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Come On You Irons
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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
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Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 15:41SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 15:33I barely count the Mail as a newspaper any more - it's just like OK or Hello or some other celebrity obsessed shit now.They always seem to have some CELEB I've never heard of pictured at a beach in their bikini (that wasn't set up in the slightest).
So where do you get your news from Tik Tok(China),X(mong Musk),youtube or Russia Today?
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 15:33I barely count the Mail as a newspaper any more - it's just like OK or Hello or some other celebrity obsessed shit now.
They always seem to have some CELEB I've never heard of pictured at a beach in their bikini (that wasn't set up in the slightest).
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Tomshardware wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 15:31Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 15:02 I bet you don't either, certainly not in London.
Where do you live, for context?What did you have for lunch today?
He's had three lunches
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Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 15:02 I bet you don't either, certainly not in London.
Where do you live, for context?
I personally think you're both right,hospitals are clogged up with non English speaking foreigners sitting next to obese local chavs
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Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 14:58 I wasn't at the march, Sven, but by all accounts, it's nothing like what Diane Abbot or Narinder Kaur has told you about it.
Have a quick listen to Trevor Phillips about his experience of it (he's quite a big deal in the reporting world if you also haven't heard of him).
Sky News are Raynerite/Starmerite left, along with C4 News, the Guardian and the BBC. Not quite so far left as Corbyn, but pretty damn close. ITV News used to be a bit better, but are sliding down to meet them. The Mirror is now mentalist hard left and the Indie is kind of Greenie/Lib Dem. All independent radio stations seem to take their news bulletins from Sky, so are left as you like.
I would put the DT and Express as centre right and GB News and Talk as full on right (not fucking far right) I barely count the Mail as a newspaper any more - it's just like OK or Hello or some other celebrity obsessed shit now.
I would put the DT and Express as centre right and GB News and Talk as full on right (not fucking far right) I barely count the Mail as a newspaper any more - it's just like OK or Hello or some other celebrity obsessed shit now.
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Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 15:02 I bet you don't either, certainly not in London.
Where do you live, for context?
What did you have for lunch today?
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Fauxstralian wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 14:25 Mad Dog
When you are marching along with Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins , Lawrence Fox & a hologram of Elon Musk do you wonder about the company you are keeping?
Many valid points for people to march but it’s dominated by some odd people
Hope you didn’t beat up any police just doing their job
I didn't go on the march because of the people you mentioned(Except Hopkins) but would imagine most of the people there certainly didn't go to keep company with a moron like Fox but making a very valid point about illegals
As for anyone wanting to beat up the police that march was on August bank holiday in Notting Hill
As for anyone wanting to beat up the police that march was on August bank holiday in Notting Hill
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North East Essex. My point wasn't particular to where I live. As a nation Obesity is massively on the rise and a huge added strain on the NHS.
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I bet you don't either, certainly not in London.
Where do you live, for context?
Where do you live, for context?
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Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 14:46Tomshardware wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 14:28Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 11:21He makes some valid point about illegal immigration but why does he expect the country to "look after" himself and his veteran kids? What does he mean by "look after"?
This is the problem with modern society. So many people expect freebies and are not willing to graft and contribute to society. They just expect to be takers and to be "looked after".Expect his son was on a waiting list for housing. Don't want to pressume but if his son was also suffering from mental health problems there are sometimes long waits for services.
Yes there are immigrants on those lists but this country's health service is clogged up with fat lazy unhealthy people who can't be arsed to work and want enough money given them so they can afford their deliveroo from McDonald's.
Look at archive footage of this country pre 1990's. Barely any fatties about. We have followed infootsteps and it'll only get worse.
What a load of fucking bollocks.
Do yourself a favour, go to any hospital in London and the outskirts. The people you are attacking, will very much be the minority, by some fucking distance. Wanker.
Betting you don't work in the NHS.
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I wasn't at the march, Sven, but by all accounts, it's nothing like what Diane Abbot or Narinder Kaur has told you about it.
Have a quick listen to Trevor Phillips about his experience of it (he's quite a big deal in the reporting world if you also haven't heard of him).
