Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

[stubbo-admin]

May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.

Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?

Window this close season comes in two parts:

Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September

Rumoured Outs...most of the squad

Let the "Rumoured In's" commence. 

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Player | Position | Club | Fee (GBP)

Rumoured In

1. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
2. Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
3. Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
4. Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
5. Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
6. Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
7. James Trafford | GK | Burnley
8. Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
9. Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
10. CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
11. Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
12. Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
13. Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
14. Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
15. Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
16. James McAtee | AM | Man City
17. Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
18. Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
19. Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
20. Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
21. Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
22. Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
23. Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
24. Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
25. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
26. Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
27. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
28. Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
29. Yeremay | FW | Deportivo La Coruna
30. Adama Bojang | ST | Reims
31. Rocco Reitz | MF | Borussia Moenchengladbach
32. Dominic Calvert-Lewin | ST | Free Agent
33. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LB | SK Slavia Prague
34. Oscar Mingueza | RB/MF | Celta Vigo
35. Tyler Morton | CM | Liverpool
36. Harvey Elliott | AM | Liverpool
37. Zion Suzuki | GK | Parma
38. John Victor | GK | Botofogo 
39. Jacob Ramsey | MF | Villa
40. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton
41. Nga Makou | CM | Lille
42. Quinten Timber | CM
43. Hayden Hackney | CM | Boro
44. Yves Bissouma | CM | Spurs

Rumoured Out

1. Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseile
2. Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
3. Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/Espanyol
4. Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
5. Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
6. Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
7. Lucas Paqueta | AM | Man City
8. Andy Irving | CM | Celtic/Wrexham
9. Emerson | LB | Marseille

Confirmed In

1. Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
2. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic (Free Agent...Tribunal)
3. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LWB | Slavia Prahia | 20m
4. Kyle Walker-Peters | RWB | Free Agent
5. C****m Wilson | ST | Free Agent
6. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester (18m)
7. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton (38m + 4m)
8. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco (17m)
9. Igor Julio | CB | Brighton (Loan)

Confirmed Out

1. Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
2. Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
3. Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
4. Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
5. Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
6. Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
7. Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
8. Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
9. Brad Dolaghan | Released
10. Dondre Abraham | Released
11. Mehmet Halim | Released
12. Muhammed Judus |stroppy| sp*rs| £55m
13. Michail Antonio | Released
14. Kieran Casey | Swansea | Loan
15. Edson Alvarez | Fenerbache | Loan with Option
16. Emerson | Marseille | £1m
17. Aguerd | Marseille | £20m
18. Max Cornet | Genoa | Loan

[El Scorchio]

Cooper, Ramsey- the DVD writer on Salthouse's laptop must be going a dime a dozen this week with bike couriers waiting on the doorstep to deliver them to the gaudy mansion.

[Sir Alf]

Oh btw, latest “hot news” Jacob Ramsay of Villa incoming.  Another Salthouse client.

Look even if he is half decent, I dont know? Does he solve the central midfield issues?  Doesnt matter in some ways but he would be just another example of Sullivan’s influence and as Russ sats running a club like a market trader back in the 90s.

Sullivan, Sullivan Sullivan !!! What did we do to deserve this awful, despicable man leading our club?  

[Sir Alf]

He ( Sullivan ) is the enormous dark cloud that hangs over this club. Its why we are all dreading the upcoming season. You can almist guarantee we will come up short on recruitment again abd not address the absolutely obvious problems in central midfield and up front.  All of it will then be accompanied by an avalanche of spin from Sullivan’s media cronies about how difficult the market is, how we have to sell, theres no money etc etc.   Relegation fight ahead.

[El Scorchio]

Absolutely- or the three B's Bournemouth Brighton and Brentford. Their profits in player trading in the last five years must be staggering.

Bournemouth made 150m plus in the last two seasons from selling Solanke, Kerkez and Huijsen. Combined they cost less than 60. The last two were only there a couple of seasons. 

Brighton's profits on players over the last few seasons are obscene and already very well documented.

Brentford made over 10 times what they paid for Mbuemo and Raya respectively, almost 40 million on Toney, almost 30 on Watkins and just for a little kick in the teeth, Benrahma cost them 1.7m.

This data driven recruitment and scouting well for young players is nothing compared to Sullivan's 'eye for a bargain' and 'winning a deal', clearly. 

[Russ of the BML]

Basically this. In terms of player trading on the whole we seem to be running at a loss. Very rare that we recoup any money on mid to large transfers in, let alone make a profit. We make some modest amounts on smaller transfers and moving some youngsters on. Kudus is kind an anomaly. Even then we probably didn't get the maximum we could for a player of his talent given the various circumstances. Declan Rice was very much the exception, and I believe we'd likely be in PSR trouble were it not for the fee we got for him. 

