The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Nutsin]

Trump just completed a 2 hour phone call with Putin, apparently Russia and Ukraine will now discuss a ceasefire to end the bloodshed.

War mongers won’t be happy!

[Massive Attack]

HAHA Oh the irony... 


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.expres ... k-lane/amp


This is the kind of thing I've been waiting to see happen and want to see more of, the rich and establishment having to put up the ramifications of illegal migrants plotting up in their well to do neighbourhoods. 

[Lee Trundle]

It's thriving now if you listen to the experts, instead of looking in your empty wallet, Swiss.

The UK has fastest growing economy in G7.

[Swiss.]

It appears Starmer is doing his best to get Reform elected.

Won't happen. The stupid thick old assholes who voted for Brexit in 2016 are dying out. The young generation will have us rejoin the EU.

I see Romania has headed off a right wing candidate. So what happened to the collapse of the EU you predicted. Has Turkey become a member? Is immigration under control? 

The UK economy will thrive once we leave the EU...haha 

[Lee Trundle]

It appears Starmer is doing his best to get Reform elected.

[collyrob]

Haven’t read this thread in ages. Shirley there’s nobody still supporting the 4x2’s

[Gank]

Blimey! I watched that all the way through. If I were a black man, I'd want to team up with this fella.

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

[Gank]

Joe Biden diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer.

COVID jab.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Joe Biden diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer.

[goose]

Moody's cuts America's pristine credit rating, citing rising debt - https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/mood ... 025-05-16/

 

[goose]

Food prices rose 23.6 % under Biden from 2020-2024, open the link below for all the gory details.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ ... %20Service

So as you can see Trump has some wiggle room.

Any increases on certain items at Walmart will send more people to Ralphs or Aldi or other alternatives.

The drop in the price in energy will more than compensate for any increase in select items at Walmart also.

Another thing is it’s only a small percentage of goods that are affected so not enough to bring about in major change in Fed policy, especially when you consider any increase in imports is countered by increases in Exports, which affect the Dollar Index.

So before you go getting all giddy on even more propaganda, Understand there are many benefits that come with what Trump is doing that offset and temporary spike to certain goods from China or elsewhere.

Overall don’t be surprised to see the CPI index continue to fall. Which by the way is much lower now than it was when Trump took office.

So because there was inflation under Biden we should just chose to add more by way of of tariffs?

No the CPI isn't lower, its just not growing as fast. Prices are still increasing. 
And do you think Aldi source their products from some magical land that doesn't have tariffs?
Walmart is the market leader with something like 20% of the grocery market - if they say prices are going up then prices are going up.

about a third of what they sell is sourced outside of the US, so no its not a small % of goods.

did you also notice that US manufacturing activity declined for a second month on the spin. production, employment and new all orders all contracted.
motor vehicles and parts production dropped by 1.9%,

Stop majoring in minors you small minded twit.

Are you saying that the US biggest grocery retailer saying prices are going up is a minor? Or that US manufacturing production and employment declining two months on the spin is minor?

No idea what point you are trying to make about taking the dollar off the gold standard 54 years ago.
How about using the tariffs Trump put on washing machines during his first term as an example? "America first" saw US consumers suffer over $1.5bn extra costs for both washer and dryers. The average price went up by 12%.
The tariffs expired in Feb '23 and the prices came back down by approx 13%.

[Nutsin]

Food prices rose 23.6 % under Biden from 2020-2024, open the link below for all the gory details.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ ... %20Service

So as you can see Trump has some wiggle room.

Any increases on certain items at Walmart will send more people to Ralphs or Aldi or other alternatives.

The drop in the price in energy will more than compensate for any increase in select items at Walmart also.

Another thing is it’s only a small percentage of goods that are affected so not enough to bring about in major change in Fed policy, especially when you consider any increase in imports is countered by increases in Exports, which affect the Dollar Index.

So before you go getting all giddy on even more propaganda, Understand there are many benefits that come with what Trump is doing that offset and temporary spike to certain goods from China or elsewhere.

Overall don’t be surprised to see the CPI index continue to fall. Which by the way is much lower now than it was when Trump took office.

So because there was inflation under Biden we should just chose to add more by way of of tariffs?

No the CPI isn't lower, its just not growing as fast. Prices are still increasing. 
And do you think Aldi source their products from some magical land that doesn't have tariffs?
Walmart is the market leader with something like 20% of the grocery market - if they say prices are going up then prices are going up.

about a third of what they sell is sourced outside of the US, so no its not a small % of goods.

did you also notice that US manufacturing activity declined for a second month on the spin. production, employment and new all orders all contracted.
motor vehicles and parts production dropped by 1.9%,

Stop majoring in minors you small minded twit.

