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[Come On You Irons]

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[Nutsin]

lol 
kangaroo court
bent judge
bent jury
bent appeal 
bent judicial system 

and everyone else is gullible  

Russian collusion hoax started by Obama with NO credible evidence. In fact all evidence showed the contrary however that evidence was hidden till recently. Wonder why?


Hunters laptop is Russian disinformation.

court case from some old bint who couldn’t remember what year it happened but was somewhere around 30 years ago, however only decided to come forward before the election.

Going after him for a valuation of his mar a lago property when any lending institution in the country can verify its value and WILL use their verified value for a loan.

Interesting that since Leticia James was caught red handed signing a loan application lying that the property was her Primary residence when it wasn’t. The very definition of mortgage fraud. She also refi’d a property as 4 units instead of 5 units. Again mortgage fraud. 4 units is the limit for Residential lending, 5 units plus makes it a commercial loan, much more detailed, higher closing costs and higher interest rates on commercial financing. 

She is caught bang to rights and after the financial collapse of 2008 which was brought on by mortgage fraud means mortgage fraud is a big deal in today’s world. Funny that!

Asam Schiff was kicked off the intelligence committee for blatantly lying about Trump and Russia collusion, who is also under investigation for calling a rental property in Virginia his Primary Residence when he lived in Cali. Again mortgage fraud.


How many times have they gone after people with women. Stormy Daniels bollox and let’s not forget the Kavanaugh nonsense which oddly enough had a different bint making up shit from years back who couldn’t remember exactly what year it happened, 

Its the same old continuous play book bollocks and it’s obvious.

Gullible mugs!

Some fantastic whataboutism there Nutsin son.
Do you think the jury was in on this conspiracy?

Goose remember when your boy Joe Scarborough said Joe Biden was as sharp as a tac? Lol!

And then CNN ran with it! Ag ag ag !

[goose]

lol 
kangaroo court
bent judge
bent jury
bent appeal 
bent judicial system 

and everyone else is gullible  

Russian collusion hoax started by Obama with NO credible evidence. In fact all evidence showed the contrary however that evidence was hidden till recently. Wonder why?


Hunters laptop is Russian disinformation.

court case from some old bint who couldn’t remember what year it happened but was somewhere around 30 years ago, however only decided to come forward before the election.

Going after him for a valuation of his mar a lago property when any lending institution in the country can verify its value and WILL use their verified value for a loan.

Interesting that since Leticia James was caught red handed signing a loan application lying that the property was her Primary residence when it wasn’t. The very definition of mortgage fraud. She also refi’d a property as 4 units instead of 5 units. Again mortgage fraud. 4 units is the limit for Residential lending, 5 units plus makes it a commercial loan, much more detailed, higher closing costs and higher interest rates on commercial financing. 

She is caught bang to rights and after the financial collapse of 2008 which was brought on by mortgage fraud means mortgage fraud is a big deal in today’s world. Funny that!

Asam Schiff was kicked off the intelligence committee for blatantly lying about Trump and Russia collusion, who is also under investigation for calling a rental property in Virginia his Primary Residence when he lived in Cali. Again mortgage fraud.


How many times have they gone after people with women. Stormy Daniels bollox and let’s not forget the Kavanaugh nonsense which oddly enough had a different bint making up shit from years back who couldn’t remember exactly what year it happened, 

Its the same old continuous play book bollocks and it’s obvious.

Gullible mugs!

Some fantastic whataboutism there Nutsin son.
Do you think the jury was in on this conspiracy?

[Nutsin]

lol 
kangaroo court
bent judge
bent jury
bent appeal 
bent judicial system 

and everyone else is gullible  

Russian collusion hoax started by Obama with NO credible evidence. In fact all evidence showed the contrary however that evidence was hidden till recently. Wonder why?


Hunters laptop is Russian disinformation.

court case from some old bint who couldn’t remember what year it happened but was somewhere around 30 years ago, however only decided to come forward before the election.

Going after him for a valuation of his mar a lago property when any lending institution in the country can verify its value and WILL use their verified value for a loan.

