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you wonder why so many devotees of Islam are into young girls, it's doctrine from childhood & you can hardly blame the parents because they know no better, being brought up the same way.

Muslims are permitted to get married at 16 for men and 12 for girls... in Iran it's girls 9, boys 15... the boss married Aisha when she 7, the marriage was consummated when she was 9years old.

And people wonder why there multiple sex grooming gangs.

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Looks like Starmer is following in the Pakistani Gov’ts footsteps! What a surprise!

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Given the amount of attention and his had garnered, do you think people aren’t being taken seriously if they report it?

Yes. The Grooming gangs have been still operating to this very day and it's not being taken as seriously as it should be. People like Maggie Oliver isn't making it to, she knows this inside and out and she's had to fight like hell to get some of these girls voices heard even now. 

Operating and it’s not being reported? I’m assuming that as you know it’s happening the cases are being reported and the task force is doing its job?

 

 

That is what Oliver is claiming from what she knows personally dealing with all this. I'll take her word for it over anyone. She's demanding for the system to be more resourced and taken seriously as it's "100% still going on". And if it's still going on, nothing is changing and we all continue to bury our heads in the sand. And those are just of those that have come forward, it's understood the grooming gangs is far more worse than that but you we aren't going to have the data for that considering the sensitivity of those not wishing to come forward and be as brave, or indeed endless ones already being ignored. 

Once upon a time everyone was oblivious to the epidemic as it was being purposely swept under the carpet which is food to thought as to how bad it had been going on to the point now we know of 4,000 officially reported. I don't think they've scratched the surface with what Oliver is implying.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 15261.html

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Stop the bullshit. I never said the BBC said all Pakistanis are rapists, All the BBC did was research who were the people that were convicted of grooming and raping and a vast majority were British- Pakistani. I’ve said this several times and now you’re trying to exaggerate my point because you have no argument.
And no the numbers are not all out there for the public domain because of all the cover ups. God knows how many cases there are that we don’t k ow about and will never know about because of the refusal to dig deep enough to find out. What are they so afraid of?



You have no credibility left. You are nothing more than a kiddy fiddling sympathizer.

You said it’s embedded in them. If that were the case it would be embedded in all of them no?

Are you saying that victims haven’t come forward? Given the amount of attention and his had garnered, do you think people aren’t being taken seriously if they report it?
They identified 4,000 victims.

 

4,000 too many. I posted a link stating when Starmer was in charge of the CPS he refused to prosecute several cases, some were later prosecuted after he left. So yes, And let’s not forget the Police cover ups where kids who came forward were ignored, some even shamed by the authorities and called racist. These are facts. God knows how many victims who didn’t come forward because they were scared. I bet the real numbers are much higher.

And who do you think it is who is corrupting the mind of second generation British-Pakistani rapists? I can tell you this, they’re not learning it in high school ffs.

They’re either getting it from their parents, Imam or the Quran. Where else would they get if from. I’m sure some of these so called British Pakistani’s were born and raised in Pakistan too. They’re only British-Pakistani because the weak incompetent Gov’t gave them a British passport.

Ban the Pakistani’s and Halal they’re inhumane!

Many were second generation. Born & raised here.

You were celebrating the other week when Trump was cosying up the strictest Islamic states on the planet for investment.

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The BBC think all Pakistani’s are rapists? We both know they didn’t say that.

The numbers are out there in the public domain, as is the deserved criticism of the police for their response.

The last reported gang was c2010. These are historic investigations. 

Stop the bullshit. I never said the BBC said all Pakistanis are rapists, All the BBC did was research who were the people that were convicted of grooming and raping and a vast majority were British- Pakistani. I’ve said this several times and now you’re trying to exaggerate my point because you have no argument.
And no the numbers are not all out there for the public domain because of all the cover ups. God knows how many cases there are that we don’t k ow about and will never know about because of the refusal to dig deep enough to find out. What are they so afraid of?



You have no credibility left. You are nothing more than a kiddy fiddling sympathizer.

You said it’s embedded in them. If that were the case it would be embedded in all of them no?

Are you saying that victims haven’t come forward? Given the amount of attention and his had garnered, do you think people aren’t being taken seriously if they report it?
They identified 4,000 victims.

 

 

4,000 too many. I posted a link stating when Starmer was in charge of the CPS he refused to prosecute several cases, some were later prosecuted after he left. So yes, And let’s not forget the Police cover ups where kids who came forward were ignored, some even shamed by the authorities and called racist. These are facts. God knows how many victims who didn’t come forward because they were scared. I bet the real numbers are much higher.