Have a quick listen to Trevor Phillips about his experience of it (he's quite a big deal in the reporting world if you also haven't heard of him).
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collyrob
Yes every march has opportunists who tag along with their own nefarious motives
This however was sold as Tommy Robinson’s march and am guessing Hopkins & Fox were expected
I believe Musks appearance via a screen wasn’t pre advertised
Havent heard what his call for overthrow of the government & exhorting of violence went over but presume it wasn’t rejected by the concerned locals trying to make their valid non violent points
Yes every march has opportunists who tag along with their own nefarious motives
This however was sold as Tommy Robinson’s march and am guessing Hopkins & Fox were expected
I believe Musks appearance via a screen wasn’t pre advertised
Havent heard what his call for overthrow of the government & exhorting of violence went over but presume it wasn’t rejected by the concerned locals trying to make their valid non violent points
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Tomshardware wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 14:28Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 11:21Massive Attack" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 11:05 Perspective...
I was actually standing a few rows behind these chaps near the scaffolding on that building to the right that people climbed on. Remember that mans face although didn't actually hear this. The song was very moving too just as the heavens opened.He makes some valid point about illegal immigration but why does he expect the country to "look after" himself and his veteran kids? What does he mean by "look after"?
This is the problem with modern society. So many people expect freebies and are not willing to graft and contribute to society. They just expect to be takers and to be "looked after".Expect his son was on a waiting list for housing. Don't want to pressume but if his son was also suffering from mental health problems there are sometimes long waits for services.
Yes there are immigrants on those lists but this country's health service is clogged up with fat lazy unhealthy people who can't be arsed to work and want enough money given them so they can afford their deliveroo from McDonald's.
Look at archive footage of this country pre 1990's. Barely any fatties about. We have followed infootsteps and it'll only get worse.
Do yourself a favour, go to any hospital in London and the outskirts. The people you are attacking, will very much be the minority, by some fucking distance. Wanker.
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You say "let's see the evidence" but are quick to be convinced he must be so far right he makes kirk look like greta thunburg
You have not posted the full empathy quote. You have deliberately misinterpreted it and as I said ignored the "I prefer the term sympathy" part
I said I understood why people may have gone. I also think people like kate Hopkins and fox are fucking morons. I cant see myself ever going on a political march. The one against the board Saturday i do plan to be at however
I'm not right wing, but im definitely not left wing. Frankly Both are deeply flawed. But one thing I am vehemently against is the extremes of both sides. The racist cunts on the right, and the purple haired nose ringed screaming imbeciles on the left. I try to see oth sides and make my own judgement. I'm not beholden to anyone else's views. I think what I want to think, not what im supposed to think based off an idology
And no, violence isn't the answer to this. What IS going to happen is reform will be voted in by a lot of disenfranchised people who feel they are being ignored.
You have not posted the full empathy quote. You have deliberately misinterpreted it and as I said ignored the "I prefer the term sympathy" part
I said I understood why people may have gone. I also think people like kate Hopkins and fox are fucking morons. I cant see myself ever going on a political march. The one against the board Saturday i do plan to be at however
I'm not right wing, but im definitely not left wing. Frankly Both are deeply flawed. But one thing I am vehemently against is the extremes of both sides. The racist cunts on the right, and the purple haired nose ringed screaming imbeciles on the left. I try to see oth sides and make my own judgement. I'm not beholden to anyone else's views. I think what I want to think, not what im supposed to think based off an idology
And no, violence isn't the answer to this. What IS going to happen is reform will be voted in by a lot of disenfranchised people who feel they are being ignored.
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“As said a march with some valid points has been hijacked by those with extreme motives”
every protest, march, demonstration is going to have headbangers on either side. Do you just cancel because they join in?
every protest, march, demonstration is going to have headbangers on either side. Do you just cancel because they join in?
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People seem to delight in calling me dumb … I am just asking for proof of motive
Proof not a yearning to see the ‘other lot’ guilty
Hadn’t heard of Charlie Kirk or Nick Fuentes last week so just curious as to what’s gone on in the mind of Tyler Robinson
I see JD Vance the hillbilly Vice P reckons anyone who is nasty about Kirk should be hounded out of society
Cancelled & have no right to FREE SPEECH
Ironic, no?