Interesting that since Leticia James was caught red handed signing a loan application lying that the property was her Primary residence when it wasn’t. The very definition of mortgage fraud. She also refi’d a property as 4 units instead of 5 units. Again mortgage fraud. 4 units is the limit for Residential lending, 5 units plus makes it a commercial loan, much more detailed, higher closing costs and higher interest rates on commercial financing. 

She is caught bang to rights and after the financial collapse of 2008 which was brought on by mortgage fraud means mortgage fraud is a big deal in today’s world. Funny that!

Asam Schiff was kicked off the intelligence committee for blatantly lying about Trump and Russia collusion, who is also under investigation for calling a rental property in Virginia his Primary Residence when he lived in Cali. Again mortgage fraud.


How many times have they gone after people with women. Stormy Daniels bollox and let’s not forget the Kavanaugh nonsense which oddly enough had a different bint making up shit from years back who couldn’t remember exactly what year it happened, 

Its the same old continuous play book bollocks and it’s obvious.

Gullible mugs!

[goose]

lol 
kangaroo court
bent judge
bent jury
bent appeal 
bent judicial system 

and everyone else is gullible  

[Nutsin]

Yeh the judge, the jury and the judges who looked at the appeal were all bent.
and if you believe that you’ll believe in anything.

Legitimate court
jury of citizens 
refused to testify
lawful civil proceedings 

guilty.
proven abuser of women so should be castrated.
glad we’ve cleared that up.

Everyone and their grandmother knows that Trump will never get a fair trial in New York, which is why the Dems continue to have court cases against him there.

Please don’t pretend that this is not the case.

she didn’t even know what year the apparent crime took place ffs, so Trump couldn’t bring forward any alibi.

And it was a civil court where the benchmark for a guilty is much easier than it would be in a criminal court.


It was a kangaroo court, designed to tarnish his reputation to hurt his chances of winning the Presidency.


And we all know why they were so out to get him now don’t we?

Obama’s dirty little conspiracy to commit treason against a duly elected president has now been exposed. 

All those years of fake narrative, putting the country through hell because of Obama’s dirty little secret. 

Don’t be surprised if there are more cover ups and crimes committed along the way to keep the cover up hidden. Looks like they have Brennan for lying to Congress, that’s jail time right there. I wonder if he’ll take the rap or if he’ll sing?

 

Classic use of Trump tactics there Nutstain.. defending his rape and abuse of women by talking about the non-story that is Obama's dirty tricks which are well outside the statute of limitations by now. Oh and it wasnt treason before you try and say it was.

First off the Obamana conspiracy started this whole continuous witch hunt.

Perhaps if the witch hunt wasn’t so obvious there’d be a bit more credence to your argument. However knowing what we know now you HAVE to call in ti question everything the Dems have thrown at Trump in an attempt to cover up Obama’s Treason.

so blame Obama for any skepticism.

How many lies do we have to catch the Dems in before the penny drops ffs!

The ghost of Pickle and Goise are two of the most gullible cunts on WHO.

Goose will believe anything the liberal media tells him, it’s actually quite funny!

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Yes, I absolutely agree. 

Now go educate yourself and look up what a kangaroo court is.

Yeh the judge, the jury and the judges who looked at the appeal were all bent.
and if you believe that you’ll believe in anything.

Legitimate court
jury of citizens 
refused to testify
lawful civil proceedings 

guilty.
proven abuser of women so should be castrated.
glad we’ve cleared that up.

Everyone and their grandmother knows that Trump will never get a fair trial in New York, which is why the Dems continue to have court cases against him there.

Please don’t pretend that this is not the case.

she didn’t even know what year the apparent crime took place ffs, so Trump couldn’t bring forward any alibi.

And it was a civil court where the benchmark for a guilty is much easier than it would be in a criminal court.


It was a kangaroo court, designed to tarnish his reputation to hurt his chances of winning the Presidency.


And we all know why they were so out to get him now don’t we?

Obama’s dirty little conspiracy to commit treason against a duly elected president has now been exposed. 

All those years of fake narrative, putting the country through hell because of Obama’s dirty little secret. 