We're just running an unsustainable business on the player side, which requires extra funds to be pumped in to cover the losses and holes caused by our piss poor transfer strategy.

Unlike Liverpool - They are run smartly and efficiently which has seen them able to spend big this window knowing that they have just logged a £30m profit on Diaz. And also have Harvey Elliot and Darwin Nunez in the bag ready to go, who they will sell both (neither to us) and make a good profit on Elliot and a modest loss on Nunez. And all this on top of being Champions last season based on a previous modest outlay the season before. This is what can be achieved if you have modern thinking accountants running alongside a modern business ethos and strategy. 

West Ham are fucking light years away with the cսnt we have in charge. A man who's own view of his reputation blinds him from the old fashioned incompetent chump he is. Bound by his limitations through trying to get deals done for his mates. He is the encompassing version of anti-modern football. Living in the 90's still acting like a second hand car dealer. It amazes me that we are still in the PL under this goon.

Add to that the fact that we moved to a house that wasn't fit for purpose and he is probably the most detested owner in the PL.

What a legacy. 

[RootsRadical]

Obviously some of our midfielders are so shit no one wants them.
I like Alvarez as someone who just sits infront of the defence to break up attacks and pick up the scraps.
Soucek is a good option to have in the squad.
Irving has something about him and is another good squad option.
Paqueta is obviously a very good player when not distracted by FA charges.


Sell Rodriguez & JWP if we can, maybe Irving if needs be, we may then be able to purchase an energetic box to box type midfielder to compliment Alvarez & Paqueta as starters.

[Lee Trundle]

Apart from Paqueta & the kids I’d sell them all.

what a pile of shit.

So would I (some of those descriptions were very tongue in cheek if you hasn't guessed).  I'd have offloaded them whatever price we'd get for them ASAP.  I don't care if we'd lose money or be close to PSR limits and all that shit.

But we just going to tread water with some of those, or treat treacle more like.

[goose]

Apart from Paqueta & the kids I’d sell them all.

what a pile of shit.

[Lee Trundle]

Reading a few sites and outlets, rumour has it that we wont be buying any more central midfielders before selling 1 or more of them? Sullivan saying we have 8 already, regardless of the fact that a none of them have pace, physicality to play on the half turn and carry the ball, its all about balancing cash flow apparently? 


 

JWP
Paqueta
Alvarez
Rodriguez
Soucek
Potts
Irving
Orford

I don't buy that between all those (and that's not including the impressive Fearon) that we have no pace, physicality to play on the half turn and carry the ball.

You've got seasoned international players in that, some of them captains, a Brazilian #10, a world cup winner, players who have been awarded young players of the year, etc.

I keep getting told Potter is excellent at coaching the players he's got to become better.  Is that a load of complete bollocks?

[Sir Alf]

Reading a few sites and outlets, rumour has it that we wont be buying any more central midfielders before selling 1 or more of them? Sullivan saying we have 8 already, regardless of the fact that a none of them have pace, physicality to play on the half turn and carry the ball, its all about balancing cash flow apparently? 

Sullivan also allegedly believes the targets that Macaulay and Potter are identifying are too expensive. Example being the keeper at Leicester when there is Cooper at Sheffield Utd who is at least 15 mill cheaper. The fact he is a Salthouse is purely coincidence of course. 

Just rumours but last 2 weeks of inactivity kind of support them. We have 30 million of the Kudus fee unspent but perhaps we spent it all if its cash flow because Spurs were paying in 3 installments with only the first one having being paid?  

This week I expect no business again despite lots of noise via Sullivan’s media cronies

[El Scorchio]

Just read an article on the beeb where David Moyes is bemoaning the lack of incoming players. 


 

I did find it interesting that there were a couple of things totally relatable from his time here, such as their new young left back not expected to play for some time, and him stressing about wanting 'experienced' players. He only knows one way.

But still he's not been tempted by Soucek or JWP...

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Just read an article on the beeb where David Moyes is bemoaning the lack of incoming players. 

 

[El Scorchio]

Basically this. In terms of player trading on the whole we seem to be running at a loss. Very rare that we recoup any money on mid to large transfers in, let alone make a profit. We make some modest amounts on smaller transfers and moving some youngsters on. Kudus is kind an anomaly. Even then we probably didn't get the maximum we could for a player of his talent given the various circumstances. Declan Rice was very much the exception, and I believe we'd likely be in PSR trouble were it not for the fee we got for him. 

