The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[goose]

Been watching a bit of this guy this week...Multi-Millionaire Trader from Ilford turned Inequality Crusader, Gary Stevenson.  Wrote best seller 'The Trading Game'.

Has a theory that the economy is basically fucked, living standards for all but the super rich will continue to fall, and that it's all driven by increasing levels of inequality, and as a result the competition between the super rich and the rest for common resources (Housing, Food, Political Influence, etc) with the Super Rich consuming more and more and at greater scale and as a result there being less left for the 'serfs' (well, middle class down...all about perspective I guess).

Anyway, in this video he talks about why Elon is aligning with Trump, the pushing of anti-immigration agendas by the Super Rich and why that makes so much sense alongside the actual continuation of high levels of immigration.

Thought might be an interesting one for the WHO politico to dissect:

I've posted up his video before, I think he speaks a lot of sense. I especially enjoyed his appearance on question time recently when he made the entire panel shit themselves by claiming they were all millionaires so their kids would be okay. Fiona Bruce nearly had a stroke.

His book is a decent read too.

[stubbo]

Been watching a bit of this guy this week...Multi-Millionaire Trader from Ilford turned Inequality Crusader, Gary Stevenson.  Wrote best seller 'The Trading Game'.

Has a theory that the economy is basically fucked, living standards for all but the super rich will continue to fall, and that it's all driven by increasing levels of inequality, and as a result the competition between the super rich and the rest for common resources (Housing, Food, Political Influence, etc) with the Super Rich consuming more and more and at greater scale and as a result there being less left for the 'serfs' (well, middle class down...all about perspective I guess).

Anyway, in this video he talks about why Elon is aligning with Trump, the pushing of anti-immigration agendas by the Super Rich and why that makes so much sense alongside the actual continuation of high levels of immigration.

Thought might be an interesting one for the WHO politico to dissect:

[Mr Anon]

Semiconductors we’ve spoken about, you won’t be taking manufacturing from China or Taiwan etc etc.

Cars they already manufacture.

Ships, how many ships do you think the US builds a year? Last year it built 10 military ships and 5 commercial ships.
China built over 1,000.

And that’s all about to change silly nuts!

 

A few US cars that will sell in the UK

Ford Mustang and F150 pick up truck.
Chevy Camaro and the Silverado pick up truck, Corvette.

Dodge Ram pick up, Charger

 Cadillac Escalade, CT 5.

Tesla of course.


There’s plenty more.

so incredibly wrong, why would any buy them over superior European equivalents, only Tesla would do ok but Elon has made even that a hard sell nowdays

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Nutsin puts me in mind of The Black Knight featured in The Holy Grail.

[Hello Mrs. Jones]

Love the Goose v. Nutsin verbal match. Goose wins by a ko. 

[Nutsin]

For those that are interested. A link detailing the trade deal between US and UK.


https://www.dtnpf.com/agriculture/web/a ... ners-us-uk

[Nutsin]

You sure that’s the only way Goose?

[goose]

Oh I’m sure the US auto makers can make any adjustments necessary.

Please excuse my cynicism on your forecasts but you’ve been dead wrong on everything, what makes you think you have any credibility?


Poor Goose, just stacking up losses. We’re gonna have to rename you Potter soon.

Adjustments???  
just adjust them from left hand drive to right hand?  

you have no clue how these things are manufactured.

I’m sure they’ll figure it out Goose.

So you wanna take a car which is more expensive to make, add complexity into the manufacturing process to make it even more expensive, and then ship it across the Atlantic and make it even more expensive?

yeh that’ll work.

[Nutsin]

He talked about it post Brexit but never followed it through.
Theres a reason Tesla use Germany (location & cost). They’re not changing that and neither are you.

Not to mention the fact that American produced cars don’t meet U.K. safety standards so your essentially needing an entire new plant to make U.K. ready cars.

Oh I’m sure the US auto makers can make any adjustments necessary.

