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May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.

Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?

Window this close season comes in two parts:

Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September

Rumoured Outs...most of the squad

Let the "Rumoured In's" commence. 

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Player | Position | Club | Fee (GBP)

Rumoured In
  1. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
  2. Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
  3. Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
  4. Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
  5. Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
  6. Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
  7. James Trafford | GK | Burnley
  8. Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
  9. Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
  10. CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
  11. Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
  12. Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
  13. Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
  14. Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
  15. Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
  16. James McAtee | AM | Man City
  17. Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
  18. Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
  19. Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
  20. Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
  21. Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
  22. Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
  23. Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
  24. Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
  25. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
  26. Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
  27. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
  28. Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
  29. Yeremay | FW | Deportivo La Coruna
  30. Adama Bojang | ST | Reims
  31. Rocco Reitz | MF | Borussia Moenchengladbach
  32. Dominic Calvert-Lewin | ST | Free Agent
  33. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LB | SK Slavia Prague
  34. Oscar Mingueza | RB/MF | Celta Vigo
  35. Tyler Morton | CM | Liverpool
  36. Harvey Elliott | AM | Liverpool
  37. Zion Suzuki | GK | Parma
  38. John Victor | GK | Botofogo 
  39. Jacob Ramsey | MF | Villa
  40. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton
  41. Nga Makou | CM | Lille
  42. Quinten Timber | CM
  43. Hayden Hackney | CM | Boro
  44. Yves Bissouma | CM | Spurs
Rumoured Out
  1. Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseile
  2. Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
  3. Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/Espanyol
  4. Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
  5. Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
  6. Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
  7. Lucas Paqueta | AM | Man City
  8. Andy Irving | CM | Celtic/Wrexham
  9. Emerson | LB | Marseille
Confirmed In
  1. Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
  2. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic (Free Agent...Tribunal)
  3. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LWB | Slavia Prahia | 20m
  4. Kyle Walker-Peters | RWB | Free Agent
  5. C****m Wilson | ST | Free Agent
  6. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester (18m)
  7. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton (38m + 4m)
  8. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco (17m)
  9. Igor Julio | CB | Brighton (Loan)

Confirmed Out
  1. Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
  2. Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
  3. Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
  4. Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
  5. Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
  6. Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
  7. Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
  8. Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
  9. Brad Dolaghan | Released
  10. Dondre Abraham | Released
  11. Mehmet Halim | Released
  12. Muhammed Judus |stroppy| sp*rs| £55m
  13. Michail Antonio | Released
  14. Kieran Casey | Swansea | Loan
  15. Edson Alvarez | Fenerbache | Loan with Option
  16. Emerson | Marseille | £1m
  17. Aguerd | Marseille | £20m
  18. Max Cornet | Genoa | Loan
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In fact who was the CDM around when Rice broke through? We had Kouyate and Obiang about that time. And I think the season before we had Alex Song from Barca. 
I think Kouyate and Obiang moved on pretty soon. We were covered for CB’s which was Rice’s first position I think, but the whole CDM thing was a bit of a gap for us in terms of decent senior level players. 

Im not saying Rice isn’t a great player that didn’t have obvious potential. Im saying that sometime great players don’t break through because there isn’t a gap for them at this club to do so. Rice was fortunate in that regard. 

To disagree that playing 1st team football week in week out at the highest level for 3-4 yrs does not improve massively as a player is just silly. 
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Sorry. There is no way Rice only got game time because of lack of more senior players. That’s a wild claim.

He had already stood out playing in a back three under Moyes, who notoriously never gives youth a chance unless they are right at the top tier, i.e, Rooney. Pellegrini, to his credit, spotted his potential to play in midfield, but I think that transition would have happened organically anyway. 