CPI numbers are at 2.3% way down from the 3% they were under Biden. Feds target rate is 2%. You have to have some inflation otherwise you don’t have growth.

Inflation has come down since Trump took office, that’s a FACT.

[Nutsin]

It’s okay Nutsin, you don’t have to answer the question if you don’t like the answer.

I think Walmart are pretty well positioned to talk about prices.

Food prices rose 23.6 % under Biden from 2020-2024, open the link below for all the gory details.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ ... %20Service

So as you can see Trump has some wiggle room.

Any increases on certain items at Walmart will send more people to Ralphs or Aldi or other alternatives.

The drop in the price in energy will more than compensate for any increase in select items at Walmart also.

Another thing is it’s only a small percentage of goods that are affected so not enough to bring about in major change in Fed policy, especially when you consider any increase in imports is countered by increases in Exports, which affect the Dollar Index.

So before you go getting all giddy on even more propaganda, Understand there are many benefits that come with what Trump is doing that offset and temporary spike to certain goods from China or elsewhere.

Overall don’t be surprised to see the CPI index continue to fall. Which by the way is much lower now than it was when Trump took office.

So because there was inflation under Biden we should just chose to add more by way of of tariffs?

No the CPI isn't lower, its just not growing as fast. Prices are still increasing. 
And do you think Aldi source their products from some magical land that doesn't have tariffs?
Walmart is the market leader with something like 20% of the grocery market - if they say prices are going up then prices are going up.

about a third of what they sell is sourced outside of the US, so no its not a small % of goods.

did you also notice that US manufacturing activity declined for a second month on the spin. production, employment and new all orders all contracted.
motor vehicles and parts production dropped by 1.9%,

Stop majoring in minors you small minded twit.

[Nutsin]

It’s ok goose you don’t have to continue to remind us all that you are a victim who fell for propaganda. Hopefully next time you’ll have learned your lesson.

It’s okay Nutsin, you don’t have to answer the question if you don’t like the answer.

I think Walmart are pretty well positioned to talk about prices.

Food prices rose 23.6 % under Biden from 2020-2024, open the link below for all the gory details.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ ... %20Service

So as you can see Trump has some wiggle room.

Any increases on certain items at Walmart will send more people to Ralphs or Aldi or other alternatives.

The drop in the price in energy will more than compensate for any increase in select items at Walmart also.

Another thing is it’s only a small percentage of goods that are affected so not enough to bring about in major change in Fed policy, especially when you consider any increase in imports is countered by increases in Exports, which affect the Dollar Index.

So before you go getting all giddy on even more propaganda, Understand there are many benefits that come with what Trump is doing that offset and temporary spike to certain goods from China or elsewhere.

Overall don’t be surprised to see the CPI index continue to fall. Which by the way is much lower now than it was when Trump took office.

 

 

In 1971 President Nixon took the USA off the gold standard that caused some turmoil and uncertainty in the markets, as
iy undermined the US Dollars reserve currency status established by Bretton Woods after WW 2. In 1973 the USA and the Saudis signed an agreement ensuring every barrell of oil was to be sold in US dollars globally and profits to be invested in US Treasuries, giving birth to the Petro Dollar and helping maintain the US Dollar as the worlds reserve currency,Stabilizing the US economy. In return the Saudis would benefit by having protection from the US military as the Middle East was in chaos.
This formed the Trilogy, US with the dominant military, UK banking (Rothschild) and Saudi energy.

Trumps first order of business has been to take care of the UK and Saudi relations to ensure and strengthen the Trilogy alliance moving forward.

One problem holding China back is energy, their own production of oil accounts for approximately 20% of their current demand, They need access to as much oil as they can, especially if they want to continue to grow their economy and bring more people out of poverty. So Trumps trip to the Middle East Isn’t just a photo op. 

This trade war with China is not gonna be without cost but ultimately the benefits of resetting US and global trade will be worth it. Also expect India to come out way ahead in it all too as production moves away from China and in to India.

Still a long way to go but Trump is making the right moves to strengthen the US and its allies at the expense of China, It’s about time.

[goose]

It’s ok goose you don’t have to continue to remind us all that you are a victim who fell for propaganda. Hopefully next time you’ll have learned your lesson.

It’s okay Nutsin, you don’t have to answer the question if you don’t like the answer.

I think Walmart are pretty well positioned to talk about prices.

Food prices rose 23.6 % under Biden from 2020-2024, open the link below for all the gory details.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ ... %20Service

So as you can see Trump has some wiggle room.

Any increases on certain items at Walmart will send more people to Ralphs or Aldi or other alternatives.

The drop in the price in energy will more than compensate for any increase in select items at Walmart also.

