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There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.
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XKhammer wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 12:12
goose wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 08:05
Nutsin wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 00:11
Stop being obtuse. The point here is obvious. The Imams at these Sharia councils could ignore the UK laws and offer advice based on Sharia law instead.

Knowing that these Imams have permitted authority by the UK Gov’t to offer such advice isn’t it a valid concern that kids are being set up for pefofilia?

It’s not beyond the realm to think a Child would be easy prey especially if ignorant of UK law or be easily convinced that Sharia law is the only law that matters and must be adhered to, especially if a Legal Sharia council Imam condones it. 

See a problem now?
I don’t know how many more different ways to tell you that Sharia law isn’t applicable in U.K. law. Everything they do has to sit within U.K. laws.
A marriage has to be recognised in law to be a marriage.

Maybe your time would be better spent worrying about the four US states with no legal minimum age for marriage? Or the several other states which allow 14 to 16 year olds to marry?
Fucking hypocrite Eyetie who must know the age of consent in 3rd world Italy is 14 FFS!
You’ve got some front talking about age of consent.
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goose wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 08:05
Nutsin wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 00:11
goose wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:31
We do, it’s impossible for children to be married in the U.K.
end of nonsense conversation.
Stop being obtuse. The point here is obvious. The Imams at these Sharia councils could ignore the UK laws and offer advice based on Sharia law instead.

Knowing that these Imams have permitted authority by the UK Gov’t to offer such advice isn’t it a valid concern that kids are being set up for pefofilia?

It’s not beyond the realm to think a Child would be easy prey especially if ignorant of UK law or be easily convinced that Sharia law is the only law that matters and must be adhered to, especially if a Legal Sharia council Imam condones it. 

See a problem now?
I don’t know how many more different ways to tell you that Sharia law isn’t applicable in U.K. law. Everything they do has to sit within U.K. laws.
A marriage has to be recognised in law to be a marriage.

Maybe your time would be better spent worrying about the four US states with no legal minimum age for marriage? Or the several other states which allow 14 to 16 year olds to marry?
Fucking hypocrite Eyetie who must know the age of consent in 3rd world Italy is 14 FFS!
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Nutsin wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 00:11
goose wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:31
Nutsin wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:25
That’s not the question.

We all know what British law is.
We do, it’s impossible for children to be married in the U.K.
end of nonsense conversation.
Stop being obtuse. The point here is obvious. The Imams at these Sharia councils could ignore the UK laws and offer advice based on Sharia law instead.

Knowing that these Imams have permitted authority by the UK Gov’t to offer such advice isn’t it a valid concern that kids are being set up for pefofilia?

It’s not beyond the realm to think a Child would be easy prey especially if ignorant of UK law or be easily convinced that Sharia law is the only law that matters and must be adhered to, especially if a Legal Sharia council Imam condones it. 

See a problem now?
I don’t know how many more different ways to tell you that Sharia law isn’t applicable in U.K. law. Everything they do has to sit within U.K. laws.
A marriage has to be recognised in law to be a marriage.

Maybe your time would be better spent worrying about the four US states with no legal minimum age for marriage? Or the several other states which allow 14 to 16 year olds to marry?
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Massive Attack" wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 03:18
Nutsin wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 00:11
goose wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:31
We do, it’s impossible for children to be married in the U.K.
end of nonsense conversation.

It’s not beyond the realm to think a Child would be easy prey especially if ignorant of UK law or be easily convinced that Sharia law is the only law that matters and must be adhered to, especially if a Legal Sharia council Imam condones it. 

See a problem now?
I read the article, the bit that says that Child services said that the poor girl had been “let down” let down ffs! That’s it? Just let down? It’s fucking madness!

They sent the poor girl to live with a grooming gang ffs at the age of 15 and all they have to say is they let her down?

What is wrong with society over there? Unreal!
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Nutsin wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 00:11
goose wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:31
Nutsin wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:25
That’s not the question.

We all know what British law is.
We do, it’s impossible for children to be married in the U.K.
end of nonsense conversation.

It’s not beyond the realm to think a Child would be easy prey especially if ignorant of UK law or be easily convinced that Sharia law is the only law that matters and must be adhered to, especially if a Legal Sharia council Imam condones it. 

See a problem now?
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goose wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:31
Nutsin wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:25
goose wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:23
Do you spend your days trawling the gutters of twitter trying to find stuff to post on here?

UK law is crystal clear about the age of consent and the legal age for marriage. 
That’s not the question.

We all know what British law is.
We do, it’s impossible for children to be married in the U.K.
end of nonsense conversation.
Stop being obtuse. The point here is obvious. The Imams at these Sharia councils could ignore the UK laws and offer advice based on Sharia law instead.