Rice got played because it was abundantly clear he was extremely talented. All that was up for debate is which position he would be played in. It’s as simple as that. 
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El Scorchio" wrote: 05 Sep 2025, 11:10
threesixty wrote: 05 Sep 2025, 10:50
El Scorchio" wrote: 04 Sep 2025, 15:10
Yup it's a sad truth. If we were churning out players of PL quality from the academy, then they'd be playing PL football for us or someone else. Absolutely Potts not getting time isn't helping him- especially before the two new lads joined and he wasn't looking bad compared to the statues sharing the dressing room with him, but if he's good enough, he will make it either for us or someone else. Rather it be with us if possible but the sad thing to say is that as you've said, Rice is really the only player to come through the academy for a long time and be a PL success. 

It's a head scratcher how the youth team of a couple of seasons ago could be so good and then none of them really amount to anything YET while some of the Arsenal lads are, but that so often happens in football. If they were genuinely good enough, they'd be playing here or elsewhere.
 
It’s a catch 22. Rice got the minutes , no one else did. If Rice had a seasoned international in the CDM position in front of him he wouldn’t have got anywhere near the minutes he got and he wouldn’t be a great player by now. And he’d have ended up at some yo yo club or in the championship.  

Rice has strangely benefited from West Ham’s notoriously poor transfer activity that left us without a genuine CDM at that time. Same issue for Nagakia when we didn’t have a right back and he claimed that place only to ask to leave instead of realising he had the chance to gain lots of minutes in the top flight as first choice RB. 
Nah. Rice isn't only the player he is because we didn't have a really good player in his position already- that's just a ridiculous assertion which also suggests just give any young player minutes and they'll be world class. 99% of all academy graduates disagree. By that logic we should just stick the youth team out there and within 2 years they'll all be world class. Rice got in the team because it was obvious even at a young age he was the fucking tits. No matter who the incumbent of the shirt is, if you're good enough you'll take it from them sooner or later. Michael Owen wasn't only good because he got minutes at a teenager, he got minutes because he was too good to not get them.

To actually say if Rice had a good player in the team in his position ahead of him at West Ham when he was younger, that he would be playing in the championship now, is just dumb.
 
 
 
 
Don’t agree. Minutes matter. Development matters. That’s the whole problem with West Ham’s academy. We don’t actually have  plans in place to bring our youth through properly. 1st team football is obviously very different to u21s and you need the regular exposure. You’re up against 30yr old men that will batter you physically or sometimes the best players on the world. You need to acclimatise. 

Because we seemed to always be flirting with relegation most years managers just got in experienced journeymen rather than think about youth development. I don’t even think we played the same system at academy level vs 1st team so how are these kids going to slot in for PL games properly?

it’s easy to say Mubama failed etc.. but we need to ask ourselves how our u21 are successful for years and can’t produce 1st team players. Yet Arsenal are playing 15 and 16 yr olds in their 1st and so are many other squads. We have the potential players it’s that we offer nothing beyond u21s in terms of planning to be in a 1st team. 

you only have to look at Harry Kane. A guy that didn’t do anything much on loan multiple times and then because of injuries got a call up to spurs 1st team and got a run of games. No one thought he had it in him. Now one of the world’s best strikers. Literally got a lucky break. Thats just how it’s been for many youngsters in this country.  

Greatness is made, it is developed, it does not just appear. 

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"It’s a catch 22. Rice got the minutes , no one else did. If Rice had a seasoned international in the CDM position in front of him he wouldn’t have got anywhere near the minutes he got and he wouldn’t be a great player by now. And he’d have ended up at some yo yo club or in the championship"



Wow. I mean, I've read some mental shit on these boards, but that is right up there.

I'll leave that one alone i think.
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Vexed wrote: 05 Sep 2025, 11:49
Nutsin wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 17:45 Early days I know, but there is a small part of me that thinks this transfer window will go down as one of the best we’ve had for some time. 


 
This is fucking bonkers
It's not at all. We are going to win the league.
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Nutsin wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 17:45 Early days I know, but there is a small part of me that thinks this transfer window will go down as one of the best we’ve had for some time. 

