The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Nutsin]

I have three questions for you:
1. Trump introduced tariffs on washing machines in his first term, how did it work out?
2. Did you actually read what GE said about this investment? In particular why they’re moving and when they started this plan.
3. The real benchmark is going to be GDP growth, if it’s less than the Biden administration would you agree that equals failure?

No, GDP growth would be a part of it, but you can’t ignore the $88 Billion and climbing Tarriff revenue numbers, the deficits, Inflation, wage growth and standard of living, 

$30 Trillion in GDP with no income growth and high inflation does not equate to a good economy. That’s what Bidenomics gave us, it was not a good economy for the middle class, which is a big reason why he loss.

However once the trade agreements are sorted and Trumps big beautiful Bill is passed I do expect to see an increase in US GDP, a robust jobs market, lower inflation  and higher wages. That will increase the standard of living and will help pull more people out of poverty. 

So it’s not just one metric but if I had to choose one I’d say Standard of living for the middle and lower class is what counts most.

[goose]

I have three questions for you:
1. Trump introduced tariffs on washing machines in his first term, how did it work out?
2. Did you actually read what GE said about this investment? In particular why they’re moving and when they started this plan.
3. The real benchmark is going to be GDP growth, if it’s less than the Biden administration would you agree that equals failure?

[goose]

That's not necessarily the case. The price of Adidas or Nike goods may go up (or may not), but US-made alternatives will become more competitive.

If mad fuckers want to pay over the odds for fashion footwear, it's up to them. Nobody complains that Ferraris are a bit pricey, do they?

 

Nike & Adidas have both said they’re putting up prices because of tariffs.

Less than 1% of the trainers sold in the USA are manufactured there. There are no US alternatives. Nobody of any size or scale is manufacturing trainers in the USA. 

Well now is the chance for US manufacturers and those from perhaps the UK and other low-tariff places to sell some shoes that don't rely on slave labour

Which ones are you talking about? European manufactured brands are already more expensive and US ones don’t exist.
So you’re asking the US consumer to buy more expensive European manufactured brands or the more expensive Nike/Adidas.

whichever way, your trainers are now more expensive.

[Nutsin]

Do you actually read this stuff before posting it?
Nike said tariffs will add $1bn to it's costs this year. An extra $1bn passed on to customers.

They are not moving production from China to the US, they are moving it to other Far East countries.
It's just a tax making your goods more expensive.

Adidas said the same thing a few weeks ago:
""Since we currently cannot produce almost any of our products in the US, these higher tariffs will eventually cause higher costs for all our products for the US market," chief executive Bjorn Gulden said.

why are you celebrating retail prices going up?

That's not necessarily the case. The price of Adidas or Nike goods may go up (or may not), but US-made alternatives will become more competitive.

If mad fuckers want to pay over the odds for fashion footwear, it's up to them. Nobody complains that Ferraris are a bit pricey, do they?

 

Nike & Adidas have both said they’re putting up prices because of tariffs.

Less than 1% of the trainers sold in the USA are manufactured there. There are no US alternatives. Nobody of any size or scale is manufacturing trainers in the USA. 

What a Day for the Donald!

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Do you actually read this stuff before posting it?
Nike said tariffs will add $1bn to it's costs this year. An extra $1bn passed on to customers.

They are not moving production from China to the US, they are moving it to other Far East countries.
It's just a tax making your goods more expensive.

Adidas said the same thing a few weeks ago:
""Since we currently cannot produce almost any of our products in the US, these higher tariffs will eventually cause higher costs for all our products for the US market," chief executive Bjorn Gulden said.

why are you celebrating retail prices going up?

That's not necessarily the case. The price of Adidas or Nike goods may go up (or may not), but US-made alternatives will become more competitive.

If mad fuckers want to pay over the odds for fashion footwear, it's up to them. Nobody complains that Ferraris are a bit pricey, do they?

 

Nike & Adidas have both said they’re putting up prices because of tariffs.

Less than 1% of the trainers sold in the USA are manufactured there. There are no US alternatives. Nobody of any size or scale is manufacturing trainers in the USA. 