Don’t be surprised if there are more cover ups and crimes committed along the way to keep the cover up hidden. Looks like they have Brennan for lying to Congress, that’s jail time right there. I wonder if he’ll take the rap or if he’ll sing?

 

 

Classic use of Trump tactics there Nutstain.. defending his rape and abuse of women by talking about the non-story that is Obama's dirty tricks which are well outside the statute of limitations by now. Oh and it wasnt treason before you try and say it was.

[goose]

Yes, I absolutely agree. 

Now go educate yourself and look up what a kangaroo court is.

Yeh the judge, the jury and the judges who looked at the appeal were all bent.
and if you believe that you’ll believe in anything.

Legitimate court
jury of citizens 
refused to testify
lawful civil proceedings 

guilty.
proven abuser of women so should be castrated.
glad we’ve cleared that up.

Everyone and their grandmother knows that Trump will never get a fair trial in New York, which is why the Dems continue to have court cases against him there.

Please don’t pretend that this is not the case.

she didn’t even know what year the apparent crime took place ffs, so Trump couldn’t bring forward any alibi.

And it was a civil court where the benchmark for a guilty is much easier than it would be in a criminal court.


It was a kangaroo court, designed to tarnish his reputation to hurt his chances of winning the Presidency.


And we all know why they were so out to get him now don’t we?

Obama’s dirty little conspiracy to commit treason against a duly elected president has now been exposed. 

All those years of fake narrative, putting the country through hell because of Obama’s dirty little secret. 

Don’t be surprised if there are more cover ups and crimes committed along the way to keep the cover up hidden. Looks like they have Brennan for lying to Congress, that’s jail time right there. I wonder if he’ll take the rap or if he’ll sing?

And you think every one of the jurors was in on this big conspiracy as well?

take your head out the sand.

proven sexual abuser of women.
castrate the sicko.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

He could have sexually assaulted that woman right under your nose and you wouldn’t accept it.
Proven in court by a jury of average people and then upheld on appeal.

Proven sexual abuser of women and you still try & find excuses for him.

I’d happily see all proven rapists and sexual abusers castrated, wouldn’t you agree??

Yes, I absolutely agree. 

Now go educate yourself and look up what a kangaroo court is.

Yeh the judge, the jury and the judges who looked at the appeal were all bent.
and if you believe that you’ll believe in anything.

Legitimate court
jury of citizens 
refused to testify
lawful civil proceedings 

guilty.
proven abuser of women so should be castrated.
glad we’ve cleared that up.

 

 

 

 

[Nutsin]

He could have sexually assaulted that woman right under your nose and you wouldn’t accept it.
Proven in court by a jury of average people and then upheld on appeal.

Proven sexual abuser of women and you still try & find excuses for him.

I’d happily see all proven rapists and sexual abusers castrated, wouldn’t you agree??

Yes, I absolutely agree. 

Now go educate yourself and look up what a kangaroo court is.

Yeh the judge, the jury and the judges who looked at the appeal were all bent.
and if you believe that you’ll believe in anything.

Legitimate court
jury of citizens 
refused to testify
lawful civil proceedings 

guilty.
proven abuser of women so should be castrated.
glad we’ve cleared that up.

Everyone and their grandmother knows that Trump will never get a fair trial in New York, which is why the Dems continue to have court cases against him there.

Please don’t pretend that this is not the case.

she didn’t even know what year the apparent crime took place ffs, so Trump couldn’t bring forward any alibi.

And it was a civil court where the benchmark for a guilty is much easier than it would be in a criminal court.


It was a kangaroo court, designed to tarnish his reputation to hurt his chances of winning the Presidency.


And we all know why they were so out to get him now don’t we?

Obama’s dirty little conspiracy to commit treason against a duly elected president has now been exposed. 

All those years of fake narrative, putting the country through hell because of Obama’s dirty little secret. 

Don’t be surprised if there are more cover ups and crimes committed along the way to keep the cover up hidden. Looks like they have Brennan for lying to Congress, that’s jail time right there. I wonder if he’ll take the rap or if he’ll sing?

