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Good to see him sporting glasses now since his Barnard castle eye-test mission.
I actually like him because he challenges the inner workings of power and seems to have his heart in the right place. Shit at bullshitting about bogus eyesight tests though.
I actually like him because he challenges the inner workings of power and seems to have his heart in the right place. Shit at bullshitting about bogus eyesight tests though.
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Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 21:36BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 20:57Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 20:00Well Bessant the head of the treasury was the one who mentioned taxes being deflationary. I think I’ll take his word on things, he’s been right so far.
Tarriff increases are not always passed on to the consumer and a reduction in energy costs brings down the costs of groceries and items sold at Walmart ffs.
As for the Tarriff revenue, China is being charged 55% Tariiffs, remember there will be a blanket 10% on everyone else minimum…. All that adds up. Trade barriers are coming down only a liberal would take issue with that.Oh dear keep digging muppet, true to form Nutsack you just regurgitate the moronic dribblings of your heoroes even when its irrelevant and/or you dont understand it. I googled Beasants remark and its not stating that reducing taxes will be deflationary you idiot. Its stating that on the theory that if increasing Tarriffs as a tax burden is inflationary then reducing taxes would have the opposite effect which I assume he knew to be not true as he was denying the former statement.
Now do you get it. Its really a school day everyday for you isnt it.
Oh and I have no problem with free trade its you and Trump who thinks having tarriffs at a miimum of 10% is good!Okay looks like you need another lesson on inflation.
When setting monetary policy including Interest rates the Fed look at the Core PCE Deflator. I already mentioned this to you.
The Core PCE Deflator Does not consider the price of o loaf of bread in its Inflation data. In fact it ignore groceries and energy prices altogether.
Only a Brian dead retarded liberal would point out tax cuts being inflationary. I bet you’re one of those retards that will claim wage growth increases ( people getting pay raises annd higher paying jobs) are inflationary and therefore bad for the economy too.
Mong!
I wasnt talking about interest rates so not sure what you are talking about. Maybe goose was? I dunno!
I was also not disputing how inflation is worked out so quit obfuscating.
You are deliberately avoiding the point that you thought Beasant was actually saying reducing taxes is anti-inflationary. Which is not what he said but you are too thick to understand it. You just google and regurgitate without actually understanding any of it!
I didnt say tax cuts were inflationary read it again idiot. I said they were not deflationary but that can lead to demand led inflation if people have too much money in their pockets and want to spend it without there being the supply to support it prices rise!
That is so clear to me now. You are actually as dumb as you sound.
I was also not disputing how inflation is worked out so quit obfuscating.
You are deliberately avoiding the point that you thought Beasant was actually saying reducing taxes is anti-inflationary. Which is not what he said but you are too thick to understand it. You just google and regurgitate without actually understanding any of it!
I didnt say tax cuts were inflationary read it again idiot. I said they were not deflationary but that can lead to demand led inflation if people have too much money in their pockets and want to spend it without there being the supply to support it prices rise!
That is so clear to me now. You are actually as dumb as you sound.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
The USA imports $438 Billion per year from China. Approx 1.4% of the $30 Trillion US annual GDP. It’s minimal. Easily offset with the reduction in energy costs.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 21:37goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 21:32All layers on higher borrowing costs for the president who said this:
“No member of Congress should be eligible for re‑election if our country’s budget is not balanced—deficits not allowed!”
first term he added $8trn to your national debt, he’s fc to add another $2trn a year.Are you spouting bollocks about spending under Covid now?
The historical numbers are absolute. If you wanna use the Covid excuse it’s still $4trn.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 21:32All layers on higher borrowing costs for the president who said this:
“No member of Congress should be eligible for re‑election if our country’s budget is not balanced—deficits not allowed!”
first term he added $8trn to your national debt, he’s fc to add another $2trn a year.
Are you spouting bollocks about spending under Covid now?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 20:57Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 20:00BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:56Oh dear. For someone who proclaims to be an expert in stocks and shares and a critical thinker you know absolutely nothing about the tax system or how tarrifs are applied are you actually the Donald himself?
Tarriffs are a tax on importing goods which directly raises prices and is therefore inflationary - right?
But reducing income taxes has no effect on reducing inflation in fact it can have the opposite effect as with more money in your pocket, you may well force demand and thus fuel inflation further.
