Potter Out

[THUNDERCLINT]

Had enough of this arogrant no mark now.  

11 games, 27% win ratio and 0.66 goals per game.

Either the break clause is true or this flake quits otherwise were proper fucked.

[Massive Attack]

Yep

Liverpool in Europe, win the League.

Newcastle in Europe, win the Carabao Cup.

Only Man Utd and Spurs buck the trend with a freakishly low League position by their usual higher standards but even they both still managed to get in the Europa League Final.

We couldn't even beat an Aston Villa side at the first time of asking in the FA Cup with no other commitments. Even though they were doing fantastic in the Champions League and still in with a very good chance of qualifying again for it. They reached the Semi Final of the FA Cup as well as getting knocked out of the CL Quarters.

[goose]

 next season HAS to be better and with 9 Premier teams in Europe that gotta help us as playing in Europe midweek truly fucks most teams teams 

 

Don't buy this line for 1 second. We were told this season that without any European or domestic Cup distractions after the early FA Cup exit, we could now solely focus on our League form and for Potter to implement his ideas. Now look at us. 

As for Newcastle, they just won a Cup at long last and on the verge of qualifying yet again for a Champions League place. 

Joyo is too dumb to realise that we had no European football this season but still finished below all the teams that did play in Europe.
At the tail end of the season when we should be fresher we’ve won 1 in 10.

[goose]

Rather be dumb than an Eyetie 
Does soap still frighten you?

Thanks for admitting to everyone that you’re dumb.

Must save you a few bob not ever washing you smelly troll 

 

 

No idea, maybe ask your missus?

[Massive Attack]

 next season HAS to be better and with 9 Premier teams in Europe that gotta help us as playing in Europe midweek truly fucks most teams teams 

 

 

Don't buy this line for 1 second. We were told this season that without any European or domestic Cup distractions after the early FA Cup exit, we could now solely focus on our League form and for Potter to implement his ideas. Now look at us. 

As for Newcastle, they just won a Cup at long last and on the verge of qualifying yet again for a Champions League place. 

[XKhammer]

you ain't half dumb joyo son.

Rather be dumb than an Eyetie 
Does soap still frighten you?

Thanks for admitting to everyone that you’re dumb.

Must save you a few bob not ever washing you smelly troll 

[goose]

All the usual doom and gloom on here. No way we are going down
Yes it's been a terrible season but next season HAS to be better and with 9 Premier teams in Europe that gotta help us as playing in Europe midweek truly fucks most teams teams up.Look how well Newcastle have done this season and the Georgies where calling for Howe's head end of last season!
Lets see what comes in the tranfer window and hopefully a big clear out at well
Fact faces Potter ain't going anywhere yet 

you ain't half dumb joyo son.

Rather be dumb than an Eyetie 
Does soap still frighten you?

Thanks for admitting to everyone that you’re dumb.

[Lee Trundle]

I know you fall for pretty much everything, joyo, but it's a myth that teams suffer from being in Europe.

New research disproves football myth that playing in the UEFA Europa League impacts negatively on domestic league performance - Keele University

"Studies have shown that clubs participating in European competitions, including the Champions League and Europa League, do not suffer from a decrease in domestic league performance, and in fact, may score more goals, win more games, and accumulate more points."

We lost 20 games when we won the Conference cup
l doubt it affects Liverpool,City or Arsenal but it has definitely effected teams like Brighton,Newcastle last few seasons and Man U ,spurs and villa this season 

You might want to share your finding to those University doctors who have likely spent days and weeks researching to get their results then, joyo.

[XKhammer]

I know you fall for pretty much everything, joyo, but it's a myth that teams suffer from being in Europe.

New research disproves football myth that playing in the UEFA Europa League impacts negatively on domestic league performance - Keele University

"Studies have shown that clubs participating in European competitions, including the Champions League and Europa League, do not suffer from a decrease in domestic league performance, and in fact, may score more goals, win more games, and accumulate more points."

We lost 20 games when we won the Conference cup
l doubt it affects Liverpool,City or Arsenal but it has definitely effected teams like Brighton,Newcastle last few seasons and Man U ,spurs and villa this season 

[XKhammer]

All the usual doom and gloom on here. No way we are going down
Yes it's been a terrible season but next season HAS to be better and with 9 Premier teams in Europe that gotta help us as playing in Europe midweek truly fucks most teams teams up.Look how well Newcastle have done this season and the Georgies where calling for Howe's head end of last season!
Lets see what comes in the tranfer window and hopefully a big clear out at well
Fact faces Potter ain't going anywhere yet 

you ain't half dumb joyo son.

Rather be dumb than an Eyetie 
Does soap still frighten you?

[goose]

All the usual doom and gloom on here. No way we are going down
Yes it's been a terrible season but next season HAS to be better and with 9 Premier teams in Europe that gotta help us as playing in Europe midweek truly fucks most teams teams up.Look how well Newcastle have done this season and the Georgies where calling for Howe's head end of last season!
Lets see what comes in the tranfer window and hopefully a big clear out at well
Fact faces Potter ain't going anywhere yet 

you ain't half dumb joyo son.