Another thing is it’s only a small percentage of goods that are affected so not enough to bring about in major change in Fed policy, especially when you consider any increase in imports is countered by increases in Exports, which affect the Dollar Index.

So before you go getting all giddy on even more propaganda, Understand there are many benefits that come with what Trump is doing that offset and temporary spike to certain goods from China or elsewhere.

Overall don’t be surprised to see the CPI index continue to fall. Which by the way is much lower now than it was when Trump took office.

So because there was inflation under Biden we should just chose to add more by way of of tariffs?

No the CPI isn't lower, its just not growing as fast. Prices are still increasing. 
And do you think Aldi source their products from some magical land that doesn't have tariffs?
Walmart is the market leader with something like 20% of the grocery market - if they say prices are going up then prices are going up.

about a third of what they sell is sourced outside of the US, so no its not a small % of goods.

did you also notice that US manufacturing activity declined for a second month on the spin. production, employment and new all orders all contracted.
motor vehicles and parts production dropped by 1.9%,

[Nutsin]

No I mean reduction and removal of tariffs.
The only meaningful agreement is with the U.K. China is tbc.

Did you see what Walmart said about prices?

It’s ok goose you don’t have to continue to remind us all that you are a victim who fell for propaganda. Hopefully next time you’ll have learned your lesson.

It’s okay Nutsin, you don’t have to answer the question if you don’t like the answer.

I think Walmart are pretty well positioned to talk about prices.

Food prices rose 23.6 % under Biden from 2020-2024, open the link below for all the gory details.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ ... %20Service

So as you can see Trump has some wiggle room.

Any increases on certain items at Walmart will send more people to Ralphs or Aldi or other alternatives.

The drop in the price in energy will more than compensate for any increase in select items at Walmart also.

Another thing is it’s only a small percentage of goods that are affected so not enough to bring about in major change in Fed policy, especially when you consider any increase in imports is countered by increases in Exports, which affect the Dollar Index.

So before you go getting all giddy on even more propaganda, Understand there are many benefits that come with what Trump is doing that offset and temporary spike to certain goods from China or elsewhere.

Overall don’t be surprised to see the CPI index continue to fall. Which by the way is much lower now than it was when Trump took office.

[goose]

You mean trade agreements and new investments into the USA because of the threat of Tariffs.

No I mean reduction and removal of tariffs.
The only meaningful agreement is with the U.K. China is tbc.

Did you see what Walmart said about prices?

It’s ok goose you don’t have to continue to remind us all that you are a victim who fell for propaganda. Hopefully next time you’ll have learned your lesson.

It’s okay Nutsin, you don’t have to answer the question if you don’t like the answer.

I think Walmart are pretty well positioned to talk about prices.

[Nutsin]

Yeh it’s funny what the reduction & removal of tariffs will do. 

You mean trade agreements and new investments into the USA because of the threat of Tariffs.

No I mean reduction and removal of tariffs.
The only meaningful agreement is with the U.K. China is tbc.

Did you see what Walmart said about prices?

It’s ok goose you don’t have to continue to remind us all that you are a victim who fell for propaganda. Hopefully next time you’ll have learned your lesson.

[goose]

Yeh it’s funny what the reduction & removal of tariffs will do. 

You mean trade agreements and new investments into the USA because of the threat of Tariffs.

No I mean reduction and removal of tariffs.
The only meaningful agreement is with the U.K. China is tbc.

Did you see what Walmart said about prices?

[Nutsin]

Yeh it’s funny what the reduction & removal of tariffs will do. 

You mean trade agreements and new investments into the USA because of the threat of Tariffs.

[goose]

Yeh it’s funny what the reduction & removal of tariffs will do. 

[Nutsin]

I see all the doom and gloom economists who were calling for a USA recession are all either removing their forecast completely now or dramatically lowering the probability.
No surprise there, I bet most of them were buying while main st investors were selling. 

 

[only1billybonds]

Agree with every word MA. 
It seems the kids/grandkids of the 50/60's immigrants are far more radicalised than the generations that preceeded them. Joys of the Internet I guess.

I know a woman in her 70's who has had to put her husband in a care home at a cost of 7k per month.
Her and her husband worked for 50 odd years, paying thousands into a system that won't help her on account that she is a home owner yet that same system is happily spending 4.5 million quid a WEEK on people who have no legal right to be here. Said it before on here that there was a time when my pride in this country was endless. I now despise what its becoming.

[Swiss.]

Yeah, thank fuck for high quality EU produce like horsemeat used in Lasagne and burger products that were widely distributed and went undetected before consumption. Some are still feeling a horse now since that monumental scandal. 

Nothing wrong with a bit Cheval