Also if lower fuel prices are having a big impact on inflation as an overall figure then the fact inflation has risen slightly suggests its countering bigger rises elsewhere.
Oh and you cant keep banging on about tarrifs bringing tax revenue in and also stating that once the trade deals remove tarrifs prices will come down trade and will be free!
Numpty Nutsack!Well Bessant the head of the treasury was the one who mentioned taxes being deflationary. I think I’ll take his word on things, he’s been right so far.
Tarriff increases are not always passed on to the consumer and a reduction in energy costs brings down the costs of groceries and items sold at Walmart ffs.
As for the Tarriff revenue, China is being charged 55% Tariiffs, remember there will be a blanket 10% on everyone else minimum…. All that adds up. Trade barriers are coming down only a liberal would take issue with that.Oh dear keep digging muppet, true to form Nutsack you just regurgitate the moronic dribblings of your heoroes even when its irrelevant and/or you dont understand it. I googled Beasants remark and its not stating that reducing taxes will be deflationary you idiot. Its stating that on the theory that if increasing Tarriffs as a tax burden is inflationary then reducing taxes would have the opposite effect which I assume he knew to be not true as he was denying the former statement.
Now do you get it. Its really a school day everyday for you isnt it.
Oh and I have no problem with free trade its you and Trump who thinks having tarriffs at a miimum of 10% is good!
Okay looks like you need another lesson on inflation.
When setting monetary policy including Interest rates the Fed look at the Core PCE Deflator. I already mentioned this to you.
The Core PCE Deflator Does not consider the price of o loaf of bread in its Inflation data. In fact it ignore groceries and energy prices altogether.
Only a Brian dead retarded liberal would point out tax cuts being inflationary. I bet you’re one of those retards that will claim wage growth increases ( people getting pay raises annd higher paying jobs) are inflationary and therefore bad for the economy too.
Mong!
When setting monetary policy including Interest rates the Fed look at the Core PCE Deflator. I already mentioned this to you.
The Core PCE Deflator Does not consider the price of o loaf of bread in its Inflation data. In fact it ignore groceries and energy prices altogether.
Only a Brian dead retarded liberal would point out tax cuts being inflationary. I bet you’re one of those retards that will claim wage growth increases ( people getting pay raises annd higher paying jobs) are inflationary and therefore bad for the economy too.
Mong!
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Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 20:44All you got to do is see the interest rate chart to see how it’s reacted since the downgrade ffs.
Moodys downgrade was May 16 today the yield on the 10 year is lower.
as I said nothing burger.
All layers on higher borrowing costs for the president who said this:
“No member of Congress should be eligible for re‑election if our country’s budget is not balanced—deficits not allowed!”
first term he added $8trn to your national debt, he’s fc to add another $2trn a year.
“No member of Congress should be eligible for re‑election if our country’s budget is not balanced—deficits not allowed!”
first term he added $8trn to your national debt, he’s fc to add another $2trn a year.
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Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 20:00BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:56Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:34Wait until the trade barriers are removed and the existing Tarriffs removed against American producers. I think you’ll find that won’t make the U S poorer you moron.
Also if Tarriffs are a tax that increases inflation then Trumps tax cuts in his big beautiful bill will reduce inflation. The big one is energy costs that have come way down, they are a big win in the reduction of inflation.
An increase in GDP and Tarriff revenue will offset the increase in spending, everything you have is edt wing propoganda that has been dead wrong on everything. Yet you still reference it like it’s the written word. You’re stuck on stupid. Where’s all this Stagflation you were banging on about?Oh dear. For someone who proclaims to be an expert in stocks and shares and a critical thinker you know absolutely nothing about the tax system or how tarrifs are applied are you actually the Donald himself?
Tarriffs are a tax on importing goods which directly raises prices and is therefore inflationary - right?
But reducing income taxes has no effect on reducing inflation in fact it can have the opposite effect as with more money in your pocket, you may well force demand and thus fuel inflation further.
Also if lower fuel prices are having a big impact on inflation as an overall figure then the fact inflation has risen slightly suggests its countering bigger rises elsewhere.
Oh and you cant keep banging on about tarrifs bringing tax revenue in and also stating that once the trade deals remove tarrifs prices will come down trade and will be free!
Numpty Nutsack!Well Bessant the head of the treasury was the one who mentioned taxes being deflationary. I think I’ll take his word on things, he’s been right so far.
