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There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.
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goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 21:04
Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 21:00
goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:53
Brilliant.

a democratically elected house has a democratic vote.

i thought it was a 3rd world country?
But Groomer, I thought there was no Gov’t cover up?
You think having a public debate followed by a democratic vote which is widely reported is a cover up?
Yes groomer, I think Starmers reluctance to prosecute is. And yes can’t think why they wouldn’t want a full on inquiry in light of the police cover ups. What are they worried about? Get it all out there the public has a right to now.

So we can now agree that you DON’T know how many rape victims there are/were.
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Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 21:00
goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:53
Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:52 Here you go groomer, here’s another article.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyvy4q82l9o.amp
Brilliant.

a democratically elected house has a democratic vote.

i thought it was a 3rd world country?
But Groomer, I thought there was no Gov’t cover up?
You think having a public debate followed by a democratic vote which is widely reported is a cover up?
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goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:53
Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:52 Here you go groomer, here’s another article.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyvy4q82l9o.amp
Brilliant.

a democratically elected house has a democratic vote.

i thought it was a 3rd world country?
But Groomer, I thought there was no Gov’t cover up?
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Trump has brought in the National guard to keep Antifa and the left wing disruptors in check.

He has stated that people can peacefully protest but any rioting and criminal damage and they will get hit with the full force of the law. Also protestors are no longer allowed to wear masks. That’ll stop some and make it easier to identify the criminals.


More common sense from the Donald!

Well done there!
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Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:52 Here you go groomer, here’s another article.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyvy4q82l9o.amp
Brilliant.

a democratically elected house has a democratic vote.

i thought it was a 3rd world country?
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Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:50
goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:47
Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:40 Here’s an article on Starmer and his failings on prosecuting the grooming gangs ffs.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgn2wvxx5qo.amp
You’ve not read the article have you? 
It’s hardly what you’d call transparency is it?

Ill
repeat
my question how do you know how many grooming gangs rape cases there are considering the lack of transparency the lack of prosecutions, police cover ups etc: 

Answer the fucking question you groomer!
 
 
Police cover up? I thought they were government cover ups?

You posted an article blaming Starmer but the article actually defends his record of prosecuting them.
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Here you go groomer, here’s another article.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyvy4q82l9o.amp
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goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:47
Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:40 Here’s an article on Starmer and his failings on prosecuting the grooming gangs ffs.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgn2wvxx5qo.amp
You’ve not read the article have you? 
It’s hardly what you’d call transparency is it?

Ill
repeat
my question how do you know how many grooming gangs rape cases there are considering the lack of transparency the lack of prosecutions, police cover ups etc: 

Answer the fucking question you groomer!
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Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:40 Here’s an article on Starmer and his failings on prosecuting the grooming gangs ffs.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgn2wvxx5qo.amp
You’ve not read the article have you? 
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Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:43
goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:39
Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:31
Yeah that’s why the British Gov’t banned Tommy Robinson tell all documentary then threw him jail for airing it. Sure no cover ups here. 

Even the liberal networks have reported the police cover ups in  Rochdale for example, are you really that uninformed?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-man ... 967919.amp
I think you might need to learn the difference between a police cover up and a GOVERNMENT one.

like I said, absolutely clueless. You just blunder from one inaccuracy to another. It’s laughable.
And there’s
more silly nuts! 
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... gangs-pmqs

What were you saying about GOVERNMENT? 

Such a retard!
I’ve said it before, but you cannot be this stupid, it’s not possible surely??

not having a public enquiry is not covering up crimes. The people who committed those crimes are behind bars. Starmer was in some way responsible for prosecuting them.
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goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:39
Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:31
goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:25
 
Which reported crimes are being hidden? Why do you keep making this shit up?
The government haven’t hidden anything.

what’s also undeniable is that the culprits were British citizens.

Is your solution to deport all Muslims?
Yeah that’s why the British Gov’t banned Tommy Robinson tell all documentary then threw him jail for airing it. Sure no cover ups here. 

Even the liberal networks have reported the police cover ups in  Rochdale for example, are you really that uninformed?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-man ... 967919.amp
I think you might need to learn the difference between a police cover up and a GOVERNMENT one.

like I said, absolutely clueless. You just blunder from one inaccuracy to another. It’s laughable.
And there’s
more silly nuts! 
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... gangs-pmqs

What were you saying about GOVERNMENT? 

