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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
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Nutsin wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 19:31goose wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 18:59Nutsin wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 18:57I think you’ll find borrowing costs went way
up under Biden. Not sure anyone has ever said Trump has a magic wand and can fix all Joe’s fuck ups over night.
I think you’ll find wage increases and lower taxes will more than compensate for a minimal increase on the items we get from China, Remember now it was only a week ago when you were laughing that Apple were building their I phones in India and not the USA, falsely calling out Trump for saying they were gonna be built in the USA.
Looks like you were wrong about that as well!
Dumb guy!“I have long ago informed Tim Cook of Apple that I expect their iPhones that will be sold in the United States of America will be manufactured and built in the United States, not India, or anyplace else.”
who’s wrong about what now?You were laughing because you were saying that apple were no gonna be making I phones in the USA after they announced the India production.
basically Mocking Trump for stating that they were NOT gonna be made in the USA.
Looks like you were wrong, Trump has told them build them in the USA or be Tariffed.
Let’s see if Apple defies Trump…. I have a funny feeling that not only will Apple build them in the USA but they will build them and Apple will eat the additional cost.
suffice to say, Trump is insisting they do what’s right for the US consumer, How much money do they need before they give something back? They will after all benefit from the tax cuts in Trumps big beautiful.
Well played the Donald!
If you think they’ll be manufacturing iPhones in the USA, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
Estimates are between $3,000 to $3,500 to manufacture an iPhone in the USA
Estimates are between $3,000 to $3,500 to manufacture an iPhone in the USA
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 18:59Nutsin wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 18:57goose wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 18:50Have borrowing costs gone up or down since Trump took office? His tariffs and their impact have made it impossible for the FED to drop rates. That is on Trump. Lucky TACOotherwise we’d be calling him Donald Truss.
as for inflation, I’ve already pointed out to you that it went up month on month, and that manufacturing input costs are going up.
aside from that, your biggest retailers are telling you prices will go up. You just wait until those American made iPhones hit the shops![]()
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I think you’ll find borrowing costs went way
up under Biden. Not sure anyone has ever said Trump has a magic wand and can fix all Joe’s fuck ups over night.
I think you’ll find wage increases and lower taxes will more than compensate for a minimal increase on the items we get from China, Remember now it was only a week ago when you were laughing that Apple were building their I phones in India and not the USA, falsely calling out Trump for saying they were gonna be built in the USA.
Looks like you were wrong about that as well!
Dumb guy!“I have long ago informed Tim Cook of Apple that I expect their iPhones that will be sold in the United States of America will be manufactured and built in the United States, not India, or anyplace else.”
who’s wrong about what now?
You were laughing because you were saying that apple were no gonna be making I phones in the USA after they announced the India production.
basically Mocking Trump for stating that they were NOT gonna be made in the USA.
Looks like you were wrong, Trump has told them build them in the USA or be Tariffed.
Let’s see if Apple defies Trump…. I have a funny feeling that not only will Apple build them in the USA but they will build them and Apple will eat the additional cost.
suffice to say, Trump is insisting they do what’s right for the US consumer, How much money do they need before they give something back? They will after all benefit from the tax cuts in Trumps big beautiful.
Well played the Donald!
basically Mocking Trump for stating that they were NOT gonna be made in the USA.
Looks like you were wrong, Trump has told them build them in the USA or be Tariffed.
Let’s see if Apple defies Trump…. I have a funny feeling that not only will Apple build them in the USA but they will build them and Apple will eat the additional cost.
suffice to say, Trump is insisting they do what’s right for the US consumer, How much money do they need before they give something back? They will after all benefit from the tax cuts in Trumps big beautiful.
Well played the Donald!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 18:57goose wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 18:50Nutsin wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 18:37Taco isn’t a silly liberal sound bite?
As for the national debt, not sure how that is all Trumps fault.
As for interest rates being up, if you had half a brain you’d know they were up while Biden was in office due to Biden’s inflation problem, Raised by the Fed to counter inflation, It is the Fed who sets monetary policy and Trump has been telling Powell to lower rates for months.
So yes it is another ridiculous liberal sound bite when it was Biden who put us here.
Funny how you’ve stopped talking all that bollocks about inflation all of a sudden. You starting to realize that you are a simpleton yet?