Tarriff increases are not always passed on to the consumer and a reduction in energy costs brings down the costs of groceries and items sold at Walmart ffs.
As for the Tarriff revenue, China is being charged 55% Tariiffs, remember there will be a blanket 10% on everyone else minimum…. All that adds up. Trade barriers are coming down only a liberal would take issue with that.
Oh dear keep digging muppet, true to form Nutsack you just regurgitate the moronic dribblings of your heoroes even when its irrelevant and/or you dont understand it. I googled Beasants remark and its not stating that reducing taxes will be deflationary you idiot. Its stating that on the theory that if increasing Tarriffs as a tax burden is inflationary then reducing taxes would have the opposite effect which I assume he knew to be not true as he was denying the former statement.
Now do you get it. Its really a school day everyday for you isnt it.
Oh and I have no problem with free trade its you and Trump who thinks having tarriffs at a miimum of 10% is good!
Now do you get it. Its really a school day everyday for you isnt it.
Oh and I have no problem with free trade its you and Trump who thinks having tarriffs at a miimum of 10% is good!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 19:54Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 19:39goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:50Everything you’ve just waffled about is YOUR view of what will happen.
I posted what has happened already. Absolute facts.
Your opinion is great if that makes you happy but pretty much every economist, bank, hedge fund etc etc disagrees with you. Your own central bank disagrees with you. The IMF, the world bank, your own congressional budget office…….. they all disagree with you.
They've all FC a slowdown in growth because of tariffs, inflation through to Q1 2026 because of tariffs, higher debt levels because of this bill, less scope for interest rate cuts.
But I’m sure to you, they’re all fake news.Standard and Poor downgraded the US credit rating in 2011 Fitch in 2023.
The moodys downgrade was a nothing burger. Markets didn’t react.
Everyone’s scaremongering especially the Globalists and the liberals!Not though is it? Because it directly impacts the rate you can borrow money at.
If they were nothing they wouldn’t exist.
All you got to do is see the interest rate chart to see how it’s reacted since the downgrade ffs.
Moodys downgrade was May 16 today the yield on the 10 year is lower.
as I said nothing burger.
Moodys downgrade was May 16 today the yield on the 10 year is lower.
as I said nothing burger.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:56Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:34goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:24Took on the world and made everything more expensive for everyone while overseeing the decline of manufacturing. Yeh well played![]()
Not to mention the trillions he’s adding to your debt.
So far you’ve had your credit rating downgraded, your growth forecast slashed and a panicked the bond market.
He’s making you poorer.Wait until the trade barriers are removed and the existing Tarriffs removed against American producers. I think you’ll find that won’t make the U S poorer you moron.
Also if Tarriffs are a tax that increases inflation then Trumps tax cuts in his big beautiful bill will reduce inflation. The big one is energy costs that have come way down, they are a big win in the reduction of inflation.
An increase in GDP and Tarriff revenue will offset the increase in spending, everything you have is edt wing propoganda that has been dead wrong on everything. Yet you still reference it like it’s the written word. You’re stuck on stupid. Where’s all this Stagflation you were banging on about?Oh dear. For someone who proclaims to be an expert in stocks and shares and a critical thinker you know absolutely nothing about the tax system or how tarrifs are applied are you actually the Donald himself?
Tarriffs are a tax on importing goods which directly raises prices and is therefore inflationary - right?
But reducing income taxes has no effect on reducing inflation in fact it can have the opposite effect as with more money in your pocket, you may well force demand and thus fuel inflation further.
Also if lower fuel prices are having a big impact on inflation as an overall figure then the fact inflation has risen slightly suggests its countering bigger rises elsewhere.
Oh and you cant keep banging on about tarrifs bringing tax revenue in and also stating that once the trade deals remove tarrifs prices will come down trade and will be free!
Numpty Nutsack!
Well Bessant the head of the treasury was the one who mentioned taxes being deflationary. I think I’ll take his word on things, he’s been right so far.
Tarriff increases are not always passed on to the consumer and a reduction in energy costs brings down the costs of groceries and items sold at Walmart ffs.
As for the Tarriff revenue, China is being charged 55% Tariiffs, remember there will be a blanket 10% on everyone else minimum…. All that adds up. Trade barriers are coming down only a liberal would take issue with that.
