Potter Out

[THUNDERCLINT]

Had enough of this arogrant no mark now.  

11 games, 27% win ratio and 0.66 goals per game.

Either the break clause is true or this flake quits otherwise were proper fucked.

[stubbo-admin]

Interesting quote from Will Still at Southampton who obviously took over from the Potter-esque Russel Martin:

"We were getting into old habits of playing sideways and backwards and attracting pressure, but we started playing forward and getting in behind.

“We don’t want to play short and attract pressure and play it back into pressure. I think that’s everything we want to avoid.

“Once we started stretching it, our passing was a bit bigger, and we started switching and stretching their block, then you just make it easier for yourself.

[stubbo-admin]

Here’s a serious question: when was the last time that Ward-Prowse played a defence-splitting pass? Of any kind?

His role in the side seems to have become to drop deep, pick up the ball from his CBs, look sideways, pass sideways or back (where, under Potter, the spare man is always placed) and repeat until nauseous.

Maybe he would improve under a very different manager. But he has become the epitome of Potter’s crab-ball.



 

 

 

He's actually worse as a number 8 where he's playing now, than he was as a 6 last season...at least there he received the ball on the half-turn and distributed the ball left or right.  Offered no real shield, but did at least help to conduct buildup from deep.

But now he just looks like an aged dachsund, trying to kep up with a bunch of labrador juveniles at the park.  Plenty of willing, and some unique former abilities, but fundamentally just no longer up to task amongst bigger, stronger, faster specimens. (no idea where that analogy came from).

But he's also a symptom of our squad state, and also Potter's love of 'safe' yes men.

No need to go into it all again...we all by now and recognise the squad issues, ownership issues, management issues.  Just a waiting game until some or all of that changes.

[Mad Dog]

Ward prowse started off brilliant for us and fell off a cliff.  He may well be the slower human being alive.  I remember last season when a goalkeeper outpaced him to a loose ball

And now he looks like potter's favourite player

But fuck me how bad is kilman?  No shixk that he came on and the defence instantly looked worse.  2nd goal he lost thr ball in thr middle and 10 seconds later there was a high ball 20 yards out he just stood there and let 2 wolves players decide between themselves who was going to control it.
He's making konstantinos "clanger" mavropanos look like our best defender.  Perhaps his some of his balls up were due to him having  no faith in kilman .  Having pakyed as a centre back for years i know for a faxt that When youre playing alongside a shit 2nd centre half your decision making changes completely.  

[southbankbornnbred]

Here’s a serious question: when was the last time that Ward-Prowse played a defence-splitting pass? Of any kind?

His role in the side seems to have become to drop deep, pick up the ball from his CBs, look sideways, pass sideways or back (where, under Potter, the spare man is always placed) and repeat until nauseous.

Maybe he would improve under a very different manager. But he has become the epitome of Potter’s crab-ball.

 

[southbankbornnbred]

Ward-Prowse is astonishingly ineffective.

Floats like a butterfly and stings like one, too. Slow, can’t tackle, can’t pass forward (it seems to have been coached out of him) and even his dead-balls have lost any impact.

The less said about Rodriguez the better. I’d drive him back to Spain myself if we get an offer. Genuinely. My offer stands.

[southbankbornnbred]

I hate his football but what this team needs now is BFS the fireman to sort out that fucking defence.

I’m genuinely not sure that the defence can get a lot better - without a major, and good, signing at CB.

Our CBs, in any combination, are just not good enough. Todibo has some talent, but is unfit and can’t concentrate. The other three are just not Premier League quality regularly enough.

Kilman is genuinely the worst £40m footballer I’ve ever seen - by a big distance, too.

A really authoritative and disciplined manager might get a slight improvement out of them, sure. But they’d be working with poor tools. Putting two good CMS in front of them will help paper over some cracks, rather than have two immobile ghosts like Rodriguez and JWP.

[Massive Attack]

Incredible to think that up until 1989 the club only had five different managers.  Sullivan has appointed seven.

 

 

I said prior that unless they are favourites or Yes Men, it's a myth they always back managers and have churned over so many now to prove it's nonsense.

[Mad Ferret]

It's the centre backs that bother me, none of them fill me with confidence.

Why not just stick Mavropanos and Soucek in the middle of the defence, at least it provides a wall of sorts. I know they aren't " ball players " but at least they show some heart.

You really are a thick fucking cսnt.

[Massive Attack]

Gutless wanker didn't even do a wnd Away presser from what I can tell, as he swerved the Sunderland one as well. He only last 5 minutes after Chelsea before bolting for the exit crying about being asked fair questions.  

[Tomshardware]

this cսnt is clearly after another pay off. that can be the only rational explanation for his team selections, and continued backing of this shit system/formation. he's continually blown smoke up the board's arse, lying to the fans that "they've done everything they can to help me". bowen, if he has any sense will be on the phone to his agent this morning to get the fuck away from this car crash of a season

This is the only rational explanation I can come up with.  A few on here are making comparisons to Roeder and Grant but in both their tenures I don't remember it being this bad. 