[Lee Trundle]

I know you fall for pretty much everything, joyo, but it's a myth that teams suffer from being in Europe.

New research disproves football myth that playing in the UEFA Europa League impacts negatively on domestic league performance - Keele University

"Studies have shown that clubs participating in European competitions, including the Champions League and Europa League, do not suffer from a decrease in domestic league performance, and in fact, may score more goals, win more games, and accumulate more points."

[XKhammer]

All the usual doom and gloom on here. No way we are going down
Yes it's been a terrible season but next season HAS to be better and with 9 Premier teams in Europe that gotta help us as playing in Europe midweek truly fucks most teams teams up.Look how well Newcastle have done this season and the Georgies where calling for Howe's head end of last season!
Lets see what comes in the tranfer window and hopefully a big clear out at well
Fact faces Potter ain't going anywhere yet 

[Sir Alf]

My opinion ( its only that  ) is that I see the approach he is trying to implement ( controlled possession ) and actually prefer it to anything we have seen in the last 5 years albeit the Moyesball "low block and counter" system was very effective for 18 months and was for Nuno at Wolves and now at Forest.  Nuno has improved upon Moyes implementation of it, with fast more skilful midfielders and wingers, so it may remain effective for longer than Moyesball.

But, as I say, I do like what we are trying to do but its so slow and lacking intensity.  We just don't have the players across the squad in all positions for it to be very good at it from what I see albeit mostly at home.  The much maligned central midfield is still the area with most problems but for the tactics/system to really work well we will need an upgraded central forward ( like midfield speed, strength needed along with excellent touch and passing) and unfortunately another first choice goalkeeper.  Areola, makes great saves, has got traditional goalkeeping strengths but not able to use his feet ( control ) or pass short or long accurately enough. That is critical for the system to work well.  Arsenal got rid of Ramsdale for that reason so he certainly is not the answer and teams like Liverpool and Citeh paid a lot for Allison, Edison for their ability on the ball and at Villa Martinez is key to the way Villa like to control possession.  

The Potter approach has ( I think ) worked better away from home a lot better ( even games lost we were undone by very late collapses ) and that's probably because the onus is on the home side to take the game to the opposition which means we can sit with the 3 centre backs and 5 total at the back, 3 midfielders and 2 attackers and get more chances for quick transitions which is something players like Kudus and Bowen are still good at.

What is making us rightly question him most now, and has from day one tbh, is home form. We have no home form, starting selections always seems questionable to most fans, mass subs always seem to be required to try rescue games.  And, of course, the lack of points at home is always what matters most and we aint getting any.  I can see that the squad we have, for his system to work at home ( where the onus is on us to attack and take the game to the opposition), really is limited.  But he seems to have that Southgate, Moyes etc. cautiousness and always sets up home to try to minimise the risk of conceding first 60 mins. Hence, not starting with Fullkrug and some others, in order to play a 3 in midfield, to play the 5 across the back ( albeit 2 full backs that get forward a lot ).  I think the idea is probably the old coaching thinking that the opposition will tire 2nd half and like Moyes so long as we aint conceded or only 1 down, we can exploit teams by bringing on Fullkrug, and the likes of Soler etc, revert to 2 CDMs and not be so at risk of getting punished?  Only speculation but cannot think why he has not thought to reverse that thinking at home or try reversing it once by starting with the more attacking options etc?

Anyway, I just cannot see him going anywhere until we are into next season.  We are, therefore, so dependent on the transfer window and getting the profile of player Potter needs and hopefully wants. As mentioned, I like what I think is being attempted but of course not the way we execute it with the players we have.  We are simply down to desperately hoping he gets the players needed ( never a guarantee with Sullivan now back in charge of getting deals negotiated and completed) and us turning, what mostly seem to be 1 goal deficit defeats under Potter, into wins.  Most on here and many other fans are doubtful he can turn this around.   Understandable with our recruitment history and failures and what we've seen especially at home.   But we will know 10 games into next season.   If we do get the recruitment right we should improve but mid table will be as good as it gets I think.   Some Brighton fans said Potter is a "slow builder"  ( they say it was 3 seasons before results materialised ) and did question the patience of fans of bigger clubs like West Ham and whether they would tolerate several seasons of Potterball with mixed results before really seeing some improvement in results, the tactical approach working well etc.

Relegation? Its possible of course but again dependent on recruitment. If we get it wrong again its a distinct possibility.  As it stands imo there is a 50:50 chance of things improving or us sliding into a relegation fight next season. I simply do not know.  As stated, I'm not as pessimistic as many ( unlike me ) but would not be waging too much on seeing a strong turnaround next season. 

 

[THUNDERCLINT]

Surely COCK PISS will get them up for Ipswich it's his local derby.

Hope too see the first COCK PISS OUT flag this weekend, and the Pottercunt nuked on Monday.