Knowing that these Imams have permitted authority by the UK Gov’t to offer such advice isn’t it a valid concern that kids are being set up for pefofilia?

It’s not beyond the realm to think a Child would be easy prey especially if ignorant of UK law or be easily convinced that Sharia law is the only law that matters and must be adhered to, especially if a Legal Sharia council Imam condones it. 

See a problem now?
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Nutsin wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:24
Did he speak to GM who reported a 35% profit decline?
or Stellantis who furloughed 900 workers in Michigan & Indiana?

according to the Detroit Regional Chamber’s Data and Research team, auto manufacturers employment in Michigan is 5% down on LY.
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Nutsin wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:25
goose wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:23
Nutsin wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:17
No shit Sherlock!

Do you think there might be half a chance that it’s also happening in the UK? Or do you think it only happens in Berlin?
Do you spend your days trawling the gutters of twitter trying to find stuff to post on here?

UK law is crystal clear about the age of consent and the legal age for marriage. 
That’s not the question.

We all know what British law is.
We do, it’s impossible for children to be married in the U.K.
end of nonsense conversation.
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goose wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:23
Nutsin wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:17
goose wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 21:47
It’s in Berlin you div.
No shit Sherlock!

Do you think there might be half a chance that it’s also happening in the UK? Or do you think it only happens in Berlin?
Do you spend your days trawling the gutters of twitter trying to find stuff to post on here?

UK law is crystal clear about the age of consent and the legal age for marriage. 
That’s not the question.

We all know what British law is.
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Nutsin wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 22:17
goose wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 21:47
Nutsin wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 21:44 Hey Goose looks like the Imams at the Sharia councils you rave about are giving marital advice to yndersge girls.

Care to comment?


It’s in Berlin you div.
No shit Sherlock!

Do you think there might be half a chance that it’s also happening in the UK? Or do you think it only happens in Berlin?
Do you spend your days trawling the gutters of twitter trying to find stuff to post on here?

UK law is crystal clear about the age of consent and the legal age for marriage. 
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goose wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 21:47
Nutsin wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 21:44 Hey Goose looks like the Imams at the Sharia councils you rave about are giving marital advice to yndersge girls.

Care to comment?


It’s in Berlin you div.
No shit Sherlock!

Do you think there might be half a chance that it’s also happening in the UK? Or do you think it only happens in Berlin?
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Nutsin wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 21:44 Hey Goose looks like the Imams at the Sharia councils you rave about are giving marital advice to yndersge girls.

Care to comment?


It’s in Berlin you div.
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Hey Goose looks like the Imams at the Sharia councils you rave about are giving marital advice to yndersge girls.

Care to comment?


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BillyJenningsBoots wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 19:58
Nutsin wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 14:15
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 11:48
Unforunately your idol stated he would drop drug prices by 1000% because like you he is too stupid to understand maths.

You said he was removing all trade barriers. But unfortunately tarrifs his only trade policy are trade barriers which he has increased.

If you are going to make out consumer sentiment is up under Trump dont you have to contextualise it that it had dropped massively since he became President and hasnt yet returned to Pre Trump levels.

Ha and that is something else you are wrong about! Take a look back at Pickles posts they are nothing like mine. And arent I about the forth poster on here you have accused of being Pickle? Seems his and my views are not that rare then?

Stupid little man!
No, I’ve only ever accused you of being Pickle, nobody else. And I don’t need to read through Pickles posts I know it’s you.

Can’t wait for all the scum bag Dems to get exposed for all of their lies, corruption and treason. I’m especially looking forward to seeing Hillary get her dues. 
Typical Trump supporter ignores facts when they are presented to them. But yes why bother checking Pickles posts I mean that would prove it one way or the other. Oh and dont come back with our similar views. Does that make Goose or Hammer I Am Pickle?

You think Trump isnt a liar and a felon and a child molester and a cheat. Amazing. Im looking forward to when he gets what he deserves which may come sooner than you think.

Youve never got over being slaughtered on here about your undying love for Moyes have you 😘 ❤️ 💕 ♥️ 💖 such a great judge of character arent you Moyes and Trump jeez!




Whatever you say Pickle!
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I think I'll repot my chilli plants tomorrow. 
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Nutsin wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 14:15
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 11:48
Nutsin wrote: 01 Aug 2025, 23:10
Twice you’ve mentioned Trump saying he would drop drug prices 1000% that is not the entire statement.

He referenced Ozempic costing approx $85 in the UK but close to $1,100 in the USA for the exact same product. He said at have we done to deserve that? From now on we (meaning the USA will no longer be the suckers who pay the most we will now pay the least) I make him right.