We're just running an unsustainable business on the player side, which requires extra funds to be pumped in to cover the losses and holes caused by our piss poor transfer strategy.

[Sir Alf]

The reports Ive read point to cash flow / liquidity being the issue?   Sullivan and fellow shareholders loaned money in so not sure if that now an issue?  

Thing is running it the way Sullivan does is a big ponzi scheme.  Borrowing as far ahead as possible against TV and ticket money, wastimg a lot if it on poor recruitment and then borrowing again to pay off the amortisation of player fees we end up selling for less than we sold and paying off huge interest payments on the money we borrowed which itself was borrowed to do the same thing for even further back.  Only the Rice money eased things for a while but we wasted that with poor recruitment and player contracts etc along with the extra revenues we got from 3 years of Euro football and a conf league win. We also manage to not take advantage of not having the overhead of building or  running our own stadium.

Sullivan made money in porn and property ( the latter is easy to do if you have a lot of money which he did from dildos, invested in property and over the last 30 years just wait).  Making money running a football club or not losing it all takes business acumen, strategic thinking, experience and know how, intelligence not a barrow boy, market stall mindset looking for a quick buck.  Sullivan and his sidekick Brady and Gold before, have shown incompetence on a spectacular level. Other clubs have done it too of course but over 15 years Sullivan has shown he is clueless running a prem lge football club.  He has however managed to be very successful lining his own pockets as a byproduct of using the club as a ponzi scheme via deals thru agents etc. 

Sullivan always comes back to him. The festering boil on the arse of WHU FC

[Steady]

Can someone explain in basic terms for me please (apologies if it’s covered previously and I’ve missed it).

How can we be skint? The Kudus money covered our only transfers of Diouf and Todibo. Then we have a £40 mill loan that was paid back, but have just been awarded £130.9 million premier league prize money and tv money. That should give us £90 million+  excluding any other transfer funds we’d built up previously. Remember we were supposedly going after Duran in January and didn’t spend anything in that transfer window.

Add in the fact we’ve shifted Zouma, Ings, Cresswell, Coufal, Antonio etc which has freed up a lot via wages. 

[El Scorchio]

Yup all very true. I wonder if (if the loophole is indeed still open) next summer when the Rice money falls off the books is the sensible time to do it rather than now seen as I guess you'd lose a year of benefit from it for no gain if we aren't in danger of breaching it. You'd like to think if the loophole were to close we'd be right in there doing what would be most advantageous for us going forward before it does.

As you say though it's all about ambition, sooo..... chances are we don't, coupled with the fact our limited finance situation seems self imposed. It would be embarrassing to free up more space that we are too poor to use. Literally exposing themselves as paupers.

Also Sullivan seems preoccupied running around trying to secure payday loans and sleeping at the wheel with most other things aside from buying his mate's elderly crocked shop soiled players to be thinking about this.

[Fauxstralian]

I don’t fully understand PSR but believe we have £90m leeway … though that may be affected in the future when the sale of Rice drops out of our calculation
It does appear that Sullivan’s ‘we have to sell before we can buy’ is more about his reluctance to spend given his atrocious mismanagement over the last few years
But you have to think this women’s team sales & Chelseas hotel shuffle HAS to be shut off at some point so you’d be crazy not to take advantage 
Unless you have no ambition

In addition we have a lease to pay £2.5m pa for another 90 years on a stadium we fill with 60,000 people maybe 20 times or more a season
Some property person can value that.
In the general spirit of piss taking could we sell that from one group company to another?

[El Scorchio]

I see Everton have joined Chelsea & Villa in selling their women’s team to themselves to artificially create PSR headroom 
Is ludicrous not to exploit this nonsensical loophole if you have any interest in improving your squad

Agree, although we aren’t in any need of PSR headroom at the moment are we, or has that changed? It’s just down to not having or wanting to spend money at the moment? If we do have any PSR issues then absolutely. 

[Fauxstralian]

I see Everton have joined Chelsea & Villa in selling their women’s team to themselves to artificially create PSR headroom 
Is ludicrous not to exploit this nonsensical loophole if you have any interest in improving your squad

[twoleftfeet]

Ramsdale to Newcastle

That’s one less relegation spot to worry about.

[fraser]

Hopefully he'll be TRIUMPHant if he signs. 

[Iron Duke]

You could be HONDA something here

[Massive Attack]

Only 22 as well so he's got plenty of miles left on the clock. 

[mallard]

He’s the type of player you’d never get TYRED of watching 

[honky cat]

Suzuki's my first choice, i couldnt give a shit if hes any good or not