Iran v Israel

[Collins Wong - A Free Man]

Israel struck Iran last night.

Iran hit back tonight.

Israel is bombing Iran now. 

Hope Iran wins, tbh. No more wars for Israel. 

[Massive Attack]

Meanwhile over at Gaza..



As suspected it's been Hamas causing the issues between the Gazans getting Aid and being killed by them. Sooner trust Kemps observations than those terrorist wankers who the weirdo left and luvvies would prefer to lap up their propaganda like moronic thickos. GENOcide my arse. 

[Massive Attack]

Trump has never been a warmonger, no matter how much the MSM and the left try to paint him out to be one. When he does rarely act, it's always targetted and swift. 

The only way that'll change is if someone pushes him in to one then he won't be afraid to take them head on which would be the wrong move for the Ayatollah.

[Lee Trundle]

Seems Trump is now unhappy with Israel and Iran for breaking the ceasefire.

I was in two minds about Trump, but beginning more to think that he does actually want peaceful resolutions rather than more wars.

When promoting the ceasefire though, perhaps someone could’ve mentioned to him that Israel have broken their ceasefire with the Lebanon over 50 times, whilst Lebanon have broken it zero.

I wonder how this one will pan out?

I think he's quite keen to be seen as someone who wasn't a warmonger.

However, Trump's always had a hard-on for going in on Iran.  Given the way they've acted, I'd probably be the same.

[WHU(Exeter)]

LT, that’s a fair point.

[WHU(Exeter)]

Seems Trump is now unhappy with Israel and Iran for breaking the ceasefire.

I was in two minds about Trump, but beginning more to think that he does actually want peaceful resolutions rather than more wars.

When promoting the ceasefire though, perhaps someone could’ve mentioned to him that Israel have broken their ceasefire with the Lebanon over 50 times, whilst Lebanon have broken it zero.

I wonder how this one will pan out?

[Lee Trundle]

Maybe any diplomatic efforts should be left to Britain?

 

Not for me.

[Massive Attack]

Hear, Hear Don!

[Swiss.]

I see now that China is sending Iran weapns the US and Israel have chickened out. Taking out pathetic Iraq is one thing. Iran is whole different kettle of fish. 

[Swiss.]

If I was Donald Id blow all the a..r..a.b.s and s nack bars into the eternal realm of noncery

No wonder Hollywood love the cunts

So you think Iran is full of Arab terrorists? 

Iran is Persian and not Arab, the attack on the church was by ISIS (they kill Christians for fun & virgins), I daresay it has nothing to do with Iran, more a warning to Syria which had large ISIS encampments.

The whole region could go up Shia v Sunni, btw ISIS is Sunni. 

Yes I know Persians are Ayran. In fact the craddle of the  Indo European people including us. I just wanted to test some of the ignorant cretins on here referring to them as Arabs. 

[Mike Oxsaw]

There was already a deal in place, whereas Iran was abiding by levels set by the US, Britain, Germany and others. Those levels were being verified by the IAEA and at the time the levels were being kept in check (according to the IAEA).

As evil as the Iranian regime might be, it was not them who reneged on that deal and Britain and Germany expressed their disappointment when the US tore it up.

Maybe any diplomatic efforts should be left to Britain?


 

Maybe Flat-Beer Kier can convince Iran to house all the illegals while we organise processing their applications to come and work ponce & live in the UK.

Two birds, one stoning.

[WHU(Exeter)]

There was already a deal in place, whereas Iran was abiding by levels set by the US, Britain, Germany and others. Those levels were being verified by the IAEA and at the time the levels were being kept in check (according to the IAEA).

As evil as the Iranian regime might be, it was not them who reneged on that deal and Britain and Germany expressed their disappointment when the US tore it up.

Maybe any diplomatic efforts should be left to Britain?

 

[Massive Attack]

Israel now claim Iran has violated ceasefire agreement but Iran are saying, nah man you're chatting shit innit... And so it goes on.

Trump did his bit flawlessly trying to make amends and destroy a lot of their nuclear capabilites, so it's out of his hands if a ceasefire has been broken and it causes them to go on.

In a way, if it has been broken, a part of me thinks it might just be for the best for it to escalate so they can take this Iran cսnt and his cronies out once and for all.

This is the Middle East, what did anyone honestly expect.

[Eerie Decent]

Nobody does peace like the Donald.

Ceasefire looking likely.

Gutted?

[nychammer]

if you can see the trucks on satellite surveillance you can see where they went on satellite surveillance. They didn't just disappear into thin air. 

There is always the risk enough survived below ground and that in time they could get back to it, but for now all seems positive. The best hope is that the Ayatollah is sent into Martyrdom to see the 100 Virgins awaiting him and sane heads take over.

[Massive Attack]

All seems far too straightforward, especially when it comes to the middle east. Something seems off, although if that is it then Trump (and Israel) have played yet another blinder just like back in his 1st term taking out their General Soleimani. 

I'm uneasy with all this uranium knocking about and the Iranian Government suspending the IAEA from future visits...

[Nutsin]

Right, what's he up too.. 
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrum ... 4153569653

An apparent ceasefire.

If It holds which it probably will you’ll have to give Trump a massive well done there!

world is a safer place. Gotta expect the Iranians to capitulate now on US inspections.

[Massive Attack]

Right, what's he up too.. 

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrum ... 4153569653

[riosleftsock]

Enriched uranium has quite a big radiation signature, it can be tracked remotely in the kind of quantities they are alleging.  The only way to prevent the gamma signature escaping is with huge quantities of lead encasement which is also relatively easy to detect

[Mike Oxsaw]

Been announced the Iran parliament are about to suspend the IAEA from coming in and assessing what they're doing with the uranium they've got stashed under all their Burkas. It suggests to me this situation will become untenable to the point it's now or never in putting a stop to it all. With the Israelis and the Yanks having come this far, they may as well continue to take out the regime. If they didn't want to do that then they wouldn't have collectively done what they just have. 