Tariffs were already in place AGAINST the USA from other countries and in addition there were trade restrictions against USA products that have all now been lifted. Do the USA can trade in these countries without restriction. That is what I mean with trade barriers.

Yes, I do think Trump is bringing in Trullions in new investments, 100%.

As for consumer sentiment you can pick any period of time to find a win, example I could go back to a number of any different months and Inflation was much higher than it is today, over 8% in some months. I don’t do that though, why? Because it’s a retarded argument.


You are definitely Pickle, no doubt about it!
Unforunately your idol stated he would drop drug prices by 1000% because like you he is too stupid to understand maths.

You said he was removing all trade barriers. But unfortunately tarrifs his only trade policy are trade barriers which he has increased.

If you are going to make out consumer sentiment is up under Trump dont you have to contextualise it that it had dropped massively since he became President and hasnt yet returned to Pre Trump levels.

Ha and that is something else you are wrong about! Take a look back at Pickles posts they are nothing like mine. And arent I about the forth poster on here you have accused of being Pickle? Seems his and my views are not that rare then?

Stupid little man!
No, I’ve only ever accused you of being Pickle, nobody else. And I don’t need to read through Pickles posts I know it’s you.

Can’t wait for all the scum bag Dems to get exposed for all of their lies, corruption and treason. I’m especially looking forward to seeing Hillary get her dues. 
Typical Trump supporter ignores facts when they are presented to them. But yes why bother checking Pickles posts I mean that would prove it one way or the other. Oh and dont come back with our similar views. Does that make Goose or Hammer I Am Pickle?

You think Trump isnt a liar and a felon and a child molester and a cheat. Amazing. Im looking forward to when he gets what he deserves which may come sooner than you think.

Youve never got over being slaughtered on here about your undying love for Moyes have you 😘 ❤️ 💕 ♥️ 💖 such a great judge of character arent you Moyes and Trump jeez!




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Post Nutsin »

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: 02 Aug 2025, 11:48
Nutsin wrote: 01 Aug 2025, 23:10
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: 01 Aug 2025, 22:08
You think tarrifs are not a barrier to trade?

You think all Trumps posturing about $bns of investments  are all true and guaranteed.

You think consumer sentiment is up because its higher than Trumps previous months yet 7% lower than it was 12months ago under Sleepy Joe.

and....

You think I dont know what Im talking about!?

Ha ha 😂  you are a joke Nutsackenomics - you havent got a clue. 
Twice you’ve mentioned Trump saying he would drop drug prices 1000% that is not the entire statement.

He referenced Ozempic costing approx $85 in the UK but close to $1,100 in the USA for the exact same product. He said at have we done to deserve that? From now on we (meaning the USA will no longer be the suckers who pay the most we will now pay the least) I make him right.


Tariffs were already in place AGAINST the USA from other countries and in addition there were trade restrictions against USA products that have all now been lifted. Do the USA can trade in these countries without restriction. That is what I mean with trade barriers.

Yes, I do think Trump is bringing in Trullions in new investments, 100%.

As for consumer sentiment you can pick any period of time to find a win, example I could go back to a number of any different months and Inflation was much higher than it is today, over 8% in some months. I don’t do that though, why? Because it’s a retarded argument.


You are definitely Pickle, no doubt about it!
Unforunately your idol stated he would drop drug prices by 1000% because like you he is too stupid to understand maths.

You said he was removing all trade barriers. But unfortunately tarrifs his only trade policy are trade barriers which he has increased.

If you are going to make out consumer sentiment is up under Trump dont you have to contextualise it that it had dropped massively since he became President and hasnt yet returned to Pre Trump levels.

Ha and that is something else you are wrong about! Take a look back at Pickles posts they are nothing like mine. And arent I about the forth poster on here you have accused of being Pickle? Seems his and my views are not that rare then?

Stupid little man!
No, I’ve only ever accused you of being Pickle, nobody else. And I don’t need to read through Pickles posts I know it’s you.

Can’t wait for all the scum bag Dems to get exposed for all of their lies, corruption and treason. I’m especially looking forward to seeing Hillary get her dues. 
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Can anyone confirm this?

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Nutsin wrote: 01 Aug 2025, 23:10
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: 01 Aug 2025, 22:08
Nutsin wrote: 01 Aug 2025, 21:48
You have no idea what you are talking about
You think tarrifs are not a barrier to trade?

You think all Trumps posturing about $bns of investments  are all true and guaranteed.

You think consumer sentiment is up because its higher than Trumps previous months yet 7% lower than it was 12months ago under Sleepy Joe.

and....

You think I dont know what Im talking about!?

Ha ha 😂  you are a joke Nutsackenomics - you havent got a clue. 
Twice you’ve mentioned Trump saying he would drop drug prices 1000% that is not the entire statement.