Well now is the chance for US manufacturers and those from perhaps the UK and other low-tariff places to sell some shoes that don't rely on slave labour

[Eerie Decent]

Trump is smashing it.

Go on the boy!

[Nutsin]

[goose]

Do you actually read this stuff before posting it?
Nike said tariffs will add $1bn to it's costs this year. An extra $1bn passed on to customers.

They are not moving production from China to the US, they are moving it to other Far East countries.
It's just a tax making your goods more expensive.

Adidas said the same thing a few weeks ago:
""Since we currently cannot produce almost any of our products in the US, these higher tariffs will eventually cause higher costs for all our products for the US market," chief executive Bjorn Gulden said.

why are you celebrating retail prices going up?

That's not necessarily the case. The price of Adidas or Nike goods may go up (or may not), but US-made alternatives will become more competitive.

If mad fuckers want to pay over the odds for fashion footwear, it's up to them. Nobody complains that Ferraris are a bit pricey, do they?

 

 

Nike & Adidas have both said they’re putting up prices because of tariffs.

Less than 1% of the trainers sold in the USA are manufactured there. There are no US alternatives. Nobody of any size or scale is manufacturing trainers in the USA. 

[Nutsin]

[Nutsin]

I hope he ( Trump) eventually wins the noble peace prize. The meltdown from the idiots on the left will be fucking biblical.

Speaking of the Donald, did anyone see that utter cսnt AOC pushing for him to be impeached for bombing the Iranians without first consulting Congress. She's since shut up so I'm guessing that someone must have told her that Obhama dropped more than 26,000 bombs in seven different countries without muttering a word to Congress.
Honestly, the stupidity of the libs is endless.

You think AOC is bad wait till you get a load of their new champion Jasmine Crockett ffs.

It’s as if they are deliberately trying to lose.

Gotta laugh at these fuckwits.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Do you actually read this stuff before posting it?
Nike said tariffs will add $1bn to it's costs this year. An extra $1bn passed on to customers.

They are not moving production from China to the US, they are moving it to other Far East countries.
It's just a tax making your goods more expensive.

Adidas said the same thing a few weeks ago:
""Since we currently cannot produce almost any of our products in the US, these higher tariffs will eventually cause higher costs for all our products for the US market," chief executive Bjorn Gulden said.

why are you celebrating retail prices going up?

That's not necessarily the case. The price of Adidas or Nike goods may go up (or may not), but US-made alternatives will become more competitive.

If mad fuckers want to pay over the odds for fashion footwear, it's up to them. Nobody complains that Ferraris are a bit pricey, do they?

[only1billybonds]

I hope he ( Trump) eventually wins the noble peace prize. The meltdown from the idiots on the left will be fucking biblical.

Speaking of the Donald, did anyone see that utter cսnt AOC pushing for him to be impeached for bombing the Iranians without first consulting Congress. She's since shut up so I'm guessing that someone must have told her that Obhama dropped more than 26,000 bombs in seven different countries without muttering a word to Congress.
Honestly, the stupidity of the libs is endless.

[Massive Attack]

Trumps had an amazing week as President and his best yet.

- Sorting out Irans nuclear immediate ambitions 
- Resolving a war that could have escalated immediately 
- Supreme Court ruling
- Congo/Rwanda agreement
- Huge win regarding NATO getting them to pay their way
- Embarrassing the agenda driven liberals in the Media and putting them firmly in their place

All huge wins for him in their own right and great towards peace in the world and the Countries they involve. And it's still only Friday! In fact what he's achieved within the space of 6 months is remarkable and at break neck speed the moment he was President again. And he does it all with charm and humour that on sometimes genuinely cracks me up. That Fuck moment was legendary and actually had the desired effect!

I think when the history books are written in the long term, they'll hold Trump up as 1 of the best Presidents in modern times, if not longer. He was exactly what the world needed at just the right time. 

He'll always have his faults but his heart is always in the right place. 

[BillyJenningsBoots]

What an amazing week of winning!