[goose]

I am still well up for chemical castration. Stop making shit up.

Still having difficulty in understanding what a kangaroo court is I see. 


Why don’t you tell us all how the sky is falling again?

He could have sexually assaulted that woman right under your nose and you wouldn’t accept it.
Proven in court by a jury of average people and then upheld on appeal.

Proven sexual abuser of women and you still try & find excuses for him.

I’d happily see all proven rapists and sexual abusers castrated, wouldn’t you agree??

Yes, I absolutely agree. 

Now go educate yourself and look up what a kangaroo court is.

Yeh the judge, the jury and the judges who looked at the appeal were all bent.
and if you believe that you’ll believe in anything.

Legitimate court
jury of citizens 
refused to testify
lawful civil proceedings 

guilty.
proven abuser of women so should be castrated.
glad we’ve cleared that up.

[Nutsin]

He doesn’t rape women, he only sexually abuses them - which Nutsin is totally fine with.

Nutsin was well up for implementing the idea in Italy of chemical castration until he learned it might include sexual abusers as well rapists. Then he u-turned quicker than Starmer.

I am still well up for chemical castration. Stop making shit up.

Still having difficulty in understanding what a kangaroo court is I see. 


Why don’t you tell us all how the sky is falling again?

He could have sexually assaulted that woman right under your nose and you wouldn’t accept it.
Proven in court by a jury of average people and then upheld on appeal.

Proven sexual abuser of women and you still try & find excuses for him.

I’d happily see all proven rapists and sexual abusers castrated, wouldn’t you agree??

Yes, I absolutely agree. 

Now go educate yourself and look up what a kangaroo court is.

[goose]

He doesn’t rape women, he only sexually abuses them - which Nutsin is totally fine with.

Nutsin was well up for implementing the idea in Italy of chemical castration until he learned it might include sexual abusers as well rapists. Then he u-turned quicker than Starmer.

I am still well up for chemical castration. Stop making shit up.

Still having difficulty in understanding what a kangaroo court is I see. 


Why don’t you tell us all how the sky is falling again?

He could have sexually assaulted that woman right under your nose and you wouldn’t accept it.
Proven in court by a jury of average people and then upheld on appeal.

Proven sexual abuser of women and you still try & find excuses for him.

I’d happily see all proven rapists and sexual abusers castrated, wouldn’t you agree??

[Nutsin]

He doesn’t rape women, he only sexually abuses them - which Nutsin is totally fine with.

Nutsin was well up for implementing the idea in Italy of chemical castration until he learned it might include sexual abusers as well rapists. Then he u-turned quicker than Starmer.

I am still well up for chemical castration. Stop making shit up.

Still having difficulty in understanding what a kangaroo court is I see. 


Why don’t you tell us all how the sky is falling again?

[goose]

He doesn’t rape women, he only sexually abuses them - which Nutsin is totally fine with.

Nutsin was well up for implementing the idea in Italy of chemical castration until he learned it might include sexual abusers as well rapists. Then he u-turned quicker than Starmer.

[Nutsin]

Still only condemning certain rapists, I see. What do you think about your hero, Donald Trump being a rapist?
Actually, seeing you are quoting Tommy Robinson, what do you think about him once launching a campaign to release his close friend, Richard Price, who had been found guilty of downloading child porn? Why do you think that paedophile supporter's views on any other sex offender have any merit whatsoever? 

Since when was Donald found guilty of rape?

[One Sunny Day]

Still only condemning certain rapists, I see. What do you think about your hero, Donald Trump being a rapist?
Actually, seeing you are quoting Tommy Robinson, what do you think about him once launching a campaign to release his close friend, Richard Price, who had been found guilty of downloading child porn? Why do you think that paedophile supporter's views on any other sex offender have any merit whatsoever? 

[Nutsin]

[Nutsin]

Bernstein senior analyst Daniel Roeska said auto companies have started to exhaust their strategy of absorbing tariff costs into their own margins as car prices are poised to skyrocket later this year.