Please excuse my cynicism on your forecasts but you’ve been dead wrong on everything, what makes you think you have any credibility?


Poor Goose, just stacking up losses. We’re gonna have to rename you Potter soon.

Adjustments???  
just adjust them from left hand drive to right hand?  

you have no clue how these things are manufactured.

I’m sure they’ll figure it out Goose.

[goose]

Who knows maybe Elon will open a plant in the UK now we have our new trade agreement.
However I’d like to know how you know exactly what Tesla’s plans are for future production for the UK consumer?

Are you making shit up again?

He talked about it post Brexit but never followed it through.
Theres a reason Tesla use Germany (location & cost). They’re not changing that and neither are you.

Not to mention the fact that American produced cars don’t meet U.K. safety standards so your essentially needing an entire new plant to make U.K. ready cars.

Oh I’m sure the US auto makers can make any adjustments necessary.

Please excuse my cynicism on your forecasts but you’ve been dead wrong on everything, what makes you think you have any credibility?


Poor Goose, just stacking up losses. We’re gonna have to rename you Potter soon.

Adjustments???  
just adjust them from left hand drive to right hand?  

you have no clue how these things are manufactured.

[Nutsin]

Yup ALL the Tesla’s sold in the U.K. are manufactured in Germany and China.

Who knows maybe Elon will open a plant in the UK now we have our new trade agreement.
However I’d like to know how you know exactly what Tesla’s plans are for future production for the UK consumer?

Are you making shit up again?

He talked about it post Brexit but never followed it through.
Theres a reason Tesla use Germany (location & cost). They’re not changing that and neither are you.

Not to mention the fact that American produced cars don’t meet U.K. safety standards so your essentially needing an entire new plant to make U.K. ready cars.

Oh I’m sure the US auto makers can make any adjustments necessary.

Please excuse my cynicism on your forecasts but you’ve been dead wrong on everything, what makes you think you have any credibility?


Poor Goose, just stacking up losses. We’re gonna have to rename you Potter soon.

[goose]

Poor Goose



Tesla's vehicles are produced at factories worldwide. Here's a breakdown: 

• Austin, Texas: Currently produces the Model Y, with plans to manufacture the Cybertruck and Roadster in the future. Also Tesla's global headquarters. 

• Grünheide, Germany: Produces the Model Y. 

• Fremont, California: Produces the Model S, Model X, Model 3, and Model Y. 
• Nevada: One of the world's largest plants for electric vehicle components. 
• Shanghai, China: Produces the Model 3 and Model Y. 

Yup ALL the Tesla’s sold in the U.K. are manufactured in Germany and China.

Who knows maybe Elon will open a plant in the UK now we have our new trade agreement.
However I’d like to know how you know exactly what Tesla’s plans are for future production for the UK consumer?

Are you making shit up again?

He talked about it post Brexit but never followed it through.
Theres a reason Tesla use Germany (location & cost). They’re not changing that and neither are you.

Not to mention the fact that American produced cars don’t meet U.K. safety standards so your essentially needing an entire new plant to make U.K. ready cars.

[Nutsin]

You mean the Tesla’s that are manufactured in Germany and China?  

Poor Goose



Tesla's vehicles are produced at factories worldwide. Here's a breakdown: 

• Austin, Texas: Currently produces the Model Y, with plans to manufacture the Cybertruck and Roadster in the future. Also Tesla's global headquarters. 

• Grünheide, Germany: Produces the Model Y. 

• Fremont, California: Produces the Model S, Model X, Model 3, and Model Y. 
• Nevada: One of the world's largest plants for electric vehicle components. 
• Shanghai, China: Produces the Model 3 and Model Y. 

Yup ALL the Tesla’s sold in the U.K. are manufactured in Germany and China.

Who knows maybe Elon will open a plant in the UK now we have our new trade agreement.
However I’d like to know how you know exactly what Tesla’s plans are for future production for the UK consumer?

Are you making shit up again?

