Freddie Potts

[iphammer]

He'll turn out better than Declan Rice. 

[Westham67]

Three games in, I am sure he will get a start along the way. Our injury jinx will take a few new players out

[Mad Ferret]

A real shame we couldn't offload Potts before the deadline.

[cholo]

Should be ahead of guido and at least on equal terms with jwp. Can't think of any fans who would disagree with that. 

On that note I can't believe Guido is still here, I suppose he's been told by the interested club to stick it out here until at least January.

[Massive Attack]

 Its very hard to break into the senior team.

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It certainly is when you're not even given a proper chance when there was no danger at all in giving him a go. And we wonder why Academy players don't get a look in.. Potts deserved better after his strong season last season and Pre-season against Prem opposition to go with it. 

[Sir Alf]

Its true Alfs that we as fans want the youth players to make it that it can interfere with objectivity ( is that what is also called cognitive dissonance ?). Potts, as you say, has not “pulled up any trees” or caught the eye particilarly but as no 6 his job is more about the team, working hard etc. My issue is that he looked as good if not better than Guido and Soucek and even the ever present JWP. So why not give him some minutes? He might not take his chance etc but there is a small chance he acclimatises more to the Prem Lge thru these minutes, learns, develops and omproves. If not he ends up like Josh Cullen moves on and perhaps finds a club where he can get game time.  I really want to see more of him even if ultimately he moves on because I saw enough to convince me he is a better option than Guidi, JWP and even Soucek in adefensive midfield role.  

Also agree that from Earthy, Potts, Scarles and even Orford ( ok only U21 and pre season ) that Earthy looks the most promising. Would be great to get a home grown lad in the team again.  Fearon looked a a good prospect in pre season and he and Kante stood out in the 2 U21 games Ive seen on YouTube. Closest to the emergence of someone like Rice who at first viewing you could see had the x factor. The ones before Rice I remember like that were obviously Rio and Cole. The youth player though that I  remember thinking was going to be a superstar in a Zennith Data Systems game on a cold night in the 80s was none other than Paul Ince. Shame he went all Judus on us via his agent Mendy but him coming on as sub in that game was a great moment. Best player on the pitch immediately and 17 years, maybe just 18.  Will we ever see a player like that again and one we can keep? Probably not

[honky cat]

Those two players we signed - diouf and fernandes - are younger but seem years ahead of freddie in ability. Sorry. Its very hard to break into the senior team.

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[Alfs]

As much as I LOVE seeing our home grown players coming through I fear that when it comes to a lot of posters on here, logic goes out of the window, to be replaced by claret and blue romanticism.  

Potts did okay with the chances he was given, but, in my opinion, nothing more than that.  Where as Earthy, and the young Fearon, when given their chance, showed a Je Ne sais quoi.  The same with Scarles, to be honest.  A similar aged Diouf has offered so much more.  I'm not saying they wont make Prem players, and I really hope that they do,  but I don't think either have reached that level yet.

[Sir Alf]

Potter’s has really fvcked up on Potts imo. Like so many managers we see fail down the years ( England managers particularly come to mind ) they have this belief in past reputations or history and “experience” over what they see with their eyes.  Potts played pre season but soon as the real matches get underway the judgement goes against him and with experience and reputation. Even 2 heavy losses and he doesnt give Potts a starting birth in the Lge Cup despite him looking the strongest player in pre season compared to Soucek, Guido & JWP.  Yes it was only pre season but Potter should have given him a start and some more minutes in the 2 heavy losses. He ( Potter ) will probably cite Potts losing the ball which then led to Wolves 3rd goal? but he was trying to get us forward as we had been under the cosh for all the 2nd half. 

Look Im not convinced yet that he is high level Prem Lge quality but simply because Ive not seen him play at that level.  But I am pretty sure he could do as well as, probably better than JWP Guido and Soucek. Irvine looked better than those 3 in his cameo against Notts Forest. Potts is quicker not just running but with his passing, sharper all round and looks to get the ball forward when possible. He’s more aggressive in duels and certainly more physical than JWP. But the latter once played for England, has 100s of Prem games under his belt. Management by spreadsheet type thinking. Using his eyes and being objective is what Potter needs to do but suspect he wont.   Real shame and Im increasingly thinking Potts career is goimg to be away from the club he loves. 

[Tomshardware]

The reality is he hasn't been given a chance to start games. That's the key bit. What a wasted opportunity Pottwr had in the opening 3 games of the season to test him whilst the window was still open and the season as early as possible.

Who knows, had he performed well (he could have been shite) it may have prevented the Club from essentially panic buying other Defensive Midfielder(s) at inflated prices. But if not and it didn't work out, then it still wouldn't have stopped us doing what we've now done anyway and we'd have been a lot clearer as to how good or bad Potts really is at this level. 

Piss poor management. 

He got plenty of game time in preseason, which is the time to work out if they're good enough. He then has had barely a sniff. Perhaps Potter just thinks he's shit?  I think he should have started against Wolves, but Potter doesn't seem to rate him. Weird because some of the players he does seemingly rate are fucking dreadful. 

Which makes it even more baffling as he impressed in Pre-season, even Stevie Wonder could see he was doing well holding his own out there in the middle of the park against Prem and Ligue 1 opposition.

Yep Potts should have started against Wolves as should one or 2 other younger players.   

[stubbo-admin]

he might not offer exactly what we are missing, but before we signed Fernandes and Magassa, he offered us a much greater level of enthusiasm and energy in midfield, which we were definitely missing.