Tarriff increases are not always passed on to the consumer and a reduction in energy costs brings down the costs of groceries and items sold at Walmart ffs.
As for the Tarriff revenue, China is being charged 55% Tariiffs, remember there will be a blanket 10% on everyone else minimum…. All that adds up. Trade barriers are coming down only a liberal would take issue with that.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 19:39goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:50Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:34Wait until the trade barriers are removed and the existing Tarriffs removed against American producers. I think you’ll find that won’t make the U S poorer you moron.
Also if Tarriffs are a tax that increases inflation then Trumps tax cuts in his big beautiful bill will reduce inflation. The big one is energy costs that have come way down, they are a big win in the reduction of inflation.
An increase in GDP and Tarriff revenue will offset the increase in spending, everything you have is edt wing propoganda that has been dead wrong on everything. Yet you still reference it like it’s the written word. You’re stuck on stupid. Where’s all this Stagflation you were banging on about?Everything you’ve just waffled about is YOUR view of what will happen.
I posted what has happened already. Absolute facts.
Your opinion is great if that makes you happy but pretty much every economist, bank, hedge fund etc etc disagrees with you. Your own central bank disagrees with you. The IMF, the world bank, your own congressional budget office…….. they all disagree with you.
They've all FC a slowdown in growth because of tariffs, inflation through to Q1 2026 because of tariffs, higher debt levels because of this bill, less scope for interest rate cuts.
But I’m sure to you, they’re all fake news.Standard and Poor downgraded the US credit rating in 2011 Fitch in 2023.
The moodys downgrade was a nothing burger. Markets didn’t react.
Everyone’s scaremongering especially the Globalists and the liberals!
Not though is it? Because it directly impacts the rate you can borrow money at.
If they were nothing they wouldn’t exist.
If they were nothing they wouldn’t exist.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:50Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:34goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:24Took on the world and made everything more expensive for everyone while overseeing the decline of manufacturing. Yeh well played![]()
Not to mention the trillions he’s adding to your debt.
So far you’ve had your credit rating downgraded, your growth forecast slashed and a panicked the bond market.
He’s making you poorer.Wait until the trade barriers are removed and the existing Tarriffs removed against American producers. I think you’ll find that won’t make the U S poorer you moron.
Also if Tarriffs are a tax that increases inflation then Trumps tax cuts in his big beautiful bill will reduce inflation. The big one is energy costs that have come way down, they are a big win in the reduction of inflation.
An increase in GDP and Tarriff revenue will offset the increase in spending, everything you have is edt wing propoganda that has been dead wrong on everything. Yet you still reference it like it’s the written word. You’re stuck on stupid. Where’s all this Stagflation you were banging on about?Everything you’ve just waffled about is YOUR view of what will happen.
I posted what has happened already. Absolute facts.
Your opinion is great if that makes you happy but pretty much every economist, bank, hedge fund etc etc disagrees with you. Your own central bank disagrees with you. The IMF, the world bank, your own congressional budget office…….. they all disagree with you.
They've all FC a slowdown in growth because of tariffs, inflation through to Q1 2026 because of tariffs, higher debt levels because of this bill, less scope for interest rate cuts.
But I’m sure to you, they’re all fake news.
Yeah, I’ll keep buying the bottom while you sell it.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:50Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:34goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:24Took on the world and made everything more expensive for everyone while overseeing the decline of manufacturing. Yeh well played![]()
Not to mention the trillions he’s adding to your debt.
So far you’ve had your credit rating downgraded, your growth forecast slashed and a panicked the bond market.
He’s making you poorer.Wait until the trade barriers are removed and the existing Tarriffs removed against American producers. I think you’ll find that won’t make the U S poorer you moron.
Also if Tarriffs are a tax that increases inflation then Trumps tax cuts in his big beautiful bill will reduce inflation. The big one is energy costs that have come way down, they are a big win in the reduction of inflation.
An increase in GDP and Tarriff revenue will offset the increase in spending, everything you have is edt wing propoganda that has been dead wrong on everything. Yet you still reference it like it’s the written word. You’re stuck on stupid. Where’s all this Stagflation you were banging on about?Everything you’ve just waffled about is YOUR view of what will happen.
I posted what has happened already. Absolute facts.
Your opinion is great if that makes you happy but pretty much every economist, bank, hedge fund etc etc disagrees with you. Your own central bank disagrees with you. The IMF, the world bank, your own congressional budget office…….. they all disagree with you.