And who do you think it is who is corrupting the mind of second generation British-Pakistani rapists? I can tell you this, they’re not learning it in high school ffs.

They’re either getting it from their parents, Imam or the Quran. Where else would they get if from. I’m sure some of these so called British Pakistani’s were born and raised in Pakistan too. They’re only British-Pakistani because the weak incompetent Gov’t gave them a British passport.

Ban the Pakistani’s and Halal they’re inhumane!

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Stop the bullshit. I never said the BBC said all Pakistanis are rapists, All the BBC did was research who were the people that were convicted of grooming and raping and a vast majority were British- Pakistani. I’ve said this several times and now you’re trying to exaggerate my point because you have no argument.
And no the numbers are not all out there for the public domain because of all the cover ups. God knows how many cases there are that we don’t k ow about and will never know about because of the refusal to dig deep enough to find out. What are they so afraid of?



You have no credibility left. You are nothing more than a kiddy fiddling sympathizer.

Given the amount of attention and his had garnered, do you think people aren’t being taken seriously if they report it?

Yes. The Grooming gangs have been still operating to this very day and it's not being taken as seriously as it should be. People like Maggie Oliver isn't making it to, she knows this inside and out and she's had to fight like hell to get some of these girls voices heard even now. 

Operating and it’s not being reported? I’m assuming that as you know it’s happening the cases are being reported and the task force is doing its job?

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The BBC think all Pakistani’s are rapists? We both know they didn’t say that.

The numbers are out there in the public domain, as is the deserved criticism of the police for their response.

The last reported gang was c2010. These are historic investigations. 

Stop the bullshit. I never said the BBC said all Pakistanis are rapists, All the BBC did was research who were the people that were convicted of grooming and raping and a vast majority were British- Pakistani. I’ve said this several times and now you’re trying to exaggerate my point because you have no argument.
And no the numbers are not all out there for the public domain because of all the cover ups. God knows how many cases there are that we don’t k ow about and will never know about because of the refusal to dig deep enough to find out. What are they so afraid of?



You have no credibility left. You are nothing more than a kiddy fiddling sympathizer.

Given the amount of attention and his had garnered, do you think people aren’t being taken seriously if they report it?

Yes. The Grooming gangs have been still operating to this very day and it's not being taken as seriously as it should be. People like Maggie Oliver isn't making it up or hamming it up for effect, she knows this inside and out and she's had to fight like hell to get some of these girls voices heard even now. 

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If the number of grooming gangs rapes weren’t so horrific why would they need to cover them up?

Of it was just a handful it wouldn’t need to be covered up.

God only knows how many kids have had their childhoods and lives ruined.

and it’s imbedded in them because it has been preached to them for centuries, which explains why 2nd generation Pakistanis are doing it en masse. 

You can take the man out of a 3rd world cesspit but you can’t take the 3rd world cesspit out of the man or his offspring in the case of Pakistani’s. That’s how I know it’s imbedded. Even the BBC thinks so ffs

The BBC think all Pakistani’s are rapists? We both know they didn’t say that.

The numbers are out there in the public domain, as is the deserved criticism of the police for their response.

The last reported gang was c2010. These are historic investigations. 

Stop the bullshit. I never said the BBC said all Pakistanis are rapists, All the BBC did was research who were the people that were convicted of grooming and raping and a vast majority were British- Pakistani. I’ve said this several times and now you’re trying to exaggerate my point because you have no argument.
And no the numbers are not all out there for the public domain because of all the cover ups. God knows how many cases there are that we don’t k ow about and will never know about because of the refusal to dig deep enough to find out. What are they so afraid of?



You have no credibility left. You are nothing more than a kiddy fiddling sympathizer.

You said it’s embedded in them. If that were the case it would be embedded in all of them no?

Are you saying that victims haven’t come forward? Given the amount of attention and his had garnered, do you think people aren’t being taken seriously if they report it?
They identified 4,000 victims.

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And that's just it, for decades to the present day the mass grooming gangs scandal hasn't been properly investigated and has taken those like whistle-blowers from within Maggie Oliver to expose the true horrors. The Govt, Police etc have been complicit in their actions or non-actions in many cases. That's why it needs a proper thorough National Inquiry to seriously get to the bottom of it all. 

If the number of grooming gangs rapes weren’t so horrific why would they need to cover them up?