Such a retard!
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Here’s an article on Starmer and his failings on prosecuting the grooming gangs ffs.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgn2wvxx5qo.amp
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Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:31
goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:25
Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:18
 
How do you know the numbers of rape victims your Gov’t hides them from you. 

But what is u deniable is the culprits of the grooming gangs  are Muslim. 

There was no such thing as a grooming gang when I lived there. Fucking let the 3rd world in and you become 3rd world.
 
Which reported crimes are being hidden? Why do you keep making this shit up?
The government haven’t hidden anything.

what’s also undeniable is that the culprits were British citizens.

Is your solution to deport all Muslims?
Yeah that’s why the British Gov’t banned Tommy Robinson tell all documentary then threw him jail for airing it. Sure no cover ups here. 

Even the liberal networks have reported the police cover ups in  Rochdale for example, are you really that uninformed?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-man ... 967919.amp
I think you might need to learn the difference between a police cover up and a GOVERNMENT one.

like I said, absolutely clueless. You just blunder from one inaccuracy to another. It’s laughable.

TRs ‘documentary’ is widely available to watch, I’ve seen it. Nobody has banned anything. Not like you to get details completely wrong again.
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Here you go 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/grooming-gan ... 00347.html

How many more times do I have to prove you wrong for you to understand. I’m starting to think you’re in a grooming gang ffs. 

Unbelievable how hard you are trying to paint a false narrative. 
Nobody is that pig ignorant.


 
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goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:25
Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:18
goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:11
None of the places you listed are in the top 5 in the U.K. 
Globally they’re a million miles off the worst.
There are some cities in the US with higher sex crime rates than Bradford.


you’re utterly clueless on this.
 
How do you know the numbers of rape victims your Gov’t hides them from you. 

But what is u deniable is the culprits of the grooming gangs  are Muslim. 

There was no such thing as a grooming gang when I lived there. Fucking let the 3rd world in and you become 3rd world.
 
Which reported crimes are being hidden? Why do you keep making this shit up?
The government haven’t hidden anything.

what’s also undeniable is that the culprits were British citizens.

Is your solution to deport all Muslims?
Yeah that’s why the British Gov’t banned Tommy Robinson tell all documentary then threw him jail for airing it. Sure no cover ups here. 

Even the liberal networks have reported the police cover ups in  Rochdale for example, are you really that uninformed?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-man ... 967919.amp
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Raping kids and mistreating and abusing women is Imbeded in their religion and in their culture.

Save the kids, why is that so hard to understand ffs.

Stop with all the excuses. Make sure they all understand you fuck with the kids you and your family are out. No excuses!
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Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:18
goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:11
Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:03
Here is 1 metric rape and grooming gangs! Wtf are you talking about.
None of the places you listed are in the top 5 in the U.K. 
Globally they’re a million miles off the worst.
There are some cities in the US with higher sex crime rates than Bradford.


you’re utterly clueless on this.
 
How do you know the numbers of rape victims your Gov’t hides them from you. 

But what is u deniable is the culprits of the grooming gangs  are Muslim. 

There was no such thing as a grooming gang when I lived there. Fucking let the 3rd world in and you become 3rd world.
 
 
Which reported crimes are being hidden? Why do you keep making this shit up?
The government haven’t hidden anything.

what’s also undeniable is that the culprits were British citizens.

Is your solution to deport all Muslims?
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An example of where I agree with you. During the Southport riots last year, some Muslims were asked to leave any weapons they were carrying in the local mosque, to be picked up later. At the same time, we were locking people up for twitter and FB posts. Absolutely diabolical state of affairs, one that infuriates me and many like me. Not evry one is a 'let's hug em all' liberal but there is a touch of realism that needs to be faced amid all the emotion of these situations.
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only1billybonds wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:18 Nuts.