They've all FC a slowdown in growth because of tariffs, inflation through to Q1 2026 because of tariffs, higher debt levels because of this bill, less scope for interest rate cuts.
But I’m sure to you, they’re all fake news.
Standard and Poor downgraded the US credit rating in 2011 Fitch in 2023.
The moodys downgrade was a nothing burger. Markets didn’t react.
Everyone’s scaremongering especially the Globalists and the liberals!
The moodys downgrade was a nothing burger. Markets didn’t react.
Everyone’s scaremongering especially the Globalists and the liberals!
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Oh and as Trump is presiding over the lowest value Dollar in the last 3 years that will also have an inflationary impact as imports become more expensive.
On the flipside US exported goods will be cheaper for other countries.
On the flipside US exported goods will be cheaper for other countries.
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Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:34goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:24Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:14Yeah he took on China and all the other countries taking advantage of the USA taxpayer. Any hits will be temporary however so far even the hits still haven’t taken us above Bidenomics disastrous numbers. We’re still better off.
And read the article I posted on China’s dependence on the USA Petroleum products. There are no alternatives,
Interest rates are set by the Fed, Trump is calling for them to be reduced now but Powell is politicking, it’s no secret Trump is a Powell cynic and has been for ages.
So pipe down with your retarded TDS and sit back and watch him MAGA!
This time next year you’ll be pulling a Manuel. U til then we’re gonna have to continue to put up with you repeating the same old bollocks over and over again.Took on the world and made everything more expensive for everyone while overseeing the decline of manufacturing. Yeh well played![]()
Not to mention the trillions he’s adding to your debt.
So far you’ve had your credit rating downgraded, your growth forecast slashed and a panicked the bond market.
He’s making you poorer.Wait until the trade barriers are removed and the existing Tarriffs removed against American producers. I think you’ll find that won’t make the U S poorer you moron.
Also if Tarriffs are a tax that increases inflation then Trumps tax cuts in his big beautiful bill will reduce inflation. The big one is energy costs that have come way down, they are a big win in the reduction of inflation.
An increase in GDP and Tarriff revenue will offset the increase in spending, everything you have is edt wing propoganda that has been dead wrong on everything. Yet you still reference it like it’s the written word. You’re stuck on stupid. Where’s all this Stagflation you were banging on about?
Oh dear. For someone who proclaims to be an expert in stocks and shares and a critical thinker you know absolutely nothing about the tax system or how tarrifs are applied are you actually the Donald himself?
Tarriffs are a tax on importing goods which directly raises prices and is therefore inflationary - right?
But reducing income taxes has no effect on reducing inflation in fact it can have the opposite effect as with more money in your pocket, you may well force demand and thus fuel inflation further.
Also if lower fuel prices are having a big impact on inflation as an overall figure then the fact inflation has risen slightly suggests its countering bigger rises elsewhere.
Oh and you cant keep banging on about tarrifs bringing tax revenue in and also stating that once the trade deals remove tarrifs prices will come down trade and will be free!
Numpty Nutsack!
Tarriffs are a tax on importing goods which directly raises prices and is therefore inflationary - right?
But reducing income taxes has no effect on reducing inflation in fact it can have the opposite effect as with more money in your pocket, you may well force demand and thus fuel inflation further.
Also if lower fuel prices are having a big impact on inflation as an overall figure then the fact inflation has risen slightly suggests its countering bigger rises elsewhere.
Oh and you cant keep banging on about tarrifs bringing tax revenue in and also stating that once the trade deals remove tarrifs prices will come down trade and will be free!
Numpty Nutsack!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:34goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:24Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:14Yeah he took on China and all the other countries taking advantage of the USA taxpayer. Any hits will be temporary however so far even the hits still haven’t taken us above Bidenomics disastrous numbers. We’re still better off.
And read the article I posted on China’s dependence on the USA Petroleum products. There are no alternatives,
Interest rates are set by the Fed, Trump is calling for them to be reduced now but Powell is politicking, it’s no secret Trump is a Powell cynic and has been for ages.
So pipe down with your retarded TDS and sit back and watch him MAGA!
This time next year you’ll be pulling a Manuel. U til then we’re gonna have to continue to put up with you repeating the same old bollocks over and over again.Took on the world and made everything more expensive for everyone while overseeing the decline of manufacturing. Yeh well played![]()
Not to mention the trillions he’s adding to your debt.