“There are only two people who can pay for [tariffs]: either the shareholders or the consumer,” Roeska told Fortune. “And in the end, there’s going to be some sharing between those two halves. And so our view has been and continues to be that prices for cars are going to push up in the second half.”

“There’s not much you can do,” Roeska said. “If the policy is to put tariffs on cars, then that will increase the cost of cars, and ultimately, that will likely increase the price of cars.”

https://fortune.com/2025/07/22/who-is-p ... al-motors/

GM aren’t alone in this, it’s a common theme.
i’m off to bed, you can keep wrestling with who’s on the other end of the tariffs equation. Shareholders or consumers………

Looks like the Euro auto makers are about to lose a lot of market share in the US then doesn’t it. 

Unless they opt to make more cars in the US of course.

[goose]

Bernstein senior analyst Daniel Roeska said auto companies have started to exhaust their strategy of absorbing tariff costs into their own margins as car prices are poised to skyrocket later this year.

“There are only two people who can pay for [tariffs]: either the shareholders or the consumer,” Roeska told Fortune. “And in the end, there’s going to be some sharing between those two halves. And so our view has been and continues to be that prices for cars are going to push up in the second half.”

“There’s not much you can do,” Roeska said. “If the policy is to put tariffs on cars, then that will increase the cost of cars, and ultimately, that will likely increase the price of cars.”

https://fortune.com/2025/07/22/who-is-p ... al-motors/

GM aren’t alone in this, it’s a common theme.
i’m off to bed, you can keep wrestling with who’s on the other end of the tariffs equation. Shareholders or consumers………

[Nutsin]

Changed my tune on what? That they’re the biggest manufacturer of cars in the US? They are.

the proof is them paying it. You don’t think GM would avoid paying out an additional $1.1bn of costs if they could? What about Q3 when it becomes an even bigger cost?

if they had a more cost effective option they’d be doing it don’t you think?

if you think you’re embarrassing anyone others than yourself, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
next you’ll be telling me about all the beef you’re going to export to Australia  

Simpleton!

 

It is a very simple equation as I posted below.
FY it’ll cost GM between $4 to $5bn. If you think there’s a cheaper way for them to do business I’d love to hear it? I’m sure you are way smarter than them.

someone is paying that $4-$5bn, either GM or the consumer.

Simpleton!

[goose]

Changing your tune now I see. You must hate that I co time to embarrass you. Ag ag ag!

Who said they cannot avoid it? Do you have any proof of this? Or are you talking bollocks again?

Changed my tune on what? That they’re the biggest manufacturer of cars in the US? They are.

the proof is them paying it. You don’t think GM would avoid paying out an additional $1.1bn of costs if they could? What about Q3 when it becomes an even bigger cost?

if they had a more cost effective option they’d be doing it don’t you think?

if you think you’re embarrassing anyone others than yourself, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
next you’ll be telling me about all the beef you’re going to export to Australia  

Simpleton!

 

 

It is a very simple equation as I posted below.
FY it’ll cost GM between $4 to $5bn. If you think there’s a cheaper way for them to do business I’d love to hear it? I’m sure you are way smarter than them.

someone is paying that $4-$5bn, either GM or the consumer.

[Nutsin]

Imported cars and parts.

So if the biggest manufacturer of cars in the US chooses to import despite the $1.1bn hit, what does that tell you about producing the equivalent in the US? It’s cheaper to take the $1.1bn hit.

They also warned that the hit to costs will be even greater next quarter.

Now, if the biggest and most well equipped manufacturer of cars cannot avoid those costs you think there’s a magic answer to this? Nope. 

Changing your tune now I see. You must hate that I co time to embarrass you. Ag ag ag!

Who said they cannot avoid it? Do you have any proof of this? Or are you talking bollocks again?

Changed my tune on what? That they’re the biggest manufacturer of cars in the US? They are.

the proof is them paying it. You don’t think GM would avoid paying out an additional $1.1bn of costs if they could? What about Q3 when it becomes an even bigger cost?

if they had a more cost effective option they’d be doing it don’t you think?

if you think you’re embarrassing anyone others than yourself, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
next you’ll be telling me about all the beef you’re going to export to Australia  

Yes, I think GM can change it, just not over night. I’m sure if it saves them money they will set the wheels in motion to make change, otherwise they’re leaving money on the table and no CEO worth his weight will leave money on the table. So they have to adjust their business model to accommodate the new world economic order. Making any initial hit transitory.