 

And if that is the case you  can wave goodbye to the US constitution. How anyone with a brain can think this is a step in the right direction is baffling! Then again it is Agent Nutsack Nazi sympathiser!

You might as well bin off Congress - your supreme leader thinks he is Emporer Palpatine and Trump will be hoping to avoid impeachment but we all know how that went!

[Nutsin]

What an amazing week of winning!

[Nutsin]

[goose]

Do you actually read this stuff before posting it?
Nike said tariffs will add $1bn to it's costs this year. An extra $1bn passed on to customers.

They are not moving production from China to the US, they are moving it to other Far East countries.
It's just a tax making your goods more expensive.

Adidas said the same thing a few weeks ago:
""Since we currently cannot produce almost any of our products in the US, these higher tariffs will eventually cause higher costs for all our products for the US market," chief executive Bjorn Gulden said.

why are you celebrating retail prices going up?

[Nutsin]

[nerd2]

Must have been the Irish before 2000 then , preferred that mob way more prolific then go out there way to train the Muslims. Do love stats 75% of them are made up haha

[Nutsin]

[Rubble again]

Are you referring to Trump and China or Goose and Nutsin?
 

[Massive Attack]

Basically what we have is two cunts who have been fighting for so long and so hard, that they don't know what the fuck they're doing!

[goose]

Flaws in my argument, you mean the ones that are constantly proven to be correct.

You can keep looking for a narrative while Trump continues to notch up the wins.

Lower inflation, Including lower egg prices.

Thousands of kids saved from Biden’s sex trafficking scandal

Secure borders

End of DEI

The fast clip of Deportations of the illegals and criminals

His use of the National Guard and Military to put Antifa in their place.

peace between India and Pakistan, Israel and Iran and Congo and Rwanda. Trump now Nominated for the Noble Peace prize.

Knocked out Irans nuclear ambitions.

Has brought in over $10 Trillion in new investments into the USA.

New plants and factories being built en masse in the USA as we speak.

Has slapped the NATO members into place to pay 5% of GDP. Peace through strength.

Billions in the Treasuries coffers with new Tariffs revenue

Slashed Hundreds of Billions in wasteful and corrupt spending of tax payer money. (DOGE)

Oil prices down.

Men banned from playing women’s sports

You can expect the Trump admin to replenish the petroleum reserve that Biden drained.

Trump’s big new beautiful bill that provides tax cuts to those on social security, that work overtime and that earn tips. Will add a major boost to the USA’s GDP.

New trade deals where the unfair practice of Tariffs being levied against the USA and trade barriers are removed. Creating more open markets and fair trade to all including the USA markets.


Yeah so much to dislike. 


MAGA where winners win!

It’s fast becoming the time where you stop bloviating surely.

Aside from inflation, the rest of your love affair with a proven sexual abuser is nothing to do with tariffs.

and what you posted was wrong, inflation isn’t down. Since tariffs were introduced it’s ticked back up.
manufacturing output has gone down
so have manufacturing jobs
input costs have gone up
those are facts.

as of now you have 1 (one) trade deal with the U.K.

Blah blah blah!

facts
facts
facts

[Nutsin]

I’m sorry did I hurt your feelings by pointing out the obvious? He put these tariffs in place and when the bond market shit its pants he was forced to back down.

the art of the deal? That July deadline is fast approaching and he’s agreed 1? deal with the desperate Starmer.

pointing out the flaws in your argument isn’t defending the Chinese, they’re just facts.

10/10 for the melodrama again though.
who exactly is ‘they’ that tried to assassinate him?  

Flaws in my argument, you mean the ones that are constantly proven to be correct.

You can keep looking for a narrative while Trump continues to notch up the wins.

Lower inflation, Including lower egg prices.

Thousands of kids saved from Biden’s sex trafficking scandal

Secure borders

End of DEI

The fast clip of Deportations of the illegals and criminals

His use of the National Guard and Military to put Antifa in their place.

peace between India and Pakistan, Israel and Iran and Congo and Rwanda. Trump now Nominated for the Noble Peace prize.