So far you’ve had your credit rating downgraded, your growth forecast slashed and a panicked the bond market.
He’s making you poorer.Wait until the trade barriers are removed and the existing Tarriffs removed against American producers. I think you’ll find that won’t make the U S poorer you moron.
Also if Tarriffs are a tax that increases inflation then Trumps tax cuts in his big beautiful bill will reduce inflation. The big one is energy costs that have come way down, they are a big win in the reduction of inflation.
An increase in GDP and Tarriff revenue will offset the increase in spending, everything you have is edt wing propoganda that has been dead wrong on everything. Yet you still reference it like it’s the written word. You’re stuck on stupid. Where’s all this Stagflation you were banging on about?
Everything you’ve just waffled about is YOUR view of what will happen.
I posted what has happened already. Absolute facts.
Your opinion is great if that makes you happy but pretty much every economist, bank, hedge fund etc etc disagrees with you. Your own central bank disagrees with you. The IMF, the world bank, your own congressional budget office…….. they all disagree with you.
They've all FC a slowdown in growth because of tariffs, inflation through to Q1 2026 because of tariffs, higher debt levels because of this bill, less scope for interest rate cuts.
But I’m sure to you, they’re all fake news.
I posted what has happened already. Absolute facts.
Your opinion is great if that makes you happy but pretty much every economist, bank, hedge fund etc etc disagrees with you. Your own central bank disagrees with you. The IMF, the world bank, your own congressional budget office…….. they all disagree with you.
They've all FC a slowdown in growth because of tariffs, inflation through to Q1 2026 because of tariffs, higher debt levels because of this bill, less scope for interest rate cuts.
But I’m sure to you, they’re all fake news.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:24Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:14goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:02They were high, but instead of letting inflation continue to fall and continue the growth from Q4 he’s done the opposite. Inflation has gone back up and Q1 the economy went backwards.
For someone who needs borrowing costs to come down, he’s doing a good job of making the opposite happen.Yeah he took on China and all the other countries taking advantage of the USA taxpayer. Any hits will be temporary however so far even the hits still haven’t taken us above Bidenomics disastrous numbers. We’re still better off.
And read the article I posted on China’s dependence on the USA Petroleum products. There are no alternatives,
Interest rates are set by the Fed, Trump is calling for them to be reduced now but Powell is politicking, it’s no secret Trump is a Powell cynic and has been for ages.
So pipe down with your retarded TDS and sit back and watch him MAGA!
This time next year you’ll be pulling a Manuel. U til then we’re gonna have to continue to put up with you repeating the same old bollocks over and over again.Took on the world and made everything more expensive for everyone while overseeing the decline of manufacturing. Yeh well played![]()
Not to mention the trillions he’s adding to your debt.
So far you’ve had your credit rating downgraded, your growth forecast slashed and a panicked the bond market.
He’s making you poorer.
Wait until the trade barriers are removed and the existing Tarriffs removed against American producers. I think you’ll find that won’t make the U S poorer you moron.
Also if Tarriffs are a tax that increases inflation then Trumps tax cuts in his big beautiful bill will reduce inflation. The big one is energy costs that have come way down, they are a big win in the reduction of inflation.
An increase in GDP and Tarriff revenue will offset the increase in spending, everything you have is edt wing propoganda that has been dead wrong on everything. Yet you still reference it like it’s the written word. You’re stuck on stupid. Where’s all this Stagflation you were banging on about?
Also if Tarriffs are a tax that increases inflation then Trumps tax cuts in his big beautiful bill will reduce inflation. The big one is energy costs that have come way down, they are a big win in the reduction of inflation.
An increase in GDP and Tarriff revenue will offset the increase in spending, everything you have is edt wing propoganda that has been dead wrong on everything. Yet you still reference it like it’s the written word. You’re stuck on stupid. Where’s all this Stagflation you were banging on about?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
XKhammer wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:20goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 17:40Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 16:06Looks like WHO’s kiddy fiddling sympathizer is still reading left wing propaganda bollox.
No spike in inflation, forecasts of a recession all but disappeared from the debate, Can’t find a single Stagflationist anywhere. Funny how you stopped using the long word you didn’t understand as well.