Again showing just how dumb you are.Have borrowing costs gone up or down since Trump took office? His tariffs and their impact have made it impossible for the FED to drop rates. That is on Trump. Lucky TACOotherwise we’d be calling him Donald Truss.
as for inflation, I’ve already pointed out to you that it went up month on month, and that manufacturing input costs are going up.
aside from that, your biggest retailers are telling you prices will go up. You just wait until those American made iPhones hit the shops![]()
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I think you’ll find borrowing costs went way
up under Biden. Not sure anyone has ever said Trump has a magic wand and can fix all Joe’s fuck ups over night.
I think you’ll find wage increases and lower taxes will more than compensate for a minimal increase on the items we get from China, Remember now it was only a week ago when you were laughing that Apple were building their I phones in India and not the USA, falsely calling out Trump for saying they were gonna be built in the USA.
Looks like you were wrong about that as well!
Dumb guy!
“I have long ago informed Tim Cook of Apple that I expect their iPhones that will be sold in the United States of America will be manufactured and built in the United States, not India, or anyplace else.”
who’s wrong about what now?
who’s wrong about what now?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 18:50Nutsin wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 18:37Taco isn’t a silly liberal sound bite?
As for the national debt, not sure how that is all Trumps fault.
As for interest rates being up, if you had half a brain you’d know they were up while Biden was in office due to Biden’s inflation problem, Raised by the Fed to counter inflation, It is the Fed who sets monetary policy and Trump has been telling Powell to lower rates for months.
So yes it is another ridiculous liberal sound bite when it was Biden who put us here.
Funny how you’ve stopped talking all that bollocks about inflation all of a sudden. You starting to realize that you are a simpleton yet?
Again showing just how dumb you are.Have borrowing costs gone up or down since Trump took office? His tariffs and their impact have made it impossible for the FED to drop rates. That is on Trump. Lucky TACOotherwise we’d be calling him Donald Truss.
as for inflation, I’ve already pointed out to you that it went up month on month, and that manufacturing input costs are going up.
aside from that, your biggest retailers are telling you prices will go up. You just wait until those American made iPhones hit the shops![]()
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I think you’ll find borrowing costs went way
up under Biden. Not sure anyone has ever said Trump has a magic wand and can fix all Joe’s fuck ups over night.
I think you’ll find wage increases and lower taxes will more than compensate for a minimal increase on the items we get from China, Remember now it was only a week ago when you were laughing that Apple were building their I phones in India and not the USA, falsely calling out Trump for saying they were gonna be built in the USA.
Looks like you were wrong about that as well!
Dumb guy!
up under Biden. Not sure anyone has ever said Trump has a magic wand and can fix all Joe’s fuck ups over night.
I think you’ll find wage increases and lower taxes will more than compensate for a minimal increase on the items we get from China, Remember now it was only a week ago when you were laughing that Apple were building their I phones in India and not the USA, falsely calling out Trump for saying they were gonna be built in the USA.
Looks like you were wrong about that as well!
Dumb guy!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 18:37goose wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 18:28Nutsin wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 17:55And you sound like you have no clue what you are talking about z How many more times do you have to be proven wrong before the penny drops ffs!
Talk about stuck on stupid.
We’ll keep taking on the hard issues, the ones that Biden was too stupid to do anything about and you continue to make yourself look the ignorant cսnt that you are.
All you do is repeat idiotic liberal soundbites you get from the left wing propagandist news outlets that have been proven time and time again to be full of shit.
One of these days you’ll catch a clue although I wouldn’t put money on it!
Admit it, you’re a bit dumb.Your national debt is a liberal sound bite is it?![]()
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Or the government prepared manufacturing numbers?![]()
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those bloody ‘liberal’ facts keep tripping you up don’t they?Taco isn’t a silly liberal sound bite?
As for the national debt, not sure how that is all Trumps fault.
As for interest rates being up, if you had half a brain you’d know they were up while Biden was in office due to Biden’s inflation problem, Raised by the Fed to counter inflation, It is the Fed who sets monetary policy and Trump has been telling Powell to lower rates for months.
So yes it is another ridiculous liberal sound bite when it was Biden who put us here.
Funny how you’ve stopped talking all that bollocks about inflation all of a sudden. You starting to realize that you are a simpleton yet?
Again showing just how dumb you are.
Have borrowing costs gone up or down since Trump took office? His tariffs and their impact have made it impossible for the FED to drop rates. That is on Trump. Lucky TACO
otherwise we’d be calling him Donald Truss.
as for inflation, I’ve already pointed out to you that it went up month on month, and that manufacturing input costs are going up.
aside from that, your biggest retailers are telling you prices will go up. You just wait until those American made iPhones hit the shops
as for inflation, I’ve already pointed out to you that it went up month on month, and that manufacturing input costs are going up.
aside from that, your biggest retailers are telling you prices will go up. You just wait until those American made iPhones hit the shops
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 18:28Nutsin wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 17:55goose wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 17:37You sound like you’re going to cry about China.