 
This is fucking bonkers
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threesixty wrote: 05 Sep 2025, 10:50
El Scorchio" wrote: 04 Sep 2025, 15:10
Eerie Decent" wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 09:59
That's all you needed to say.

We've had 1 player from the Academy who was genuinely good enough to be a proper Premier League player over the last 15 years, Declan Rice. No one, not even Moyes, was worried about putting him in the team.

I like Potts, and would like to see him start ahead of Mouse & Soucek, and that is a massive mark against Potter, amongst everything else he's got wrong. But let's be brutally honest, he's older than Fernandes, and they are miles apart in terms of being ready to be a regular PL player. 
Yup it's a sad truth. If we were churning out players of PL quality from the academy, then they'd be playing PL football for us or someone else. Absolutely Potts not getting time isn't helping him- especially before the two new lads joined and he wasn't looking bad compared to the statues sharing the dressing room with him, but if he's good enough, he will make it either for us or someone else. Rather it be with us if possible but the sad thing to say is that as you've said, Rice is really the only player to come through the academy for a long time and be a PL success. 

It's a head scratcher how the youth team of a couple of seasons ago could be so good and then none of them really amount to anything YET while some of the Arsenal lads are, but that so often happens in football. If they were genuinely good enough, they'd be playing here or elsewhere.
 
It’s a catch 22. Rice got the minutes , no one else did. If Rice had a seasoned international in the CDM position in front of him he wouldn’t have got anywhere near the minutes he got and he wouldn’t be a great player by now. And he’d have ended up at some yo yo club or in the championship.  

Rice has strangely benefited from West Ham’s notoriously poor transfer activity that left us without a genuine CDM at that time. Same issue for Nagakia when we didn’t have a right back and he claimed that place only to ask to leave instead of realising he had the chance to gain lots of minutes in the top flight as first choice RB. 
Nah. Rice isn't only the player he is because we didn't have a really good player in his position already- that's just a ridiculous assertion which also suggests just give any young player minutes and they'll be world class. 99% of all academy graduates disagree. By that logic we should just stick the youth team out there and within 2 years they'll all be world class. Rice got in the team because it was obvious even at a young age he was the fucking tits. No matter who the incumbent of the shirt is, if you're good enough you'll take it from them sooner or later. Michael Owen wasn't only good because he got minutes at a teenager, he got minutes because he was too good to not get them.

To actually say if Rice had a good player in the team in his position ahead of him at West Ham when he was younger, that he would be playing in the championship now, is just dumb.
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El Scorchio" wrote: 04 Sep 2025, 15:10
Eerie Decent" wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 09:59
El Scorchio" wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 09:23


 
That's all you needed to say.

We've had 1 player from the Academy who was genuinely good enough to be a proper Premier League player over the last 15 years, Declan Rice. No one, not even Moyes, was worried about putting him in the team.

I like Potts, and would like to see him start ahead of Mouse & Soucek, and that is a massive mark against Potter, amongst everything else he's got wrong. But let's be brutally honest, he's older than Fernandes, and they are miles apart in terms of being ready to be a regular PL player. 
Yup it's a sad truth. If we were churning out players of PL quality from the academy, then they'd be playing PL football for us or someone else. Absolutely Potts not getting time isn't helping him- especially before the two new lads joined and he wasn't looking bad compared to the statues sharing the dressing room with him, but if he's good enough, he will make it either for us or someone else. Rather it be with us if possible but the sad thing to say is that as you've said, Rice is really the only player to come through the academy for a long time and be a PL success. 

It's a head scratcher how the youth team of a couple of seasons ago could be so good and then none of them really amount to anything YET while some of the Arsenal lads are, but that so often happens in football. If they were genuinely good enough, they'd be playing here or elsewhere.
 