China releasing rare Earths and paying 55% Tarriffs moving forward and opening some of its markett, Trade gap now practically non existent compared to what it was and an extra $22 Billion in the coffers.Expect even better news moving forward.
And all without any help from the Fed!
What an amazing win.
Remember Winners win, Losers complain.Unlike you I don’t feel the need to spam this thread up repeating the same thing over and over.
the World Bank literally just reduced the US (and global) growth forecast - blaming tariffs.
Inflation has gone up 3 months on the spin now and will only go in one direction while the input prices flush through. I reckon I've pointed this out to you about 10 times now.
You don't think Walmart have any grasp of their cost of goods?
which is a bigger number - £22bn or £100bn?
?????"l don't feel the need to spam up this thread up..."
Yes you do this and many others threads bore off !
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:14goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:02Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 17:59You repeat the same bollocks all the ducking time. What the fuck are you talking about?
When you add together all the Tarriffs that were levied against the USA that will go away after the new trade agreements are announced I think you’ll find the USA will come out way ahead.
As for Interest rates they were higher in Jan before Trump took office, so you’re talking bollocks yet again.They were high, but instead of letting inflation continue to fall and continue the growth from Q4 he’s done the opposite. Inflation has gone back up and Q1 the economy went backwards.
For someone who needs borrowing costs to come down, he’s doing a good job of making the opposite happen.Yeah he took on China and all the other countries taking advantage of the USA taxpayer. Any hits will be temporary however so far even the hits still haven’t taken us above Bidenomics disastrous numbers. We’re still better off.
And read the article I posted on China’s dependence on the USA Petroleum products. There are no alternatives,
Interest rates are set by the Fed, Trump is calling for them to be reduced now but Powell is politicking, it’s no secret Trump is a Powell cynic and has been for ages.
So pipe down with your retarded TDS and sit back and watch him MAGA!
This time next year you’ll be pulling a Manuel. U til then we’re gonna have to continue to put up with you repeating the same old bollocks over and over again.
Took on the world and made everything more expensive for everyone while overseeing the decline of manufacturing. Yeh well played
Not to mention the trillions he’s adding to your debt.
So far you’ve had your credit rating downgraded, your growth forecast slashed and a panicked the bond market.
He’s making you poorer.
Not to mention the trillions he’s adding to your debt.
So far you’ve had your credit rating downgraded, your growth forecast slashed and a panicked the bond market.
He’s making you poorer.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 17:40Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 16:06Looks like WHO’s kiddy fiddling sympathizer is still reading left wing propaganda bollox.
No spike in inflation, forecasts of a recession all but disappeared from the debate, Can’t find a single Stagflationist anywhere. Funny how you stopped using the long word you didn’t understand as well.
China releasing rare Earths and paying 55% Tarriffs moving forward and opening some of its markett, Trade gap now practically non existent compared to what it was and an extra $22 Billion in the coffers.Expect even better news moving forward.
And all without any help from the Fed!
What an amazing win.
Remember Winners win, Losers complain.Unlike you I don’t feel the need to spam this thread up repeating the same thing over and over.
the World Bank literally just reduced the US (and global) growth forecast - blaming tariffs.
Inflation has gone up 3 months on the spin now and will only go in one direction while the input prices flush through. I reckon I've pointed this out to you about 10 times now.
You don't think Walmart have any grasp of their cost of goods?
which is a bigger number - £22bn or £100bn?
?????"l don't feel the need to spam up this thread up..."
Yes you do this and many others threads bore off !
Yes you do this and many others threads bore off !
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 18:02Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 17:59goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 17:40Unlike you I don’t feel the need to spam this thread up repeating the same thing over and over.
the World Bank literally just reduced the US (and global) growth forecast - blaming tariffs.
Inflation has gone up 3 months on the spin now and will only go in one direction while the input prices flush through. I reckon I've pointed this out to you about 10 times now.
You don't think Walmart have any grasp of their cost of goods?
which is a bigger number - £22bn or £100bn?
You repeat the same bollocks all the ducking time. What the fuck are you talking about?
When you add together all the Tarriffs that were levied against the USA that will go away after the new trade agreements are announced I think you’ll find the USA will come out way ahead.
As for Interest rates they were higher in Jan before Trump took office, so you’re talking bollocks yet again.They were high, but instead of letting inflation continue to fall and continue the growth from Q4 he’s done the opposite. Inflation has gone back up and Q1 the economy went backwards.