[Massive Attack]

I'm wondering whether it could be that Potter's fallen out with more than who we are led to believe and it's not just Fullkrug and Alvarez? Dropping of Emerson sticks out as a strange one having played in a 1-1 draw at Home to Spurs, only to then be dropped to the Bench for the next 2 games barely getting a look-in. If there has been an argument maybe it could stem from the fall-out from the Brighton debacle at the end of that game? We went 2-1 up then straight after Emerson gets subbed for Coufal and we concede 2 late goals soon after before Potter's media meltdown. 

Still no word on Scarles continued absence either from a matchday squad and Potter saying there's not been anymore new injuries to report. Something doesn't look right beyond just his usual braindead tactics but difficult to tell for certain. 

[factory seconds]

Tbh I don't really expect relegation, just more of the same shit as this season.

Think I'd rather a relegation battle, at least at bit of excitement about it.

yeah, i agree here. there are absolutely no stakes this season and it's life sucking in a way that an emotionally charged relegation fight can't compete with.

[Lee Trundle]

I expect more of the same shit next season, which is why I'm worried.

The 2 teams below us are likely to finish above us next season, and the teams coming up are much stronger than the 3 going down.

We're proper shit at the moment.

[honky cat]

I wanted to give him the summer to sort things out, but the team choices lately have been fucking bizarre. He'll dither and fart about, Sullivan will step in, we might get some decent players - but without a strong manager calling the shots, where will they fit in. And repeat.

 

[Mad Ferret]

Tbh I don't really expect relegation, just more of the same shit as this season.

Think I'd rather a relegation battle, at least at bit of excitement about it.

[Fauxstralian]

Would agree with :
Alvarez Soler Paqueta over the 3 he picked
Also bizarre to have Emerson & Scarles & have neither in the squad & have to move AWB to the left
Whenever he has brought Fullkrug on we’ve looked better. 
And he ends up on the bench again

Managers making 3 or 4 changes after an hour are admitting they got the selection wrong

 

[Eerie Decent]

I don't think it's out of the question at all, Trunds. It wouldn't surprise me at all, and that's what I was thinking.

However, I just think this league is so shit at the moment, and he's one of those managers who keeps teams in games, and due to that we'll get enough rub of the green to win a few close ones that we seem to be losing. I'm not confidently predicting that, just a gut feeling more than anything else.

Whatever happens, we can all guarantee one thing, it will be bone-crushingly fucking boring, and will be played out to a LOT of empty seats.

[Lee Trundle]

I've seen a few people suggest we'll do ok/alright next season (not digging you out here, Eerie).

I'm pretty concerned about getting relegated as things stand, if I'm honest, looking at the teams coming up and looking at the 2 teams that might finish below us.

[boleyn8420]

Why would they give Potter a red cent to spend when he can't fucking manage the squad he has correctly ffs. I wouldn't trust any transfer decision he makes, to be honest, after the clusterfuck of a team selection he makes EVERY fucking game. You cannot make 4 subs at once, almost every game, and someone not question your ability to field a correct starting line up let alone let him squander millions on new players. As for example E. Ferguson. Sack him as soon as the season ends and don't continue to compound the original error by letting him carry on.

[Massive Attack]

Think it was Pardew on the radio last night that made the point that some managers make sure they just do enough so to keep their jobs. As opposed to actually trying to make a Club the very best it can be which can involve taking risks. Potter's managerial outlook reeks of self preservation tactics although he's not even good at that either. 

The whole keeping the score down by flooding the Team with defenders so we at least stay in games bollocks is a sad state of affairs for a Club who once prided itself on attacking Teams. We were never obsessing about keeping scorelines down, it was more about trying to score more than the opposition and if it meant letting in some goals to achieve that then so be it. 

[El Scorchio]

I can see a disaster in this window.

Potter and his team will identify the players they want and Sullivan will only sanction those - if any - who are contracted to his preferred agents/mates.

Last week of the window becoming an absolute stitch-up as the whole footballing world will see/know what/who we want/need and will give Sulkivan a proper old East End schooling in the art of negotiation.

Yup, that's the absolute backbreaker for Potter or any other manager. They'll get a few players we NEED but then have to shoehorn some players they didn't want or need into the team because of the owner's proclivities. 

All of them have a hand tied behind their back when trying to assemble the squad they want. There are other bad owners in this division but at least they mostly just 100% back their manager and recruitment experts to do their jobs. Sullivan has to be the worst of the lot and by a distance. (Ironically Potter was working under the other worst one playing fantasy football in his previous job, before he calmed the fuck down) Nothing more dangerous than (in football terms in this instance) an idiot who thinks they are a genius. Trouble is every other club is getting more and more savvy in recruitment and squad building. Now it's medium and smaller clubs being clever to be competitive, and we are getting left behind in brainpower as well as strategy. It's not just financial power that creates success any longer. It's talent spotting and clever thinking.

I just hope this takeover talk is genuine and amounts to something. It's the only way out of this spiral of shitness.