Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

[stubbo-admin]

May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.

Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?

Window this close season comes in two parts:

Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September

Rumoured Outs...most of the squad

Let the "Rumoured In's" commence. 

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Player | Position | Club | Fee (GBP)

Rumoured In

1. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
2. Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
3. Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
4. Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
5. Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
6. Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
7. James Trafford | GK | Burnley
8. Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
9. Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
10. CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
11. Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
12. Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
13. Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
14. Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
15. Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
16. James McAtee | AM | Man City
17. Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
18. Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
19. Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
20. Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
21. Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
22. Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
23. Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
24. Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
25. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
26. Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
27. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
28. Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers

Rumoured Out

1. Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseille,  Juventus |  ~25m
2. Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
3. Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/River Plate 
4. Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
5. Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
6. Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
7. Lucas Paqueta | AM | Multiple/Ban
8. Andy Irving | CM | Celtic

Confirmed In

1. Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)

Confirmed Out

1. Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
2. Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
3. Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
4. Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
5. Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
6. Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
7. Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
8. Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
9. Brad Dolaghan | Released
10. Dondre Abraham | Released
11. Mehmet Halim | Released

[onsideman]

Yeah, it shouldn't really be a discussion as to which of the two might be better for us. I'd love us to be aiming higher then both of them, but I don't particularly rate Ward-Prowse and I don't like his age profile

[Massive Attack]

I don't particularly want Brownhill either, but any comparison needs to look at career trajectory. 1 goal in 15 for Ward-Prowse last year and he's got progressively less productive since 2021-22. For your historical stats to stand up you'd need to see a significant improvement next season and I for one ain't hopeful 

Ward-Prowse shouldn't have been loaned out last season by Lopetegui, Steidten or whether it was a joint decision, as the season before last he produced decent results in his debut season for us.

Prem League - 7 G 7 A
Europa League - 4 A
18 Goals made altogether 

Helped us reach 9th in the Prem as well as the Europa Quarters losing to Leverkusen. Brownhill has never made such an impact at that level and I'm not hopeful he'll get near what Ward-Prowse produced. 

I don't even strongly dislike Brownhill, he seems like an honest hard working OK squad player. I'm more angry with the Club resorting to basement deals for average players because we are run like a 2bob amateur Club at times by Sullivan. 

That all being said should he likely rock up I hope he can take his decent form from the Championship and continue in much the same vein. Looking at his career though he'll be bucking a trend to achieve it.

[onsideman]

I don't particularly want Brownhill either, but any comparison needs to look at career trajectory. 1 goal in 15 for Ward-Prowse last year and he's got progressively less productive since 2021-22. For your historical stats to stand up you'd need to see a significant improvement next season and I for one ain't hopeful 

[Massive Attack]

Vexed 

There's really no comparison. As I posted the other day 1 of them pisses all over the others ability to both score and make goals for others. And with that in mind I know who'd I'd sooner have here out the two.

Prem records -

Ward-Prowse
​​​​404 apps 57 goals 47 assists
1 goal produced every 3 games

Brownhill 
111 apps 6 goals 6 assists
1 goal produced every 9 games

18 goals (15 without pens)? All in the Championship which of course isn't the level of the Premier League where he's produced very little.

No coincidence either that Ward-Prowse was a part of Teams last season that won at Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd and drew at Chelsea. 

You're more than welcome to lap up Brownhills ability in the Championship though.
 

[Lee Trundle]

Brownhill ain't exciting and won't be starting but if you can't see that this is a relatively shrewd move for zero pounds then there's probably no hope for you. Probably the same people that hated Dawson.

Scores goals, can put it about a bit, can get up and down and is a trier. This combination of characteristics don't exist in any other player in our current squad. 

We've already got that in the side with Ward-Prowse and Soucek and both a level above Brownhills quality at a similar age. Yes he'll cost us nothing (music to Sullivans ears) but it's hardly a signing that changes anything. I'd sooner see the likes of Earthy and Potts given a proper go now in the Squad, as well as Irving so I don't see a real need for Brownhill.

If we were to add in that area of the pitch I'd much rather see us go for a lot better quality as a statement of what we want to do. Genuinely fast, highly energetic who could make more goals than Brownhills previously poor Premier League output and 1 much younger than 30 this year. I thought 1 of the main issues was to also considerably lower the age of the Squad with new additions?