Beef sales to Australia are too minimal to even consider, they have no affect on anything.

military spending, Aerospace,  Energy, tech, medical and Autos are where it matters.

EU is gonna take a big hit with their auto sales if they can’t get an agreement with Trump. 

One common theme I’m seeing is that the USA is getting much better deals than they had before. 

Trump is right, they all want a piece of the US consumer. Especially now the consumer is getting to keep more of his paycheck and getting a higher wage.

[Nutsin]

Imported cars and parts.

So if the biggest manufacturer of cars in the US chooses to import despite the $1.1bn hit, what does that tell you about producing the equivalent in the US? It’s cheaper to take the $1.1bn hit.

They also warned that the hit to costs will be even greater next quarter.

Now, if the biggest and most well equipped manufacturer of cars cannot avoid those costs you think there’s a magic answer to this? Nope. 

Changing your tune now I see. You must hate that I co time to embarrass you. Ag ag ag!

Who said they cannot avoid it? Do you have any proof of this? Or are you talking bollocks again?

Changed my tune on what? That they’re the biggest manufacturer of cars in the US? They are.

the proof is them paying it. You don’t think GM would avoid paying out an additional $1.1bn of costs if they could? What about Q3 when it becomes an even bigger cost?

if they had a more cost effective option they’d be doing it don’t you think?

if you think you’re embarrassing anyone others than yourself, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
next you’ll be telling me about all the beef you’re going to export to Australia  

Simpleton!

[Massive Attack]

Apologies for interrupting the goose n nutsin show, normal service can continue soon.

Was thinking back to covid times  today and i remembered that the army built 7 hospitals in a week. So why the fuck can't the government instruct the army to build a dozen detention centres to house all these budding Horatio Nelsons. Kit them out with camp beds and stick them out at the back of beyond where there are no locals. This would save the tax payer a fortune and would also preserve the jobs of of all the staff who get sacked as soon as the hotels are comadered for these Herbert's. The government clearly have no intention of stopping these people coming here so the least they can do is stop giving them free shit, stop putting them in luxurious settings and show the British people that the British government is actually on their fucking side!

Will to do it. It's an easy thing to initiate if they want to. Dominic Cummings said that the Nightingale Hospitals were knocked up in days through specialist logistical help of the Army. He recommended they should do the same with temporary migrant camps which solves some issues like having them away from schools etc. 

Starmer doesn’t want to do that, just as he pulled the plug immediately on the Rwanda scheme, even though if he just continued on with what the Tories started with it, they'd be able to stop a lot of the pull to the Country as well.

If he actually cared about how liked he was in the Country, keeping that going was such an easy win as the Tories got it up and running and he could still bask in the glory of clearing migrant issue away without getting any of the shit thrown at him bar some student union knicker wetting tantrums. 

But Starmer clearly doesn't want to do that, he wants the Country to live in misery so he looks great on the world stage with his other muggy liveral luvvie wankers around the world and in particular the EU.

He probably also sees it weirdly as reparations through the backdoor unofficially "giving back" for all of our nasty Colonial ways, hence Chagos Islands surrender at a cost to us. 

[only1billybonds]

Apologies for interrupting the goose n nutsin show, normal service can continue soon.

Was thinking back to covid times  today and i remembered that the army built 7 hospitals in a week. So why the fuck can't the government instruct the army to build a dozen detention centres to house all these budding Horatio Nelsons. Kit them out with camp beds and stick them out at the back of beyond where there are no locals. This would save the tax payer a fortune and would also preserve the jobs of of all the staff who get sacked as soon as the hotels are comadered for these Herbert's. The government clearly have no intention of stopping these people coming here so the least they can do is stop giving them free shit, stop putting them in luxurious settings and show the British people that the British government is actually on their fucking side!