 
It’s a catch 22. Rice got the minutes , no one else did. If Rice had a seasoned international in the CDM position in front of him he wouldn’t have got anywhere near the minutes he got and he wouldn’t be a great player by now. And he’d have ended up at some yo yo club or in the championship.  

Rice has strangely benefited from West Ham’s notoriously poor transfer activity that left us without a genuine CDM at that time. Same issue for Nagakia when we didn’t have a right back and he claimed that place only to ask to leave instead of realising he had the chance to gain lots of minutes in the top flight as first choice RB. 
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Apparently Füllkrug has got a muscle injury on international duty.. 
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Eerie Decent" wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 09:59
El Scorchio" wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 09:23

All I’d say is none of them have really gone on to do much elsewhere that has us kicking ourselves they left. 
That's all you needed to say.

We've had 1 player from the Academy who was genuinely good enough to be a proper Premier League player over the last 15 years, Declan Rice. No one, not even Moyes, was worried about putting him in the team.

I like Potts, and would like to see him start ahead of Mouse & Soucek, and that is a massive mark against Potter, amongst everything else he's got wrong. But let's be brutally honest, he's older than Fernandes, and they are miles apart in terms of being ready to be a regular PL player. 
Yup it's a sad truth. If we were churning out players of PL quality from the academy, then they'd be playing PL football for us or someone else. Absolutely Potts not getting time isn't helping him- especially before the two new lads joined and he wasn't looking bad compared to the statues sharing the dressing room with him, but if he's good enough, he will make it either for us or someone else. Rather it be with us if possible but the sad thing to say is that as you've said, Rice is really the only player to come through the academy for a long time and be a PL success. 

It's a head scratcher how the youth team of a couple of seasons ago could be so good and then none of them really amount to anything YET while some of the Arsenal lads are, but that so often happens in football. If they were genuinely good enough, they'd be playing here or elsewhere.
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honky cat" wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 17:34 I dont think weve gone too wild with the new signings, because this time last week the manager had two games to turn it around.

Payoff money and transfer budget for a new manager might still be needed in January.

That would be an appalling reason for the Board to hide behind for not coughing up more for a Summer window.

If that was true, it tells us they are backing a manager they don't really believe in any more, in which case why is he still here? Or it means we can't spend properly because of it.
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Correction: Diouf and Magassa.
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Early days I know, but there is a small part of me that thinks this transfer window will go down as one of the best we’ve had for some time. 

KWP, Disouf and Fernandes all look quality.

Wilson looks like a player still.

If the keeper settles in and Massaga delivers we will have ourselves a proper team. 

Factor in Summervilles return and the fact that we have brought in some young players you can see the logic and the potential to what we did this window.

A new young, hungry center forward and a dominant center half and we’ll have ourselves a squad to build on.

This coupled with some consistency and pride in the badge could be the trigger we need to really kick on.


Amen.
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I dont think weve gone too wild with the new signings, because this time last week the manager had two games to turn it around.

Payoff money and transfer budget for a new manager might still be needed in January.
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Mad Freak 

Go fuck off on to a Spurs Forum instead of always posting on a West Ham one. 
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Massive Arsehole,

Get over it mate.
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It's as relevant to bring up now as it always has been since they first proudly trumpeted it at the start. It's one of the big reasons for wanting them out because it is a bear faced lie that they can never shake off and in part central to all the BS Out protests currently going on. Yet another timely Summer transfer window reminder that perfectly illustrates their bullshit. 
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Massive Attack" wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 16:37
stubbo-admin wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 16:28 So I'd personally rate our window as a 6.5 out of 10.

On balance I'd say it was an ok window that takes us in the right direction but leaves some issues unresolved. 



 

That's pretty much how I view it. Not good enough and certainly nowhere near "Next Level" type signings we were always promised, that we couldn't have managed at the Boleyn had we stayed.
Agreed...i've pretty much moved beyond judging our exploits through that lens...it was clearly an undeliverable promise made by an incompetent (at best) and deliberately misleading (at worst) owner hell bent on a course of action.