For the record I loved Dawson and was 1 of the few that said he'd pleasantly surprise and produce some serious results and performances for us. I don't see Brownhill being in that bracket though, who has only excelled more in the Championship. 

 

Dont get me wrong, I'm not excited by Brownhill but can at least see through the tears enough to notice that while JWP is tidy, he doesn't really score many goals, doesn't really get up and down or put his foot in but he is undoubtedly a good egg. Soucek, scores goals for sure, will put his foot in but can't get up and down for shit. Brownhill can score, can get stuck in, get up and down, wants to be at the club. Fills a gap we don't have from the bench.

We're desperately shopping JWP and Alvarez (no goal threat, can't get up and down, will stick his foot in, thinks he's too good for us) around to whoever is stupid enough to take them. Soucek will be allowed to leave by the idiot Potter when Moyes offers a tenner for him. There's plenty of room to fill in that midfield. Brownhill is effectively the replacement for Irving who will also get shopped around this summer. Clearly an upgrade. 

cսnt scored 18 goals last season. If his name was Carlos Wanquez from Deportivo Spickorado you'd be all over it. 

Yeah the window is not looking too promising but getting all tearful over a relatively shrewd signing in the context of the mega rebuild we have on our hands must be fucking tiring. Do better you cսnt. 

Brownhill can score?

JWP - 404 Prem appearances, 57 goals
Brownhill - 101 Prem appearances, 6 goals

[Vexed]

Brownhill ain't exciting and won't be starting but if you can't see that this is a relatively shrewd move for zero pounds then there's probably no hope for you. Probably the same people that hated Dawson.

Scores goals, can put it about a bit, can get up and down and is a trier. This combination of characteristics don't exist in any other player in our current squad. 

We've already got that in the side with Ward-Prowse and Soucek and both a level above Brownhills quality at a similar age. Yes he'll cost us nothing (music to Sullivans ears) but it's hardly a signing that changes anything. I'd sooner see the likes of Earthy and Potts given a proper go now in the Squad, as well as Irving so I don't see a real need for Brownhill.

If we were to add in that area of the pitch I'd much rather see us go for a lot better quality as a statement of what we want to do. Genuinely fast, highly energetic who could make more goals than Brownhills previously poor Premier League output and 1 much younger than 30 this year. I thought 1 of the main issues was to also considerably lower the age of the Squad with new additions?

For the record I loved Dawson and was 1 of the few that said he'd pleasantly surprise and produce some serious results and performances for us. I don't see Brownhill being in that bracket though, who has only excelled more in the Championship. 

 

Dont get me wrong, I'm not excited by Brownhill but can at least see through the tears enough to notice that while JWP is tidy, he doesn't really score many goals, doesn't really get up and down or put his foot in but he is undoubtedly a good egg. Soucek, scores goals for sure, will put his foot in but can't get up and down for shit. Brownhill can score, can get stuck in, get up and down, wants to be at the club. Fills a gap we don't have from the bench.

We're desperately shopping JWP and Alvarez (no goal threat, can't get up and down, will stick his foot in, thinks he's too good for us) around to whoever is stupid enough to take them. Soucek will be allowed to leave by the idiot Potter when Moyes offers a tenner for him. There's plenty of room to fill in that midfield. Brownhill is effectively the replacement for Irving who will also get shopped around this summer. Clearly an upgrade. 

cսnt scored 18 goals last season. If his name was Carlos Wanquez from Deportivo Spickorado you'd be all over it. 

Yeah the window is not looking too promising but getting all tearful over a relatively shrewd signing in the context of the mega rebuild we have on our hands must be fucking tiring. Do better you cսnt. 

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[twoleftfeet]

Brighton just spent £30m on an 18 year old Greek international.

Have we signed Brownhill yet?

[Sir Alf]

Agree 100% AdsIron.  That is how it will play out. Not hard to predict really as it just takes a look back over the last 15 years under Sullivan.  I have never doubted he wants success for West Ham and with the extra revenue from Euro campaigns he did allow some decent money to be spent. But it was invested so poorly and he is just not any good at running a club from a footballing perspective .  We are arguably right back to where we started before the spending spree under Pellegrini.  A bare bones squad, many over paid, older players, relegation strugglers with restricted finances now even worse as we have recruited and spent money so poorly. Why?  Because there has never had a coherent, joined up plan for the football club, just knee jerk responses year on year.  Sullivan's personality or psychology is part of the problem of course, he has always strived for appreciation as some kind of saviour,  to satisfy a huge ego etc.. ( compensating for small stature possibly)  and narcissistic tendency to believe he knows better than professional people in football when it comes to identifying players, conducting transfer business etc.  