Your gigantic national debt isn’t a blip, neither is it growing by 8%. Trump is making a bad problem worse.
as for the rest, I pointed out below that your manufacturing input costs are going up while output is slowing off and jobs are being lost.
TACO
And you sound like you have no clue what you are talking about z How many more times do you have to be proven wrong before the penny drops ffs!
Talk about stuck on stupid.
We’ll keep taking on the hard issues, the ones that Biden was too stupid to do anything about and you continue to make yourself look the ignorant cսnt that you are.
All you do is repeat idiotic liberal soundbites you get from the left wing propagandist news outlets that have been proven time and time again to be full of shit.
One of these days you’ll catch a clue although I wouldn’t put money on it!
Admit it, you’re a bit dumb.Your national debt is a liberal sound bite is it?![]()
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Or the government prepared manufacturing numbers?![]()
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those bloody ‘liberal’ facts keep tripping you up don’t they?
Taco isn’t a silly liberal sound bite?
As for the national debt, not sure how that is all Trumps fault.
As for interest rates being up, if you had half a brain you’d know they were up while Biden was in office due to Biden’s inflation problem, Raised by the Fed to counter inflation, It is the Fed who sets monetary policy and Trump has been telling Powell to lower rates for months.
So yes it is another ridiculous liberal sound bite when it was Biden who put us here.
Funny how you’ve stopped talking all that bollocks about inflation all of a sudden. You starting to realize that you are a simpleton yet?
Again showing just how dumb you are.
As for the national debt, not sure how that is all Trumps fault.
As for interest rates being up, if you had half a brain you’d know they were up while Biden was in office due to Biden’s inflation problem, Raised by the Fed to counter inflation, It is the Fed who sets monetary policy and Trump has been telling Powell to lower rates for months.
So yes it is another ridiculous liberal sound bite when it was Biden who put us here.
Funny how you’ve stopped talking all that bollocks about inflation all of a sudden. You starting to realize that you are a simpleton yet?
Again showing just how dumb you are.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 17:55goose wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 17:37Nutsin wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 17:25Nobody said that taking on China wouldn’t have a cost but in the long run it will pay big dividends which includes protecting and increasing US Jobs, wage growth, reduction in trade deficits, a reduction in Fetanyl killing Americans and fair trade, which includes China stops its dumping practice and currency manipulation.
Also removing supply chains from China on matters
of National security. And the reigning in on China’s abuses on Intellectual property, something they’ve been taking the piss on for years. It’s about time someone stood up to these cunts, especially when they are building out their military and expanding their influence globally, I know I don’t want my kids to live in a world where China is the worlds super power.
So fuck you and your silly little comments about minor blips that will show up in the data. At the end of the day we wi come out ahead and Trumps Tariffs will bear fruit.
Still no signs of stagflation are there?
One of these days you’ll be right about something. In the meantime I’ll sit back and watch as the US taxpayer continues to tally the wins!
MAGA!
You sound like you’re going to cry about China.
Your gigantic national debt isn’t a blip, neither is it growing by 8%. Trump is making a bad problem worse.
as for the rest, I pointed out below that your manufacturing input costs are going up while output is slowing off and jobs are being lost.
TACO
And you sound like you have no clue what you are talking about z How many more times do you have to be proven wrong before the penny drops ffs!
Talk about stuck on stupid.
We’ll keep taking on the hard issues, the ones that Biden was too stupid to do anything about and you continue to make yourself look the ignorant cսnt that you are.
All you do is repeat idiotic liberal soundbites you get from the left wing propagandist news outlets that have been proven time and time again to be full of shit.
One of these days you’ll catch a clue although I wouldn’t put money on it!
Admit it, you’re a bit dumb.
Your national debt is a liberal sound bite is it?
Or the government prepared manufacturing numbers?
those bloody ‘liberal’ facts keep tripping you up don’t they?
Or the government prepared manufacturing numbers?
those bloody ‘liberal’ facts keep tripping you up don’t they?
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goose wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 17:37Nutsin wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 17:25Nobody said that taking on China wouldn’t have a cost but in the long run it will pay big dividends which includes protecting and increasing US Jobs, wage growth, reduction in trade deficits, a reduction in Fetanyl killing Americans and fair trade, which includes China stops its dumping practice and currency manipulation.
