Shooting and Explosion at Moscow Concert Hall

[happygilmore]

Reports of 40 dead.

[goose]

yeh i reckon the videos were a bit of a giveaway.

[Hammer and Pickle]

"So the only problem with the confession is one has been beaten up too badly to speak. But the others have said it was them and there is a film of them doing it before they got messed up, so that's OK. Tell me; you clearly live in a simple little world of your own. But how do you make it through the day in ours? You clearly need care round the clock - must be tough getting that kind of service."

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

"threesixty 5:22 Tue Mar 26 Not only have the admitted it was them, they had filmed themselves doing it. They nearly did get away as they were caught near the border of Ukraine."

[BRANDED]

"Or his ear, obvs"

[Lee Trundle]

"""Why do we think that all of the people picked up are the perpetrators?"" Because 3 out of the 4 have said they did it? The other probably couldn't admit to it as he was probably swallowing his teeth."

[threesixty]

"Not been on this too much. But I just saw a photo of one of the accused. Why do we think that all of the people picked up are the perpetrators? It’s all a bit odd. You spend months planning an attack that you clearly intended to survive but can’t plan a get away? Russian authorities took 90 minutes to get to the concert hall! Apparently there was a police station or barracks 5 minutes away and none of them got there? Wtf? ISIS bods had it all on web cam apparently. So how can Ukraine be involved? Bit odd. Also knowing they are all likely to die or get tortured the fuck out of, why would all those guns you have wouldn’t you have a bit of a gun fight rather than just get captured in a bog standard hatchback near the border? How does anyone know they didn’t just pick up some random people and bring them in? None of that shit makes any sense. Maybe it did all happen like that but wow.. when they fucked up France they took ages to find these people. Russians just get them instantly. I don’t subscribe to the false flag thing. But I do think some countries take advantage of incidents or allow them to happen so they can take advantage. Given that Russia clearly gives zero fucks about how many citizens die in “defence” of their country I don’t see that 130 concert goers are not expendable either .."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Care to identify all/any of those accepting Putin's line on the incident? FYI; Extract from ""Basic English 101"": Repeating something is not proof of accepting something, anywhere. Neither is bringing a comment to the attention of others. ""Oxsaw's Corollary (for the hard of thinking): ""By WHO being able to be read by anyone, anywhere in the world does not mean that WHO IS read by everyone everywhere in the world."""

[Northern Sold]

Mike Oxsaw 11:14 Mon Mar 25 Re: Shooting and Explosion at Moscow Concert Hall I suspect that Putin will try to nail this to the Ukraine's door no matter what evidence emerges. Almost like he desperately needs it to be Ukraine's fault. Rio?? kaiser?? Putin?? Or all three of them??

[Hammer and Pickle]

"The Kremlin’s line will of course be treated as credible by most in Russia, who are too cowed or busy surviving from one day to the next to care. However, one really has to ask: what sort of species of lowlife would voluntarily debase themselves enough to accept it in the West? Is it an affective disorder and a cry for help?"

[Oh dear]

Any Norwegians owned up to this yet?

[Kaiser Zoso]

"'The US and the EU swiftly insisted that Ukraine had nothing to do with the attack’ Oh, well that’s that sorted then."

[BRANDED]

They killed over a hundred people. Difficult to get more isis than that to be fair.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

"Ukraine being behind it or party to it makes more sense than a Putin false flag operation. Russia already outnumber and outgun Ukraine. It's not like Ukraine have Russia on the back foot, conceding territory. It doesn't make sense for Ukraine to do it either though, unless they are fully prepared for an escalation from Russia and want them to take more risks. Which would be insane. One thing is for certain. Those blokes aren't proper ISIS. Just paid hands, that will pray to Allah that they can help the Russians find out exactly who ordered the attack, if the videos of their captures are anything to go by. Not to mention the tourture they have suffered since."