Of it was just a handful it wouldn’t need to be covered up.

God only knows how many kids have had their childhoods and lives ruined.

and it’s imbedded in them because it has been preached to them for centuries, which explains why 2nd generation Pakistanis are doing it en masse. 

You can take the man out of a 3rd world cesspit but you can’t take the 3rd world cesspit out of the man or his offspring in the case of Pakistani’s. That’s how I know it’s imbedded. Even the BBC thinks so ffs

The BBC think all Pakistani’s are rapists? We both know they didn’t say that.

The numbers are out there in the public domain, as is the deserved criticism of the police for their response.

The last reported gang was c2010. These are historic investigations. 

Stop the bullshit. I never said the BBC said all Pakistanis are rapists, All the BBC did was research who were the people that were convicted of grooming and raping and a vast majority were British- Pakistani. I’ve said this several times and now you’re trying to exaggerate my point because you have no argument.
And no the numbers are not all out there for the public domain because of all the cover ups. God knows how many cases there are that we don’t k ow about and will never know about because of the refusal to dig deep enough to find out. What are they so afraid of?



You have no credibility left. You are nothing more than a kiddy fiddling sympathizer.

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when was the last reported grooming gang in the U.K. btw?

And that's just it, for decades to the present day the mass grooming gangs scandal hasn't been properly investigated and has taken those like whistle-blowers from within Maggie Oliver to expose the true horrors. The Govt, Police etc have been complicit in their actions or non-actions in many cases. That's why it needs a proper thorough National Inquiry to seriously get to the bottom of it all. 

If the number of grooming gangs rapes weren’t so horrific why would they need to cover them up?

Of it was just a handful it wouldn’t need to be covered up.

God only knows how many kids have had their childhoods and lives ruined.

and it’s imbedded in them because it has been preached to them for centuries, which explains why 2nd generation Pakistanis are doing it en masse. 

You can take the man out of a 3rd world cesspit but you can’t take the 3rd world cesspit out of the man or his offspring in the case of Pakistani’s. That’s how I know it’s imbedded. Even the BBC thinks so ffs

The BBC think all Pakistani’s are rapists? We both know they didn’t say that.

The numbers are out there in the public domain, as is the deserved criticism of the police for their response.

The last reported gang was c2010. These are historic investigations. 

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Difference is the imbedded rotten mindset that comes with Islam for one.

We are talking about the UK for 2

Trump is dealing with the Mexican problem, Starmer isn’t dealing with the kiddy rape epidemic.

Mexican Gov’t and clergy are flat out dead against kiddy crime. Many Imams believe in pedofilia.

Mexicans assimilate, Pakistani’s not so much.

Mexicans aren’t stuck in the 7th century mindset.

I could go on.

when was the last reported grooming gang in the U.K. btw?

And that's just it, for decades to the present day the mass grooming gangs scandal hasn't been properly investigated and has taken those like whistle-blowers from within Maggie Oliver to expose the true horrors. The Govt, Police etc have been complicit in their actions or non-actions in many cases. That's why it needs a proper thorough National Inquiry to seriously get to the bottom of it all. 

If the number of grooming gangs rapes weren’t so horrific why would they need to cover them up?

Of it was just a handful it wouldn’t need to be covered up.

God only knows how many kids have had their childhoods and lives ruined.

and it’s imbedded in them because it has been preached to them for centuries, which explains why 2nd generation Pakistanis are doing it en masse. 

You can take the man out of a 3rd world cesspit but you can’t take the 3rd world cesspit out of the man or his offspring in the case of Pakistani’s. That’s how I know it’s imbedded. Even the BBC thinks so ffs

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Theres plenty of news stories and videos of Mexicans committing violent crimes. What’s the difference?

Difference is the imbedded rotten mindset that comes with Islam for one.

We are talking about the UK for 2

Trump is dealing with the Mexican problem, Starmer isn’t dealing with the kiddy rape epidemic.

Mexican Gov’t and clergy are flat out dead against kiddy crime. Many Imams believe in pedofilia.

Mexicans assimilate, Pakistani’s not so much.

Mexicans aren’t stuck in the 7th century mindset.

I could go on.

when was the last reported grooming gang in the U.K. btw?

And that's just it, for decades to the present day the mass grooming gangs scandal hasn't been properly investigated and has taken those like whistle-blowers from within Maggie Oliver to expose the true horrors. The Govt, Police etc have been complicit in their actions or non-actions in many cases. That's why it needs a proper thorough National Inquiry to seriously get to the bottom of it all. 