Knocked out Irans nuclear ambitions.

Has brought in over $10 Trillion in new investments into the USA.

New plants and factories being built en masse in the USA as we speak.

Has slapped the NATO members into place to pay 5% of GDP. Peace through strength.

Billions in the Treasuries coffers with new Tariffs revenue

Slashed Hundreds of Billions in wasteful and corrupt spending of tax payer money. (DOGE)

Oil prices down.

Men banned from playing women’s sports

You can expect the Trump admin to replenish the petroleum reserve that Biden drained.

Trump’s big new beautiful bill that provides tax cuts to those on social security, that work overtime and that earn tips. Will add a major boost to the USA’s GDP.

New trade deals where the unfair practice of Tariffs being levied against the USA and trade barriers are removed. Creating more open markets and fair trade to all including the USA markets.


Yeah so much to dislike. 


MAGA where winners win!

It’s fast becoming the time where you stop bloviating surely.

Aside from inflation, the rest of your love affair with a proven sexual abuser is nothing to do with tariffs.

and what you posted was wrong, inflation isn’t down. Since tariffs were introduced it’s ticked back up.
manufacturing output has gone down
so have manufacturing jobs
input costs have gone up
those are facts.

as of now you have 1 (one) trade deal with the U.K.

Blah blah blah!

[goose]

You’ve been defended China from day one just like you’ve been defending the kiddy fiddlers. 

Don’t deny it, It’s all over the thread.

Trump chickened out lol,  you silly wanker. They have tried to assasinate him twice, Impeached him twice and tried to bankrupt him and throw him in jail and he is still standing. Yeah he’s a real chicken….. You realize how stupid you sound yet?

It’s always been the art of the deal, he has never been rigid on anything he’s negotiated. Which is common sense ffs. Thank fuck your not in charge, you obviously have never closed a deal in your life. 

I’m sorry did I hurt your feelings by pointing out the obvious? He put these tariffs in place and when the bond market shit its pants he was forced to back down.

the art of the deal? That July deadline is fast approaching and he’s agreed 1? deal with the desperate Starmer.

pointing out the flaws in your argument isn’t defending the Chinese, they’re just facts.

10/10 for the melodrama again though.
who exactly is ‘they’ that tried to assassinate him?  

Flaws in my argument, you mean the ones that are constantly proven to be correct.

You can keep looking for a narrative while Trump continues to notch up the wins.

Lower inflation, Including lower egg prices.

Thousands of kids saved from Biden’s sex trafficking scandal

Secure borders

End of DEI

The fast clip of Deportations of the illegals and criminals

His use of the National Guard and Military to put Antifa in their place.

peace between India and Pakistan, Israel and Iran and Congo and Rwanda. Trump now Nominated for the Noble Peace prize.

Knocked out Irans nuclear ambitions.

Has brought in over $10 Trillion in new investments into the USA.

New plants and factories being built en masse in the USA as we speak.

Has slapped the NATO members into place to pay 5% of GDP. Peace through strength.

Billions in the Treasuries coffers with new Tariffs revenue

Slashed Hundreds of Billions in wasteful and corrupt spending of tax payer money. (DOGE)

Oil prices down.

Men banned from playing women’s sports

You can expect the Trump admin to replenish the petroleum reserve that Biden drained.

Trump’s big new beautiful bill that provides tax cuts to those on social security, that work overtime and that earn tips. Will add a major boost to the USA’s GDP.

New trade deals where the unfair practice of Tariffs being levied against the USA and trade barriers are removed. Creating more open markets and fair trade to all including the USA markets.


Yeah so much to dislike. 


MAGA where winners win!

It’s fast becoming the time where you stop bloviating surely.

Aside from inflation, the rest of your love affair with a proven sexual abuser is nothing to do with tariffs.

and what you posted was wrong, inflation isn’t down. Since tariffs were introduced it’s ticked back up.
manufacturing output has gone down
so have manufacturing jobs
input costs have gone up
those are facts.

as of now you have 1 (one) trade deal with the U.K.