I suspect this is more of an information management process.

They don't want the world to know the current state of their nuclear program, whether it be, as Trump claims, "totally bullseyed", or they've actually managed to squirrel away enough refined Uranium to knock up a quick bomb and fire it at...well....have a guess.

Unless there had been an equivalent of a mad sale on at DFS buying and moving furniture in Fordow, I think it's highly likely they already shifted out the shit they needed to in anticipation of any potential attack..




The Yanks would have wanted that to be the case anyways as they didn't want a nuclear leak hitting it with their bunker bombs. The sticking point now is they're going to struggle to keep surveillance on that for too long and how long it'll take them to get it up ans running again but this time with zero Watchdog overlooking it. 

The Yanks are caught in a bit of a position now where they probably have to put all their chips in as the Iranians aint going to entertain any cսnt from here on in monitoring their uranium production. I think Trump knew that when they dropped the bombs on the weekend, diplomacy isn't going to be a realistic option with the ragheads closing ranks now.

You're probably right on that one.

If they ship it out in a suitcase and leave at the left luggage bureau at Tehran Central Station for someone to collect later, it'll trigger all sorts of alarms globally.

That being said, I'm not convinced that the upper echelons of the Iranian (or, indeed any) regime understand uranium beyond once having a watch with a luminous dial giving them the power to tell the time when the sundial stops working, so it may well be lying somewhere "inconspicuous" in a single use plastic carrier bag..

[Massive Attack]

Been announced the Iran parliament are about to suspend the IAEA from coming in and assessing what they're doing with the uranium they've got stashed under all their Burkas. It suggests to me this situation will become untenable to the point it's now or never in putting a stop to it all. With the Israelis and the Yanks having come this far, they may as well continue to take out the regime. If they didn't want to do that then they wouldn't have collectively done what they just have. 

I suspect this is more of an information management process.

They don't want the world to know the current state of their nuclear program, whether it be, as Trump claims, "totally bullseyed", or they've actually managed to squirrel away enough refined Uranium to knock up a quick bomb and fire it at...well....have a guess.

Unless there had been an equivalent of a mad sale on at DFS buying and moving furniture in Fordow, I think it's highly likely they already shifted out the shit they needed to in anticipation of any potential attack..




The Yanks would have wanted that to be the case anyways as they didn't want a nuclear leak hitting it with their bunker bombs. The sticking point now is they're going to struggle to keep surveillance on that for too long and how long it'll take them to get it up ans running again but this time with zero Watchdog overlooking it. 

The Yanks are caught in a bit of a position now where they probably have to put all their chips in as the Iranians aint going to entertain any cսnt from here on in monitoring their uranium production. I think Trump knew that when they dropped the bombs on the weekend, diplomacy isn't going to be a realistic option with the ragheads closing ranks now.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Been announced the Iran parliament are about to suspend the IAEA from coming in and assessing what they're doing with the uranium they've got stashed under all their Burkas. It suggests to me this situation will become untenable to the point it's now or never in putting a stop to it all. With the Israelis and the Yanks having come this far, they may as well continue to take out the regime. If they didn't want to do that then they wouldn't have collectively done what they just have. 

I suspect this is more of an information management process.

They don't want the world to know the current state of their nuclear program, whether it be, as Trump claims, "totally bullseyed", or they've actually managed to squirrel away enough refined Uranium to knock up a quick bomb and fire it at...well....have a guess.

[Massive Attack]

Been announced the Iran parliament are about to suspend the IAEA from coming in and assessing what they're doing with the uranium they've got stashed under all their Burkas. It suggests to me this situation will become untenable to the point it's now or never in putting a stop to it all. With the Israelis and the Yanks having come this far, they may as well continue to take out the regime. If they didn't want to do that then they wouldn't have collectively done what they just have. 

[Massive Attack]

Sure, however unlike the US attack on Iran which was surgically targetted on solely nuclear production facilities, these ballistic missiles were heading towards a US Military base whilst also flying over another Countries civvy Air Space in doing so. Relying on a third parties defence system to take them all out was a high stakes gamble and one the US didn't resort to doing any of the like on the weekend.

The Yanks could be justified to retaliate now as an act of war and maybe what Trump and Co had banked on so to have good reason now to take out the regime. Could well be wrong but that's just my feeling on it. 

[Mike Oxsaw]

Iran warned the Yanks ahead of the attack so it's just a bit of theatre rather than a serious threat.

That's relying on every single missile being taken out before it reaches a target. No one could guarantee that so the threat is very real and risky. 

But Alfs has introduced an interesting fork in the road.

All the missiles could have been unarmed duds programmed to hit "nearby sand dunes" rather than any specific target in Qatar.

Iran had to be seen to be "doing something" in retaliation to the American strike as there's nothing politicians & diplomats like more than being seen to be doing something, even if it's of no value whatsoever, rather than losing face by appearing cowed into doing nothing.

I still feel that the firebrand rhetoric is what will fuck them up though, even if they stop lobbing munitions about.

The problem is that the desire to erase Israel & it's people is so embedded into the Iranian psyche that a complete regime change is probably the only viable option, and even that is high risk...unless, perhaps, the new administration is 100% female/trans....

[Massive Attack]

Iran warned the Yanks ahead of the attack so it's just a bit of theatre rather than a serious threat.

That's relying on every single missile being taken out before it reaches a target. No one could guarantee that so the threat is very real and risky.