He referenced Ozempic costing approx $85 in the UK but close to $1,100 in the USA for the exact same product. He said at have we done to deserve that? From now on we (meaning the USA will no longer be the suckers who pay the most we will now pay the least) I make him right.


Tariffs were already in place AGAINST the USA from other countries and in addition there were trade restrictions against USA products that have all now been lifted. Do the USA can trade in these countries without restriction. That is what I mean with trade barriers.

Yes, I do think Trump is bringing in Trullions in new investments, 100%.

As for consumer sentiment you can pick any period of time to find a win, example I could go back to a number of any different months and Inflation was much higher than it is today, over 8% in some months. I don’t do that though, why? Because it’s a retarded argument.


You are definitely Pickle, no doubt about it!
Unforunately your idol stated he would drop drug prices by 1000% because like you he is too stupid to understand maths.

You said he was removing all trade barriers. But unfortunately tarrifs his only trade policy are trade barriers which he has increased.

If you are going to make out consumer sentiment is up under Trump dont you have to contextualise it that it had dropped massively since he became President and hasnt yet returned to Pre Trump levels.

Ha and that is something else you are wrong about! Take a look back at Pickles posts they are nothing like mine. And arent I about the forth poster on here you have accused of being Pickle? Seems his and my views are not that rare then?

Stupid little man!
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Nutsin wrote: 01 Aug 2025, 23:31
goose wrote: 01 Aug 2025, 22:00
Nutsin wrote: 01 Aug 2025, 21:48
 
I addressed all your concerns several times over. I take it youno longer respect what CNN says about the economy then, because I posted a link from CNN that spells out consumer spending is up.


You’re just bitter because Trump has come out way ahead on all these trade agreements.


Poor Goose
Weak consumer demand I said.
This was my exact post from the day before:

”Strip out trade inventory & government spending and you have “Real Final Sales to Private Domestic Purchasers”. This is underlying demand growth.

Q2 was 1.2%, a step back of 0.7% from Q1.”

Weak demand growth for Q2, behind Q1 and a mile behind LY.
3 months of weak job data.
5 months of manufacturing contraction.

as for consumer spending, 0.1% after being adjusted for inflation. 
yeh Trump is really “winning”.
Fuck me, you’ve got adjustments for your adjustments.

strip this out and strip that out and you’re still nowhere near stagflation or the sky falling in. And all this with absolutely no help from the Fed, in fact the opposite. This is what real capitalism looks like, not that Crony capitalism that heavily relies on the Fed to constantly step in and pick winners and losers.

Trumps making all the right moves, nobody said it was gonna happen over night or that it would be plain sailing but at the end of the day it’ll be worth it, especially for the middle and working class.

I’ve not got any adjustments.
“Real Final Sales to Private Domestic Purchasers” is the benchmark for underlying demand. You can dance around it all you want, but that’s how you measure demand in the economy.

by ‘making all the right moves’ do you mean pushing up inflation and slowing demand? Because that’s what he’s doing. You can piss & moan about the fed not cutting rates, but it’s his actions that have resulted in this.
Dont forget the hundreds of billions he’s adding to your national debt as well.
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goose wrote: 01 Aug 2025, 22:00
Nutsin wrote: 01 Aug 2025, 21:48
goose wrote: 01 Aug 2025, 17:53
I laid out the demand weakness in the GDP figures, you side-stepped it because you couldn't answer the question.

he's not bringing inflation down, in fact he is deliberately making decisions that push inflation up.
same with the debt, taking deliberate decisions that everyone knows will increase that debt.
 
I addressed all your concerns several times over. I take it youno longer respect what CNN says about the economy then, because I posted a link from CNN that spells out consumer spending is up.


You’re just bitter because Trump has come out way ahead on all these trade agreements.


Poor Goose
Weak consumer demand I said.
This was my exact post from the day before:

”Strip out trade inventory & government spending and you have “Real Final Sales to Private Domestic Purchasers”. This is underlying demand growth.

Q2 was 1.2%, a step back of 0.7% from Q1.”

Weak demand growth for Q2, behind Q1 and a mile behind LY.
3 months of weak job data.
5 months of manufacturing contraction.

as for consumer spending, 0.1% after being adjusted for inflation. 
yeh Trump is really “winning”.
Fuck me, you’ve got adjustments for your adjustments.

strip this out and strip that out and you’re still nowhere near stagflation or the sky falling in. And all this with absolutely no help from the Fed, in fact the opposite. This is what real capitalism looks like, not that Crony capitalism that heavily relies on the Fed to constantly step in and pick winners and losers.

Trumps making all the right moves, nobody said it was gonna happen over night or that it would be plain sailing but at the end of the day it’ll be worth it, especially for the middle and working class.

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