Also removing supply chains from China on matters
of National security. And the reigning in on China’s abuses on Intellectual property, something they’ve been taking the piss on for years. It’s about time someone stood up to these cunts, especially when they are building out their military and expanding their influence globally, I know I don’t want my kids to live in a world where China is the worlds super power.
So fuck you and your silly little comments about minor blips that will show up in the data. At the end of the day we wi come out ahead and Trumps Tariffs will bear fruit.
Still no signs of stagflation are there?
One of these days you’ll be right about something. In the meantime I’ll sit back and watch as the US taxpayer continues to tally the wins!
MAGA!
You sound like you’re going to cry about China.
Your gigantic national debt isn’t a blip, neither is it growing by 8%. Trump is making a bad problem worse.
as for the rest, I pointed out below that your manufacturing input costs are going up while output is slowing off and jobs are being lost.
TACO![]()
And you sound like you have no clue what you are talking about z How many more times do you have to be proven wrong before the penny drops ffs!
Talk about stuck on stupid.
We’ll keep taking on the hard issues, the ones that Biden was too stupid to do anything about and you continue to make yourself look the ignorant cսnt that you are.
All you do is repeat idiotic liberal soundbites you get from the left wing propagandist news outlets that have been proven time and time again to be full of shit.
One of these days you’ll catch a clue although I wouldn’t put money on it!
Admit it, you’re a bit dumb.
Talk about stuck on stupid.
We’ll keep taking on the hard issues, the ones that Biden was too stupid to do anything about and you continue to make yourself look the ignorant cսnt that you are.
All you do is repeat idiotic liberal soundbites you get from the left wing propagandist news outlets that have been proven time and time again to be full of shit.
One of these days you’ll catch a clue although I wouldn’t put money on it!
Admit it, you’re a bit dumb.
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This CNBC's Santelli sure was praising Trump over the numbers..
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Nutsin wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 17:25Nobody said that taking on China wouldn’t have a cost but in the long run it will pay big dividends which includes protecting and increasing US Jobs, wage growth, reduction in trade deficits, a reduction in Fetanyl killing Americans and fair trade, which includes China stops its dumping practice and currency manipulation.
Also removing supply chains from China on matters
of National security. And the reigning in on China’s abuses on Intellectual property, something they’ve been taking the piss on for years. It’s about time someone stood up to these cunts, especially when they are building out their military and expanding their influence globally, I know I don’t want my kids to live in a world where China is the worlds super power.
So fuck you and your silly little comments about minor blips that will show up in the data. At the end of the day we wi come out ahead and Trumps Tariffs will bear fruit.
Still no signs of stagflation are there?
One of these days you’ll be right about something. In the meantime I’ll sit back and watch as the US taxpayer continues to tally the wins!
MAGA!
You sound like you’re going to cry about China.
Your gigantic national debt isn’t a blip, neither is it growing by 8%. Trump is making a bad problem worse.
as for the rest, I pointed out below that your manufacturing input costs are going up while output is slowing off and jobs are being lost.
TACO
Your gigantic national debt isn’t a blip, neither is it growing by 8%. Trump is making a bad problem worse.
as for the rest, I pointed out below that your manufacturing input costs are going up while output is slowing off and jobs are being lost.
TACO
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Nobody said that taking on China wouldn’t have a cost but in the long run it will pay big dividends which includes protecting and increasing US Jobs, wage growth, reduction in trade deficits, a reduction in Fetanyl killing Americans and fair trade, which includes China stops its dumping practice and currency manipulation.
Also removing supply chains from China on matters
of National security. And the reigning in on China’s abuses on Intellectual property, something they’ve been taking the piss on for years. It’s about time someone stood up to these cunts, especially when they are building out their military and expanding their influence globally, I know I don’t want my kids to live in a world where China is the worlds super power.
So fuck you and your silly little comments about minor blips that will show up in the data. At the end of the day we wi come out ahead and Trumps Tariffs will bear fruit.
Still no signs of stagflation are there?
One of these days you’ll be right about something. In the meantime I’ll sit back and watch as the US taxpayer continues to tally the wins!
MAGA!
Also removing supply chains from China on matters
of National security. And the reigning in on China’s abuses on Intellectual property, something they’ve been taking the piss on for years. It’s about time someone stood up to these cunts, especially when they are building out their military and expanding their influence globally, I know I don’t want my kids to live in a world where China is the worlds super power.
So fuck you and your silly little comments about minor blips that will show up in the data. At the end of the day we wi come out ahead and Trumps Tariffs will bear fruit.
Still no signs of stagflation are there?