I cannot see any transfer activity happening until its too late in August and as AdsIron says, Potter and Macaulay's primary targets not being secured and us settling for loans, freebies etc that are positioned as shrewd investments.

[RBshorty]

Jhon Duran could be loaned out for next season.!

Sullivan will be wanking himself silly with this news.

[honky cat]

FauxstralianSaid most likely might be McKenna from Ipswich … who he said JUST GOT RELEGATED 

They were only ever going to be relegated, but i thought they gave it a go. A few 3-2 defeats, scoring draws. Even when we beat them 4-1 they made a game of it first half. Lost a couple of decent players through injury. I woudn't write him off.

[Adsiron]

It's typical Sullivan so expect no new players until late in the next window even if a few player sales are made. A big loss on the accounts needs to be averted in the only way Sullivan knows and that means player sales of say £60m comes off bottom line losses less the players' values still shown on the books. 

Loans, frees and deferred purchases will be order of the day. It won't involve getting any of Potter's first choice players. It will be announced implying them as Potter choices and being sold to fans as future stars. Perhaps one or two decent players other clubs need to offload late in the window might come but they will have to be bargains.

It has always been that way and will continue to be while Sullivan is in charge. We'll continue supporting them but don't hope for top 6 or 7... .

[Eerie Decent]

What a load of old codswallop.
 

[southbankbornnbred]

Genuinely, I think even Sullivan realises he might have come to the end of the road. The problem is that the big buyer/investor he and Brady planned for when they moved us to the soul-less bowl has not materialised. And, sadly, he lost his mate in the meantime.

Sullivan, Gold and Brady gambled that they’d have sold out by now and it hasn’t happened. So now those who remain are sitting on an over-valued asset of little interest to a buyer - and they don’t want to spend.

A situation made worse by Kretinsky’s purchase of Royal Mail, which (combined with volatile energy markets relating his other key assets) effectively ended any hope he’d buy the club outright.

Now we’re staring at the arse end of that failed “plan”.

They all thought their dream buyer(s) would have been in for us by now. We’re lumped with multiple part-owners who don’t want to invest any more. They just want a white knight on a horse to buy them out. Unicorn thinking.
 

[Fauxstralian]

Brentford fan from work reckoned they were planning to promote one of their assistants as they did with Frank but seems he is going to Tottenham with the backroom team
Said most likely might be McKenna from Ipswich … who he said JUST GOT RELEGATED 

[claypole]

I guess if Frank goes he might take some of the players & who knows how the new guy might do
Palace & Fulham are well ahead of us
The only risk for Palace is if they get kicked out of Europe & someone takes Eze & Wharton

It will be interesting to see who Brentford appoint. They appear to be a well run club with a cohesive recruitment policy, will they be scratching around in the out of contract bargain bin? 

[Rossal]

Yeah the bookies i guess are thinking those teams will lose players and need rebuilds, in Palace's case they have Europe also.....

But they seem to forget we also need a rebuild, will probably lose more players and are starting from a far weaker value.  

I thought we would be 4/1 at best could not believe my eyes when i see we were 7s 

[Fauxstralian]

I guess if Frank goes he might take some of the players & who knows how the new guy might do
Palace & Fulham are well ahead of us
The only risk for Palace is if they get kicked out of Europe & someone takes Eze & Wharton

[Rossal]

We're 7/1 at the moment. Seems amazing value. 

Bookies have Brentford, Palace and Fulham more likely to go down than us. Mental

[John Drake]

If that's Sir Alf not being stressed or angsty, I'd hate to see the alternative

[Fauxstralian]

Believe the window opens AGAIN during the Club World Bollocks so those teams can change their squads
Why not just keep it open … plus have it SLAM SHUT again before the season starts

Sullivan isn’t paying any new players in June when they aren’t playing so has gone on holiday 
Not keeping his cheque book in his speedos

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

The window has SLAMMED SHUT. For one week. Go figure.

