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England v Brazil
- Mex Martillo
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England v Brazil
Hope Paqueta slaughters you in the 2nd half Will accept Bowen coming on to save the day.
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"Bowen having a decent game but massively disadvantaged by not having a proper right back with any attacking intent behind him to support, just Konsa and then Gomes, both out of position centre halves"
- Hammer and Pickle
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This game certainly point out England's weaknesses. Got some great midfield and attacking talent but arguably the weakest England defensive options for many years. Billy Bonds would get a hundred caps as a centre half in this era.
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"Bloody Pickford with his “ look at me, see how far I can kick it” cost us there, Pep or Klopp would not touch him with a barge pole, the man’s brain dead when it comes to keeping possession and playing out from the back."
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See waistcoat still picks Chilwell after that nightmare performance against Brazil . we'll never win anything under this tosser.
- Takashi Miike
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"I agree, declan and paqueta ahead of downes would have been perfect but the jock minge has show again this season that soucek is the first name on the teamsheet, and he'll even put our best player out wide to accommodate him"
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"Actually, looking at it, apart from the most recent games Jorginho doesn't often start and Rice has played the holding midfielder behind Odegaard and Havertz or Trossard."
Re: England v Brazil
"Manuel, Arsenal tend to have Jorginho as the holding midfielder, Odegaard as the no 10 and Rice as a box to box."
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"""What a shame we couldn't play him to his potential and Moyes had his handbrake on."" Pretty sure that at the time most us felt that Moyes should have actually put more of a handbrake on him in his final year here. We were better as a team when Rice played as a holding midfielder and noticeably worse when Moyes allowed him to go on his fruitless forays forward while the hapless Soucek stayed back. Obviously if Moyes had given Downes a chance or we'd had Alvarez or any other proper DM back then we'd have wanted Rice to play more box to box, but we didn't."
- Manuel
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"I haven't watched a great deal of Arsenal, like most of us I suppose, but when I have I haven't seen him going forward that much, just more of the usual short passing. Does ''advanced role'' really mean he's hurting defenders? Can't say I've seen it. This is what Keane and Souness have labelled against him and I'd tend to agree, but in fairness to Rice he's never proclaimed to be an advanced midfielder, although I'm sure he would like to be, I know he models his game on Yaya Toure. I thought Odegaard went forward and Rice was more the sitter? Rice is first and foremost at best a CM, some would say a DM, compare him to say Bellingham going forward and there is no comparison, Bellers is in a different league to Rice talent wise."
- Lee Trundle
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"Of course he's playing a more advanced role. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13092763/declan-rice-arsenals-all-rounder-assessed-by-jamie-carragher-and-ian-wright-on-monday-night-football First line in that details analysis, ""Declan Rice has been deployed in a more advanced role for Arsenal.."" But you're right about things being hysterical. All this because I said I yearned to see him in this position for us."
- Manuel
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"When I've seen Rice play for Arsenal he has hasn't looked any more advanced at all, if anything more deep tapping the ball sideways and backwards. We got over 100 mil for him, so assume he must have looked OK under Moyes. It's all very hysterical on here and Rice is only captain as Walker is injured.."
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- Lee Trundle
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"The MEDIA have been stroking themselves all season over him playing a more advanced role. I think he's a better player there, also."
- Lee Trundle
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Did I say that then? We never really saw him play to his potential because of the manager we had in charge. That was my point.
- Lee Trundle
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Rice named as captain for the game against Belgium. What a shame we couldn't play him to his potential and Moyes had his handbrake on.