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No my opinion on Muslims is broadbased. They all follow a sick cult. There are plenty of clips out there of rapey Muslims doing rapey things and harassing women. Way too many for my liking.

So no thanks! We can do without that kind of mental sickness in the UK! 

Theres plenty of news stories and videos of Mexicans committing violent crimes. What’s the difference?

Difference is the imbedded rotten mindset that comes with Islam for one.

We are talking about the UK for 2

Trump is dealing with the Mexican problem, Starmer isn’t dealing with the kiddy rape epidemic.

Mexican Gov’t and clergy are flat out dead against kiddy crime. Many Imams believe in pedofilia.

Mexicans assimilate, Pakistani’s not so much.

Mexicans aren’t stuck in the 7th century mindset.

I could go on.

You know it’s embedded in their mindset how?
I prefer to judge based on actions. The actions of Mexicans show them to be violent people who traffic children and sell drugs to kids.

Are you saying that’s okay?

To use your logic, Trump would have to ban ALL immigration from Mexico.

Many Mexicans absolutely do not assimilate. There are many areas of Texas were c30% can speak limited or no English.


when was the last reported grooming gang in the U.K. btw?

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Ireland, Norway and some hand picked news stories.

the one in Ireland was organised by the locals for EID in an attempt to integrate them.

nobody is saying that every race & every religion is perfect and never commit crimes.

if I could be bothered I could post numerous videos of Mexicans trafficking kids or shooting innocent people or selling drugs. That doesn’t mean that every Mexican does that.

Theres 4m Muslims in the uk. You’re judging all of them based on the actions of a tiny minority.

No my opinion on Muslims is broadbased. They all follow a sick cult. There are plenty of clips out there of rapey Muslims doing rapey things and harassing women. Way too many for my liking.

So no thanks! We can do without that kind of mental sickness in the UK! 

Theres plenty of news stories and videos of Mexicans committing violent crimes. What’s the difference?

Difference is the imbedded rotten mindset that comes with Islam for one.

We are talking about the UK for 2

Trump is dealing with the Mexican problem, Starmer isn’t dealing with the kiddy rape epidemic.

Mexican Gov’t and clergy are flat out dead against kiddy crime. Many Imams believe in pedofilia.

Mexicans assimilate, Pakistani’s not so much.

Mexicans aren’t stuck in the 7th century mindset.

I could go on.

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Ireland, Norway and some hand picked news stories.

the one in Ireland was organised by the locals for EID in an attempt to integrate them.

nobody is saying that every race & every religion is perfect and never commit crimes.

if I could be bothered I could post numerous videos of Mexicans trafficking kids or shooting innocent people or selling drugs. That doesn’t mean that every Mexican does that.

Theres 4m Muslims in the uk. You’re judging all of them based on the actions of a tiny minority.

No my opinion on Muslims is broadbased. They all follow a sick cult. There are plenty of clips out there of rapey Muslims doing rapey things and harassing women. Way too many for my liking.

So no thanks! We can do without that kind of mental sickness in the UK! 

Theres plenty of news stories and videos of Mexicans committing violent crimes. What’s the difference?

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Ireland, Norway and some hand picked news stories.

the one in Ireland was organised by the locals for EID in an attempt to integrate them.

nobody is saying that every race & every religion is perfect and never commit crimes.

if I could be bothered I could post numerous videos of Mexicans trafficking kids or shooting innocent people or selling drugs. That doesn’t mean that every Mexican does that.

Theres 4m Muslims in the uk. You’re judging all of them based on the actions of a tiny minority.

No my opinion on Muslims is broadbased. They all follow a sick cult. There are plenty of clips out there of rapey Muslims doing rapey things and harassing women. Way too many for my liking.

So no thanks! We can do without that kind of mental sickness in the UK! 

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Ireland, Norway and some hand picked news stories.

the one in Ireland was organised by the locals for EID in an attempt to integrate them.

nobody is saying that every race & every religion is perfect and never commit crimes.

if I could be bothered I could post numerous videos of Mexicans trafficking kids or shooting innocent people or selling drugs. That doesn’t mean that every Mexican does that.

Theres 4m Muslims in the uk. You’re judging all of them based on the actions of a tiny minority.

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Is be fucking livid if I found out I’d been contributing to Halal slaughter unknowingly.



 

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