For someone who needs borrowing costs to come down, he’s doing a good job of making the opposite happen.
Yeah he took on China and all the other countries taking advantage of the USA taxpayer. Any hits will be temporary however so far even the hits still haven’t taken us above Bidenomics disastrous numbers. We’re still better off.
And read the article I posted on China’s dependence on the USA Petroleum products. There are no alternatives,
Interest rates are set by the Fed, Trump is calling for them to be reduced now but Powell is politicking, it’s no secret Trump is a Powell cynic and has been for ages.
So pipe down with your retarded TDS and sit back and watch him MAGA!
This time next year you’ll be pulling a Manuel. U til then we’re gonna have to continue to put up with you repeating the same old bollocks over and over again.
And read the article I posted on China’s dependence on the USA Petroleum products. There are no alternatives,
Interest rates are set by the Fed, Trump is calling for them to be reduced now but Powell is politicking, it’s no secret Trump is a Powell cynic and has been for ages.
So pipe down with your retarded TDS and sit back and watch him MAGA!
This time next year you’ll be pulling a Manuel. U til then we’re gonna have to continue to put up with you repeating the same old bollocks over and over again.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 17:59goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 17:40Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 16:06Looks like WHO’s kiddy fiddling sympathizer is still reading left wing propaganda bollox.
No spike in inflation, forecasts of a recession all but disappeared from the debate, Can’t find a single Stagflationist anywhere. Funny how you stopped using the long word you didn’t understand as well.
China releasing rare Earths and paying 55% Tarriffs moving forward and opening some of its markett, Trade gap now practically non existent compared to what it was and an extra $22 Billion in the coffers.Expect even better news moving forward.
And all without any help from the Fed!
What an amazing win.
Remember Winners win, Losers complain.Unlike you I don’t feel the need to spam this thread up repeating the same thing over and over.
the World Bank literally just reduced the US (and global) growth forecast - blaming tariffs.
Inflation has gone up 3 months on the spin now and will only go in one direction while the input prices flush through. I reckon I've pointed this out to you about 10 times now.
You don't think Walmart have any grasp of their cost of goods?
which is a bigger number - £22bn or £100bn?
You repeat the same bollocks all the ducking time. What the fuck are you talking about?
When you add together all the Tarriffs that were levied against the USA that will go away after the new trade agreements are announced I think you’ll find the USA will come out way ahead.
As for Interest rates they were higher in Jan before Trump took office, so you’re talking bollocks yet again.
They were high, but instead of letting inflation continue to fall and continue the growth from Q4 he’s done the opposite. Inflation has gone back up and Q1 the economy went backwards.
For someone who needs borrowing costs to come down, he’s doing a good job of making the opposite happen.
For someone who needs borrowing costs to come down, he’s doing a good job of making the opposite happen.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 17:40Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 16:06Looks like WHO’s kiddy fiddling sympathizer is still reading left wing propaganda bollox.
No spike in inflation, forecasts of a recession all but disappeared from the debate, Can’t find a single Stagflationist anywhere. Funny how you stopped using the long word you didn’t understand as well.
China releasing rare Earths and paying 55% Tarriffs moving forward and opening some of its markett, Trade gap now practically non existent compared to what it was and an extra $22 Billion in the coffers.Expect even better news moving forward.
And all without any help from the Fed!
What an amazing win.
Remember Winners win, Losers complain.Unlike you I don’t feel the need to spam this thread up repeating the same thing over and over.
the World Bank literally just reduced the US (and global) growth forecast - blaming tariffs.
Inflation has gone up 3 months on the spin now and will only go in one direction while the input prices flush through. I reckon I've pointed this out to you about 10 times now.
You don't think Walmart have any grasp of their cost of goods?
which is a bigger number - £22bn or £100bn?
You repeat the same bollocks all the ducking time. What the fuck are you talking about?
When you add together all the Tarriffs that were levied against the USA that will go away after the new trade agreements are announced I think you’ll find the USA will come out way ahead.
As for Interest rates they were higher in Jan before Trump took office, so you’re talking bollocks yet again.
When you add together all the Tarriffs that were levied against the USA that will go away after the new trade agreements are announced I think you’ll find the USA will come out way ahead.
As for Interest rates they were higher in Jan before Trump took office, so you’re talking bollocks yet again.