[Lee Trundle]

I'd be tempted to tip us a relegation candidates if we did that, Sir Alf.

[Sir Alf]

Personally, for once, Im really trying hard not to pay  too much attention to transfer rumours for the next 6-8 weeks. I would suggest we all do the same to avoid unnecessary stress and angst because the club ( Sullivan and shareholders ) posturing / messaging is pointing to a last minute frenzy. 

Mid to late August is when I expect we will start seriously to do some buying business. When its clear we didnt get the fees we want on Kudus, Alvarez, Emerson, Rodruiguez, Aguerd, Fullkrug, Irvine etc. Sullivan will be forced to sell most, if not all, at lower fees than he will hold out for and perhaps one or two others will be sacrificed too ( Soucek?) if bids come in for them. In other words, we will have to sell as many as possible to get a modest budget to spend. Potter and Macaulay will have about £75 million to spend if we manage to sell quite a few of the above as PSR will even take some of these sale fees if some of the club’s rumour mongers are to be believed.

We will start the season with perhaps one new signing, Brownhill and at best another free transfer ( Walker Peters?) is my guess.  Two others will come in if things go well imo but due to them being in the last weeks of the window, not Macaulay and Potter’s prime targets. Sullivan will have worked with agents to find “bargains”. Sullivan was never keen on Potter and his past coward like behaviour may well mean he is doing his best to ensure Potter does not get his picks and as few as possible as Sullivan is already thinking about replacing him at xmas? Lets be honest Steidten was set up to fail not being given a proper DOF role and Sullivan being very quick to move him on ( one window ) before taking back control of transfer business. 

Its hard to dispute the above scenario on any transfer business not being the most likely ( based on what we are hearing and seeing )  isnt it? 

So Im in self protection mode already ( 65 years of supporting West Ham does this to you)  ready for a “relegation fight” in the season ahead and perhaps relegation itself. It wont be a surprise.   Of course, I hope to be totally wrong and that the u21s like Potts and Earthy etc do far better than expected or that Sullivan via agents unearths another AWB like signing ( one out of 50 over 15 years he actually got right ).

Being a tad more positive, if we get a top quality, young, athletic, physical, central midfielder, we should stay up. Its the critical area to fix. If we get a decent striker too we could even make mid table or better. A new goal keeper and left back will be “cherries on the cake” but this is West Ham and Sullivan so I fully expect us to come up short and a lower table scrap or full blown relegation fight to be the most likely outcome.  

Happy summer !!

[Mike Oxsaw]

An unsavoury thought....if we have to sell before we can buy, who the hell can we sell that is going to actually bank roll a rebuild? And how do we shift those that we don't want. At this point, we have quite a few that look largely uncoveted!

• Rodriguez
• Irving
• Mavropanos
• Ward Prowse
• Areola
• Paqueta (owing to court case)
• Cornet
• Kilman. 

We've advertised we're desperate. We've advertised we can't buy until we sell. We've advertised we have cashflow troubles and not a pot to piss in.

All of these make us prone to horribly low ball offers at best, and at worst targets to avoid dealing with to leave us in the shit.

The above are our 'unwanted and unloved' largely. None of them look frankly desirable to a suitor. All (Irving aside) are on career high wages. And it's telling we rarely get shot of a player unless it's free at the end of their contracts.

Sullivan has engineered a disasterous dealing position, made us look needy and desperate, and the fabled rebuild is (rightfully) subject to shipping out sub par shit we don't want.

The only players it looks like we have that are truly saleable assets are Alvarez, Kudus, and Aguerd. We've been lowballed on Kudus already (fuck knows how they think they'll get 70m+ for him). But 50m doesn't finance a rebuild. Aguerd's suitors are already playing the "We'll have him on loan again" angle, as are Cornet's. 

This window looks fucked before it's even started. Potts, Earthy, Marshall, Orford and Casey better have high ceilings....looks like they might well be needed more than we'd like.
 

..."Potts, Earthy, Marshall, Orford and Casey better have high ceilings"...

You think Sullivan will sanction any of those to take a first team position?

That puts his expertise (and that of his agentmates) in the transfer market under question, if not severe strain.

Any bids whatsoever comes in and they'll be shown the door.