FWIW I agree that we are to soft when it comes to some wrongdoers. Thevpoint i'm making is somevof these wrongdoers are as British as you and me and the're here to stay until THEY say otherwise. 
 Not all of them Billy. And those that are need to get the book thrown at them no matter what color they are or back ground they come from. Those that are illegal get deported them and their families. Watch the rape crime rate drop.
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goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:11
Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:03
goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 19:52
Turning? But none are anywhere close to being 3rd world, you can’t even provide 1 metric where they are close. And I think we both know why that is……

migrants coming to the uk on a working visa have to pay tax and pay for access to the health services. For citizenship there’s a test which is in English.

yesterday you thought ukip were reform, so I’m not surprised you have no idea about what reform are promising to do.
Here is 1 metric rape and grooming gangs! Wtf are you talking about.
None of the places you listed are in the top 5 in the U.K. 
Globally they’re a million miles off the worst.
There are some cities in the US with higher sex crime rates than Bradford.


you’re utterly clueless on this.
 
 
How do you know the numbers of rape victims your Gov’t hides them from you. 

But what is u deniable is the culprits of the grooming gangs  are Muslim. 

There was no such thing as a grooming gang when I lived there. Fucking let the 3rd world in and you become 3rd world.
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Nuts.

FWIW I agree that we are to soft when it comes to some wrongdoers. Thevpoint i'm making is somevof these wrongdoers are as British as you and me and the're here to stay until THEY say otherwise. 
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Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 20:03
goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 19:52
Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 19:44
Before you send me that Dictionary for my birthday be sure to look up the word “turning” 

San Felipe is 3rd world even by Bangladesh standards, so you’re wrong.

As for the British citizen argument that’s easily solved.

Reform the immigration law so that when someone is granted asylum and given citizenship it comes with 10 year condition list, learn the language, work and pay taxes and do not commit any crime. I like Trumps stance if someone commits a crime deport the criminal and all their immediate family members that came with them too.
After 10 years the condition is removed and then they get tried as a Citizen like everyone else.
Turning? But none are anywhere close to being 3rd world, you can’t even provide 1 metric where they are close. And I think we both know why that is……

migrants coming to the uk on a working visa have to pay tax and pay for access to the health services. For citizenship there’s a test which is in English.

yesterday you thought ukip were reform, so I’m not surprised you have no idea about what reform are promising to do.
Here is 1 metric rape and grooming gangs! Wtf are you talking about.
None of the places you listed are in the top 5 in the U.K. 
Globally they’re a million miles off the worst.
There are some cities in the US with higher sex crime rates than Bradford.


you’re utterly clueless on this.
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only1billybonds wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 19:53 What I'm saying is stopping the boats doesn't rid the country of radical Islamists and you can't deport British citizens. This isn't hard Nuts,no one is saying that the illegals aren't a problem but stopping them won't eradicate all our problems.
Billy if you keep treating these cunts with kid gloves they’ll keep misbehaving because they face little to no consequence. Keep giving them endless handouts they’ll continue to come. Take away the benefits and deport the bad ones first, then deport the illegals. Any on a visa deport immediately if they break the law which includes carrying a knife or machete in public. That’s a start.
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goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 19:52
Nutsin wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 19:44
goose wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 19:23
You’ve seen Mexico, which isn’t a 3rd world country.
And even if it were, it’s in no way comparable to
tge place you listed (which you haven’t been either).

The other bit is just hysterical nonsense again. Majority of knife crime is British citizens, you think reform are sending them anywhere?
Before you send me that Dictionary for my birthday be sure to look up the word “turning” 

San Felipe is 3rd world even by Bangladesh standards, so you’re wrong.

As for the British citizen argument that’s easily solved.

Reform the immigration law so that when someone is granted asylum and given citizenship it comes with 10 year condition list, learn the language, work and pay taxes and do not commit any crime. I like Trumps stance if someone commits a crime deport the criminal and all their immediate family members that came with them too.
After 10 years the condition is removed and then they get tried as a Citizen like everyone else.
Turning? But none are anywhere close to being 3rd world, you can’t even provide 1 metric where they are close. And I think we both know why that is……

migrants coming to the uk on a working visa have to pay tax and pay for access to the health services. For citizenship there’s a test which is in English.

yesterday you thought ukip were reform, so I’m not surprised you have no idea about what reform are promising to do.
Here is 1 metric rape and grooming gangs! Wtf are you talking about.
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What I'm saying is stopping the boats doesn't rid the country of radical Islamists and you can't deport British citizens. This isn't hard Nuts,no one is saying that the illegals aren't a problem but stopping them won't eradicate all our problems.
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