One of these days you’ll be right about something. In the meantime I’ll sit back and watch as the US taxpayer continues to tally the wins!
MAGA!
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$23bn of cost put into consumer goods? Yeh two thumbs up.
meanwhile the interest on your national debt is $952bn annually up 8% year on year. In part fuelled by the growth in borrowing costs triggered by tariffs. Enjoy paying that son.
meanwhile the interest on your national debt is $952bn annually up 8% year on year. In part fuelled by the growth in borrowing costs triggered by tariffs. Enjoy paying that son.
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What is the alternate response to Trump's policies? Comedic Memes? Tax wealth creators to pay for an illegal underclass? Spend regardless and leave the mess for our children to deal with? Let China and the rest of the word take the piss unabated?
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Month of May brought in a record $23 billion in Tariffs.
Tacoing pays!
Poor Goose so desperate for a win!
Oh and my 401k is doing pretty well now fuck you very much!
Tacoing pays!
Poor Goose so desperate for a win!
Oh and my 401k is doing pretty well now fuck you very much!
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Congrats for making steel more expensive
consumer spending was at 0.2%
inflation increased month on month
input manufacturing costs have gone up
manufacturing output and jobs have declined
all the while your national debt grows & grows, and Trump wants to increase it
consumer spending was at 0.2%
inflation increased month on month
input manufacturing costs have gone up
manufacturing output and jobs have declined
all the while your national debt grows & grows, and Trump wants to increase it
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At a rally in Pittsburgh Trump announced the $14 Billion Nippon deal with US Steel. It secures over 100k jobs in the rust belt. He announced that any imported steel will be subject to a 50% Tariff, an increase of 25% of current levels. Basically pricing out foreign steel. Another big win for the US worker.
Rick Santelli was pretty excited this morning on MSNBC when going over the latest economic numbers. Wage growth was a big surprise to the upside while inflation is almost at the Feds 2% target rate. A lot lower than what it was under Biden.
Strong job market, inflation in check stock market up not a bad start.
the Stagflationists have all gone quiet.
MAGA!
Rick Santelli was pretty excited this morning on MSNBC when going over the latest economic numbers. Wage growth was a big surprise to the upside while inflation is almost at the Feds 2% target rate. A lot lower than what it was under Biden.
Strong job market, inflation in check stock market up not a bad start.
the Stagflationists have all gone quiet.
MAGA!
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Sales will vary to the circumstances. Taxes will play a factor in any business decisions. Taxes always make things more expensive but ultimately taxes go somewhere. Its where they go that ultimately matters.
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Trump's tariff tally: $34 billion and counting, global companies say -
https://www.reuters.com/business/trumps ... 025-05-29/
President Donald Trump's trade war has cost companies more than $34 billion in lost sales and higher costs, according to a Reuters analysis of corporate disclosures, a toll that is expected to rise as ongoing uncertainty over tariffs paralyzes decision making at some of the world's largest companies.
https://www.reuters.com/business/trumps ... 025-05-29/
President Donald Trump's trade war has cost companies more than $34 billion in lost sales and higher costs, according to a Reuters analysis of corporate disclosures, a toll that is expected to rise as ongoing uncertainty over tariffs paralyzes decision making at some of the world's largest companies.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8xgdj9kyero
What a fucking mess.
Elon has fucked him off as well.
“during a White House event earlier held before the ruling was published, Trump was asked about a nickname given to him by some critics on Wall Street: Taco - which stands for "Trump always chickens out".
Since returning to office for a second time, Trump has repeatedly changed his stance on tariffs - for instance, rates on China have been slashed from 145% to 30%. Trump said "it's called negotiation" when asked about his changing stance on tariff rates, and accused a reporter of asking a "nasty question".”
TACO
What a fucking mess.
Elon has fucked him off as well.
“during a White House event earlier held before the ruling was published, Trump was asked about a nickname given to him by some critics on Wall Street: Taco - which stands for "Trump always chickens out".
Since returning to office for a second time, Trump has repeatedly changed his stance on tariffs - for instance, rates on China have been slashed from 145% to 30%. Trump said "it's called negotiation" when asked about his changing stance on tariff rates, and accused a reporter of asking a "nasty question".”
TACO
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The Macron maggot is the sort of geezer that wears LIFTERS in his CUBANS
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It's Macron trying to immediately style out the assault by waving to the watching worlds press and well wishers like he's about to host Strike it Rich at the top of the stairs that gets me everytime I see it. 
Domestic violence is just a joke apparently..
Domestic violence is just a joke apparently..
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