[goose]

 

A few US cars that will sell in the UK

Ford Mustang and F150 pick up truck.
Chevy Camaro and the Silverado pick up truck, Corvette.

Dodge Ram pick up, Charger

 Cadillac Escalade, CT 5.

Tesla of course.


There’s plenty more.

You mean the Tesla’s that are manufactured in Germany and China?  

Poor Goose



Tesla's vehicles are produced at factories worldwide. Here's a breakdown: 

• Austin, Texas: Currently produces the Model Y, with plans to manufacture the Cybertruck and Roadster in the future. Also Tesla's global headquarters. 

• Grünheide, Germany: Produces the Model Y. 

• Fremont, California: Produces the Model S, Model X, Model 3, and Model Y. 
• Nevada: One of the world's largest plants for electric vehicle components. 
• Shanghai, China: Produces the Model 3 and Model Y. 

Yup ALL the Tesla’s sold in the U.K. are manufactured in Germany and China.

[Nutsin]

And that’s all about to change silly nuts!

 

A few US cars that will sell in the UK

Ford Mustang and F150 pick up truck.
Chevy Camaro and the Silverado pick up truck, Corvette.

Dodge Ram pick up, Charger

 Cadillac Escalade, CT 5.

Tesla of course.


There’s plenty more.

You mean the Tesla’s that are manufactured in Germany and China?  

Poor Goose



Tesla's vehicles are produced at factories worldwide. Here's a breakdown: 

• Austin, Texas: Currently produces the Model Y, with plans to manufacture the Cybertruck and Roadster in the future. Also Tesla's global headquarters. 

• Grünheide, Germany: Produces the Model Y. 

• Fremont, California: Produces the Model S, Model X, Model 3, and Model Y. 
• Nevada: One of the world's largest plants for electric vehicle components. 
• Shanghai, China: Produces the Model 3 and Model Y. 

[goose]

Semiconductors we’ve spoken about, you won’t be taking manufacturing from China or Taiwan etc etc.

Cars they already manufacture.

Ships, how many ships do you think the US builds a year? Last year it built 10 military ships and 5 commercial ships.
China built over 1,000.

And that’s all about to change silly nuts!

 

A few US cars that will sell in the UK

Ford Mustang and F150 pick up truck.
Chevy Camaro and the Silverado pick up truck, Corvette.

Dodge Ram pick up, Charger

 Cadillac Escalade, CT 5.

Tesla of course.


There’s plenty more.

You mean the Tesla’s that are manufactured in Germany and China?  

[Nutsin]

Semiconductors we’ve spoken about, you won’t be taking manufacturing from China or Taiwan etc etc.

Cars they already manufacture.

Ships, how many ships do you think the US builds a year? Last year it built 10 military ships and 5 commercial ships.
China built over 1,000.

And that’s all about to change silly nuts!

Hahaha you don’t believe that.
Who’s buying them? Where’s the capacity?

Stop being a retard!

[Nutsin]

US Steel and Aluminum was on life support. Chips and Ships AI, auto manufacturing, Ford is booming and expanding etc:

Semiconductors we’ve spoken about, you won’t be taking manufacturing from China or Taiwan etc etc.

Cars they already manufacture.

Ships, how many ships do you think the US builds a year? Last year it built 10 military ships and 5 commercial ships.
China built over 1,000.

And that’s all about to change silly nuts!

 

 

A few US cars that will sell in the UK

Ford Mustang and F150 pick up truck.
Chevy Camaro and the Silverado pick up truck, Corvette.

Dodge Ram pick up, Charger

 Cadillac Escalade, CT 5.

Tesla of course.


There’s plenty more.

[goose]

US Steel and Aluminum was on life support. Chips and Ships AI, auto manufacturing, Ford is booming and expanding etc:

Semiconductors we’ve spoken about, you won’t be taking manufacturing from China or Taiwan etc etc.

Cars they already manufacture.

Ships, how many ships do you think the US builds a year? Last year it built 10 military ships and 5 commercial ships.
China built over 1,000.