But now he is behind:

Paqueta
Fernandes
Magassa
JWP
Soucek
Guido
Irving



 

Feel sorry for the lad. He's obviously not trusted. Just hope Potter makes a point of looking to get him minutes off the bench whenever he can. Wouldn't be surprised to see him off on loan in January and then for him to go the same road as Josh Cullen. 

In fairness, it's well known Orford is the big home. Potts data has been nothing remarkable, and will not be a big surprise to see him head to the Championship for a few million on a permanent and have to work his way back up.

[scott_d]

he might not offer exactly what we are missing, but before we signed Fernandes and Magassa, he offered us a much greater level of enthusiasm and energy in midfield, which we were definitely missing.

But now he is behind:

Paqueta
Fernandes
Magassa
JWP
Soucek
Guido
Irving


 

[John Drake]

I'm not convinced that what Potts offers is what we are missing but surely he is a beter option than persevering with Rodriguez or JWP.

[Massive Attack]

The reality is he hasn't been given a chance to start games. That's the key bit. What a wasted opportunity Pottwr had in the opening 3 games of the season to test him whilst the window was still open and the season as early as possible.

Who knows, had he performed well (he could have been shite) it may have prevented the Club from essentially panic buying other Defensive Midfielder(s) at inflated prices. But if not and it didn't work out, then it still wouldn't have stopped us doing what we've now done anyway and we'd have been a lot clearer as to how good or bad Potts really is at this level. 

Piss poor management. 

He got plenty of game time in preseason, which is the time to work out if they're good enough. He then has had barely a sniff. Perhaps Potter just thinks he's shit?  I think he should have started against Wolves, but Potter doesn't seem to rate him. Weird because some of the players he does seemingly rate are fucking dreadful. 

Which makes it even more baffling as he impressed in Pre-season, even Stevie Wonder could see he was doing well holding his own out there in the middle of the park against Prem and Ligue 1 opposition.

[Vexed]

The reality is he hasn't been given a chance to start games. That's the key bit. What a wasted opportunity Pottwr had in the opening 3 games of the season to test him whilst the window was still open and the season as early as possible.

Who knows, had he performed well (he could have been shite) it may have prevented the Club from essentially panic buying other Defensive Midfielder(s) at inflated prices. But if not and it didn't work out, then it still wouldn't have stopped us doing what we've now done anyway and we'd have been a lot clearer as to how good or bad Potts really is at this level. 

Piss poor management. 

He got plenty of game time in preseason, which is the time to work out if they're good enough. He then has had barely a sniff. Perhaps Potter just thinks he's shit?  I think he should have started against Wolves, but Potter doesn't seem to rate him. Weird because some of the players he does seemingly rate are fucking dreadful. 

[Massive Attack]

The reality is he hasn't been given a chance to start games. That's the key bit. What a wasted opportunity Pottwr had in the opening 3 games of the season to test him whilst the window was still open and the season as early as possible.

Who knows, had he performed well (he could have been shite) it may have prevented the Club from essentially panic buying other Defensive Midfielder(s) at inflated prices. But if not and it didn't work out, then it still wouldn't have stopped us doing what we've now done anyway and we'd have been a lot clearer as to how good or bad Potts really is at this level. 

Piss poor management. 

[easthammer]

I really hope Potts makes the grade in the premiership, but the reality is that it is very difficult to do so. He is at 21 older than the two signings we have made today and older than Diouf. At his age, Rice was playing for England. The problem for him will be getting game time, particularly in a team that is struggling to avoid relegation. He will have to deliver from the start as he won't have the luxury of learning from his mistakes. I think Scarles has found that to be the case following his performance against Liverpool last season. But being a couple of years younger, he will get another chance. With the likes of Kante performing so  well in the under 21s I don't think Potts has very long to make his mark.

[Full Claret Jacket]

I like what I've seen of him, I think he has to play matches. I look at how well Cullen is playing for Burnley and I think Potts is better at his age. He does need to be stronger and improve his anticipation. For a club outside the top spots there has to be a place for him to learn and progress. Just hope he doesn't end up frozen out entirely by the new signings and have to leave to build a career. 

[scott_d]

The academy is dead under the current manager.  Absolutely no point in having one.

It is a fucking myth that he gives youth a chance - he's a bad as Moyes and Lopetegui.

Not a single youth player has started since Ollie Scarles in April against Liverpool, which was 9 competitive games ago.

[Tomsdad]

With a decent coach, he could be a very good player.

Unfortunately, under Potter he will be forever watching Prowse from the bench.

[XKhammer]

He's got to be given a chance 

[Sir Alf]

He will need to develop further, become stronger on the ball. Technically he's good enough for the Premier Lge but IMO lacks the physicality and pace just now. The latter is something he cannot improve but it can be compensated for with positioning, reading the game, knowing when to go and when to sit etc and he is a lot quicker than the "Tortoise Collectives" ( Guido, JWP, Soucek ) Potter seems to prefer all the time.  He could be a real asset at Prem Lge level if he can become really strong at protecting the ball and winning challenges. Get in the gym Freddie, bulk up. He has an "edge" which I like and will need to use it more.  

All that said, he needs to be given minutes like in the cup games as getting experience at his age is key.. oh wait ....

So for me its 50:50 on whether he can become a decent Prem Lge player versus being just an outstanding championship player. 

[the exile]

He's good but he really isn't that good. Best we can hope for is that he's a good learner and will continue to develop his game.

[Lato]

Earthy injured an ankle preseason
CockPiss said he was back in training last week

Thanks for that!

[Fauxstralian]

Earthy injured an ankle preseason
CockPiss said he was back in training last week

[yngwies Cat]

Pool play a 16 year old and the fucker scores.

We really need to get over the Reece Oxford thing