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

"Ukraine being behind it or party to it makes more sense than a Putin false flag operation. Russia already outnumber and outgun Ukraine. It's not like Ukraine have Russia on the back foot, conceding territory. It doesn't make sense for Ukraine to do it either though, unless they are fully prepared for an escalation from Russia and want them to take more risks. Which would be insane. One thing is for certain. Those blokes aren't proper ISIS. Just paid hands, that will pray to Allah that they can help the Russians find out exactly who ordered the attack, if the videos of their captures are anything to go by. Not to mention the tourture they have suffered since."

[riosleftsock]

"Mike Its not impossible, but the only scenario I can think of where Russia could do this, would be that they want to adopt the western military strategy in Ukraine, by deploying shock and awe type tactics. That would be counter-productive though as the country would be ungovernable afterwards (as the USA and NATO proved in Iraq, Libya etc) and the domestic population would probably be divided over this."

[Mike Oxsaw]

I suspect that Putin will try to nail this to the Ukraine's door no matter what evidence emerges. Almost like he desperately needs it to be Ukraine's fault.

[Hammer and Pickle]

?üîªso speaks the disgusting mouthpiece of a brutal psychopath dictator ?üîª

[riosleftsock]

"Forever. Loads on RT, here is their latest piece ‘Radical Islamists’ carried out Moscow terror attack – Putin The Russian president still suspects that Ukraine was complicit in the tragedy ‘Radical Islamists’ carried out Moscow terror attack – Putin A view shows the Crocus City Hall concert venue following a shooting incident and massive fire, outside Moscow, Russia. © Sputnik / Kirill Kallinikov Russia knows who carried out the Crocus City attack but is now investigating who gave the order, President Vladimir Putin said on Monday, pointing to Ukraine as being the likely culprit. “This attack was carried out by radical Islamists,” Putin said in the opening remarks at a video call with law enforcement officials. The US and its allies are now trying to cover for their proxies in Kiev, insisting that Ukraine had nothing to do with the terrorist attack and that the party responsible was Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS), the Russian president noted. “But we know who carried out the attack. We want to know who ordered it.” Russian law enforcement is currently looking into the perpetrators, who have been apprehended and brought before a judge. The investigation needs to be “professional, without any political bias,” Putin said. More than 130 people were killed at the concert venue northwest of Moscow on Friday evening, when several armed men began shooting into the crowd and set the hall on fire. A terrorist group calling itself Islamic State Khorasan (ISIS-K) has claimed responsibility. Russian security services detained four alleged perpetrators, who were driving towards Ukraine, as well as seven of their suspected accomplices. The men were identified as ethnic Tajiks. Putin noted that the fact the terrorists were headed for Ukraine posed questions that needed answering. “Who was waiting for them there? It is clear that those who support the Kiev regime do not want to be accomplices and sponsors of terrorism. But a lot of questions remain,” he said. The US and the EU swiftly insisted that Ukraine had nothing to do with the attack and that IS – a shadowy group allegedly operating in Afghanistan and Central Asia – was the sole culprit."

[ForeverHammers]

Putin seems unusually quiet post this attack in comparison to some in Russia.

[Side of Ham]

We started kicking back when Brexit happened....we can now directly put all our attention on BOTH the useless parties now.....

[Lee Trundle]

"I knew you'd be absolutely GUTTED about that, Hamas & Pickled. Thanks for confirming."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"The real world is a global system whether you like it or not, Twundle. Talking bollocks about ‚Äúpushing back‚Äù or ‚Äúmaking your own‚Äù laws isn‚Äôt going to help you deal with it any better even if the populist Chega party won 12 more seats in the recent Portuguese general election. If you‚Äôre a useless cսnt, and that is almost certainly what you are, you will just elect the cynical type of political abuse who will make use of you."

[Lee Trundle]

"stewie griffin 1:46 Mon Mar 25 Portugal's recent legislative elections went the same way. Thankfully, it looks like people are pushing back."

[zico]

Heard last night that it took Russian police 90 minutes to attend the scene despite having a station just a few miles up the road. That true? Sounds rather odd.

[bruuuno]

Excellent posts stewie and branded