And that’s all about to change silly nuts!

Hahaha you don’t believe that.
Who’s buying them? Where’s the capacity?

[Nutsin]

Oh so the manufacturer should make less margin? Great idea, what do you suppose happens when companies start making less profits?

which essential items will the US be manufacturing that it doesn’t currently?

US Steel and Aluminum was on life support. Chips and Ships AI, auto manufacturing, Ford is booming and expanding etc:

Semiconductors we’ve spoken about, you won’t be taking manufacturing from China or Taiwan etc etc.

Cars they already manufacture.

Ships, how many ships do you think the US builds a year? Last year it built 10 military ships and 5 commercial ships.
China built over 1,000.

And that’s all about to change silly nuts!

[goose]

“I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US”

Here you go again showing your ignorance.

manufacturing essential items and items of national security yes and others. But not everything numb nuts.

Did you ever think that with more competition prices could come down? OR manufacturers will eat some or all of the Tariffs? Might want to go out and buy some stocks  as they say better late than never. 

Poor old Goose, he’s having a nightmare!

Oh so the manufacturer should make less margin? Great idea, what do you suppose happens when companies start making less profits?

which essential items will the US be manufacturing that it doesn’t currently?

US Steel and Aluminum was on life support. Chips and Ships AI, auto manufacturing, Ford is booming and expanding etc:

Semiconductors we’ve spoken about, you won’t be taking manufacturing from China or Taiwan etc etc.

Cars they already manufacture.

Ships, how many ships do you think the US builds a year? Last year it built 10 military ships and 5 commercial ships.
China built over 1,000.

[Nutsin]

“I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US”

Here you go again showing your ignorance.

manufacturing essential items and items of national security yes and others. But not everything numb nuts.

Did you ever think that with more competition prices could come down? OR manufacturers will eat some or all of the Tariffs? Might want to go out and buy some stocks  as they say better late than never. 

Poor old Goose, he’s having a nightmare!

Oh so the manufacturer should make less margin? Great idea, what do you suppose happens when companies start making less profits?

which essential items will the US be manufacturing that it doesn’t currently?

US Steel and Aluminum was on life support. Chips and Ships AI, auto manufacturing, Ford is booming and expanding etc:

Rust belt is about to become the Gold belt.

MAGA!

[Nutsin]

Are you having some kind of mental episode here?

Theres still a 10% tariff on nearly all U.K. imports, which means they’ll cost the consumer more than they did a few months ago. Or it means people will buy less of them. Neither is a great result is it?

I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US? When is that starting?

btw which American cars do you think are going to sell over here?

“I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US”

Here you go again showing your ignorance.

manufacturing essential items and items of national security yes and others. But not everything numb nuts.

Did you ever think that with more competition prices could come down? OR manufacturers will eat some or all of the Tariffs? Might want to go out and buy some stocks  as they say better late than never. 

Poor old Goose, he’s having a nightmare!

Oh so the manufacturer should make less margin? Great idea, what do you suppose happens when companies start making less profits?

which essential items will the US be manufacturing that it doesn’t currently?

US Steel and Aluminum was on life support. Chips and Ships AI, auto manufacturing, Ford is booming and expanding etc:

[Nutsin]

Are we in the 5th set with goose and nutsin?

No, it’s game over!

[Nutsin]

Are you having some kind of mental episode here?

Theres still a 10% tariff on nearly all U.K. imports, which means they’ll cost the consumer more than they did a few months ago. Or it means people will buy less of them. Neither is a great result is it?

I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US? When is that starting?

btw which American cars do you think are going to sell over here?

Wanker do you remember when Obama said the UK would go to the back of the Queue if they votes for Brexit?

Trump put them first. No Tariffs on Steel and Aluminum.

There are lots of good US cars, you’ll see. 


MAGA!

 

If there’s so many you’ll be able to tell me a few then.

Nah, figure it out yourself!