Could another owner leverage our playing arena to drive next level signings? Personally I doubt it....team prestige and league standing, wages, manager and incumbent playing staff all seem things much more likely to draw a player to the Club.

We are where we are now...it won't change without new ownership.  I'm fully behind the Sullivan resign campaign as competent structural running of the Club is the only way we can hope to achive the potential the Club has given it's advantages (fan base, location, revenues, etc).

But so many of the things in their original 10 point pledge, or pledged when moving to the Olympic stadium frankly they were in no position to promise, given the stadium alone couldn't deliver any of them (and more so, they weren't within the Club's direct control).
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stubbo-admin wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 16:28 So I'd personally rate our window as a 6.5 out of 10.

On balance I'd say it was an ok window that takes us in the right direction but leaves some issues unresolved. 


 

That's pretty much how I view it. Not good enough and certainly nowhere near "Next Level" type signings we were always promised, that we couldn't have managed at the Boleyn had we stayed.
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Mad Ferret" wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 14:34 Solid 6.5/10 window for me.
 
stubbo-admin wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 16:28 So I'd personally rate our window as a 6.5 out of 10.
Great minds think alike.
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So I'd personally rate our window as a 6.5 out of 10.

Pros:
  • Signed a highly rated mid 20s keeper. All be it he's had an iffy start
  • Addressed athletisicism in midfield with two very highly rated early 20s players
  • Kept our primary match winners in Bowen, Paqueta and Soucek
  • Reduced the average age of the Starting XI with 4 new first XI starters joining
  • Reduced the wage bill by around 30% ahead of PSR considerations when the Rice money no longer 'counts'
  • Introduced four youth players as first team squad members at the expense of 30+ veterans
  • Signed an excellent sqad member in KWP that can cover both full back positions when AfCON interfers later in the season
  • Brought in striker cover with a proven PL track record who is motivated to succeed (needs 11 more goals to join the PL hundred club)
Cons:
  • There is still no long term strategic solution to the central striker position
  • Options to affect the game positively from the bench will remain thin on the ground (assuming Summerville becomes first choice pick)
  • Pathway for key young players from the academy has been somewhat blocked (Potts, Scarles in particular)
  • A lot of money has now been spent across the centre back positions, but quality remains questionable
  • Squad lacks depth from a proven player perspective
  • Continued lack of leadership within the first XI
On balance I'd say it was an ok window that takes us in the right direction but leaves some issues unresolved. 

Probably does what we need it to do but no more. 

The elephant in the room remains a significant striker upgrade, although other areas were probably of greater importance, and squad renewal from an age perspective has clearly taken place, with the first team squad now having only 5 non-goalkeepers over the age of 30.
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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 14:58
Mad Ferret" wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 14:34 Solid 6.5/10 window for me.

Could’ve been pushed up to a 7.5 or 8 with the addition of a younger striker to compliment the two old boys. Also, if we’d shifted a couple more deadweights, such as Guido and Potts.
Has Potts dry bum fucked Ferrets dearly beloved?
He is obsessed with Potts, maybe he was turned down by him for a bit of bum?

More likely though is that Potts turned down an opportunity to join Spurs as a youngster.
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Mad Ferret" wrote: 03 Sep 2025, 14:34 Solid 6.5/10 window for me.

Could’ve been pushed up to a 7.5 or 8 with the addition of a younger striker to compliment the two old boys. Also, if we’d shifted a couple more deadweights, such as Guido and Potts.
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Solid 6.5/10 window for me.

Could’ve been pushed up to a 7.5 or 8 with the addition of a younger striker to compliment the two old boys. Also, if we’d shifted a couple more deadweights, such as Guido and Potts.
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We've brought in 4 players 25 years old and under, 5 including todibo. What a fucking disaster it's been. 
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