[zico]

Half the problem with this newish breed of manager is that they probably base half their decisions on stats.  He would probably note that Guido Rodriguez runs more than ayone else in the PL which knowing Potter he would see as a positive, ignoring the fact that Guido is really just running around chasing people all the time because he can't get near them.  Likewise he may state that we have completed the most defensive headers (we haven't, more like missed defensive headers), and he would point to that as defensive solidity rather than the fact that in truth we are getting battered!    It was clear at 1-1 that we were getting over run and he had Irving on the sideline, but sat him down after we scored, but we were still getting over run after scoring.  Nothing changed apart from the fact that we scored, what was he seeing that we weren't?!  Plus again you never, ever change defensive personel when you are winning unless you really have to.  What was he thinking?

[Iron Duke]

Sullivan only employs one unemployed manages, and usually they are unemployed for a good reason. I don’t think they’ve made one appointment as good as Bournemouth, Palace or Brighton have. They got lucky with Moyes - his stock was rock bottom when he was left in the wilderness after taking Sunderland down, and no one wanted him even when we got Pellegrini for a couple of years.

A case of buy cheap buy twice, except it has happened multiple times.

[twoleftfeet]

It's the centre backs that bother me, none of them fill me with confidence.

Why not just stick Mavropanos and Soucek in the middle of the defence, at least it provides a wall of sorts. I know they aren't " ball players " but at least they show some heart.

[Sanacs on tour]

Surely its got to the point where Potter would even need paying out of his contract now, if this isnt gross negligence i don't know what is

The constant JWP, Soucek (played out of position) and Rodriquez trio, he might as well just say fuck you in the pre match interview and be done with it

 

[zico]

Incredible to think that up until 1989 the club only had five different managers.  Sullivan has appointed seven.

[claypole]

All of this could have been avoided had the right man been appointed instead of the cheap out of work option in Lopetegui. At that time I believe we could have had a genuine chance of bringing in Frank, Silva or Glasner. Yet here we are on the verge of sacking another manager, and a squad not up to it. As a board member I would be asking questions about recruitment and how it needs to change going forward.

[Takashi Miike]

this cսnt is clearly after another pay off. that can be the only rational explanation for his team selections, and continued backing of this shit system/formation. he's continually blown smoke up the board's arse, lying to the fans that "they've done everything they can to help me". bowen, if he has any sense will be on the phone to his agent this morning to get the fuck away from this car crash of a season

[aldgate]

Sullivan will be dusting down his filofax now for Alex McLeish's number

[Lee Trundle]

Reckon the next time we see his face on screen it'll look like he would have been on an all night bender.

He went down hill pretty fast when he was at Chelsea when the heat was on him.

[THUNDERCLINT]

COCK PISS OUT.

[muskie]

For selecting a starting 11 that had Soucek, Ward-Prowse and Rodriguez on the pitch at the same time he has to go.

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

Of the managers currently out of work the number 1 choice for me would be Marco Rose, ex of Leipzig and Dortmund. Mentored by Klopp, he adopts a similar style of play: press hard and high, and use an attacking, quick, forward-moving style when in possession. It's completely the opposite of Potter and exactly the sort of football the fans can get behind. 

 

[Far Cough UKunt]

I hate his football but what this team needs now is BFS the fireman to sort out that fucking defence.

[BRANDED]

The club cannot, and will not, move on until Sullivan is no longer the chairman.

He is the millstone around the club’s neck, not useless Potter or any of his terrible managerial appointments.

An Abramovic figure is not heading our way. Those days are gone. But, realistically, the best thing that could happen now is Kretinsky buys the Gold Family trust shares and takes his holding from 27% to 52% , making him the majority shareholder.

At that point, Sullivan would relinquish control of the club/board.

 

Southbank 

I thought that a few weeks back, instead of hoping for Sullivan to finally cave in, I wondered whether Vanessa and her old man who's West Ham would do the honourable thing if they thought it was for the best for Kretinsky as a new Owner to now take over control? As well as probably think it's too toxic to stay themselves with little to gain now, good time to go anyway.

I'd prefer that because it would show Sullivan right up and humiliate him being not in control of his destiny and done by the Golds which would feel a bit like a betrayal to him personally.

Quite. Poetic justice!

Chances are slim. But they are not non-existent.

I just cannot see a bright future for the club while Sullivan remains at the helm. I don’t like Potter - he’s a football fraud. But constantly rotating managers, as we have for years, will get you nowhere if the ultimate owner/chair has absolutely no vision for the club - and limited (football) business skills.

In the meantime, Potter does need to go. There are better options available - even under Sullivan’s ludicrous “unemployed only” policy.

One simple vision for the club is employing better people. 

[BRANDED]

Has he gone yet?