Proof not a yearning to see the ‘other lot’ guilty
Hadn’t heard of Charlie Kirk or Nick Fuentes last week so just curious as to what’s gone on in the mind of Tyler Robinson
I see JD Vance the hillbilly Vice P reckons anyone who is nasty about Kirk should be hounded out of society
Cancelled & have no right to FREE SPEECH
Ironic, no?
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Fauxstralian wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 14:25 marching along with Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins , Lawrence Fox & a hologram of Elon Musk
*looks at Sven marching with Narinder Kaur, India Willoughby and Greta Thunberg and laughs*
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Yes it’s possible people rebel against family views … let’s see the evidence
The full empathy quote was posted .. and as many said his logic is flawed. Of course people can have empathy
You mentioned the march but didn’t attend
Yet you know why people marched … including the nutters Robinson , Hopkins & Fox. Do you agree with THEIR views?
As said a march with some valid points has been hijacked by those with extreme motives
Did the S African Musk call for the overthrow of the government & incite violence?
The full empathy quote was posted .. and as many said his logic is flawed. Of course people can have empathy
You mentioned the march but didn’t attend
Yet you know why people marched … including the nutters Robinson , Hopkins & Fox. Do you agree with THEIR views?
As said a march with some valid points has been hijacked by those with extreme motives
Did the S African Musk call for the overthrow of the government & incite violence?
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Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 11:21Massive Attack" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 11:05 Perspective...
I was actually standing a few rows behind these chaps near the scaffolding on that building to the right that people climbed on. Remember that mans face although didn't actually hear this. The song was very moving too just as the heavens opened.He makes some valid point about illegal immigration but why does he expect the country to "look after" himself and his veteran kids? What does he mean by "look after"?
This is the problem with modern society. So many people expect freebies and are not willing to graft and contribute to society. They just expect to be takers and to be "looked after".
Expect his son was on a waiting list for housing. Don't want to pressume but if his son was also suffering from mental health problems there are sometimes long waits for services.
Yes there are immigrants on those lists but this country's health service is clogged up with fat lazy unhealthy people who can't be arsed to work and want enough money given them so they can afford their deliveroo from McDonald's.
Look at archive footage of this country pre 1990's. Barely any fatties about. We have followed in
footsteps and it'll only get worse.
Yes there are immigrants on those lists but this country's health service is clogged up with fat lazy unhealthy people who can't be arsed to work and want enough money given them so they can afford their deliveroo from McDonald's.
Look at archive footage of this country pre 1990's. Barely any fatties about. We have followed in
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I didnt go on the March, who told you i did?
And I've said on this thread I dont like robinson and I imagine a lot of people didn't go as they dont want to be associated with him
And I've said on this thread I dont like robinson and I imagine a lot of people didn't go as they dont want to be associated with him
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Mad Dog
When you are marching along with Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins , Lawrence Fox & a hologram of Elon Musk do you wonder about the company you are keeping?
Many valid points for people to march but it’s dominated by some odd people
Hope you didn’t beat up any police just doing their job
When you are marching along with Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins , Lawrence Fox & a hologram of Elon Musk do you wonder about the company you are keeping?
Many valid points for people to march but it’s dominated by some odd people
Hope you didn’t beat up any police just doing their job
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This is one of the many posts you've decided to ignore
I had to scroll back a whole page to find it
"The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)15 Sep 2025 15:55
Faux
OK so youre either a troll or one of the dumbest people on here... or both
Once again answer my points
1) Is it not possible for a somone in the same family to have a different view to the rest of his family?
2) what is the FULL empathy quote, this time dont forget the bit about sympathy?
Post it here... actually read it
I doubt you'll respond to either point properly"
I had to scroll back a whole page to find it
"The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)15 Sep 2025 15:55
Faux
OK so youre either a troll or one of the dumbest people on here... or both
Once again answer my points
1) Is it not possible for a somone in the same family to have a different view to the rest of his family?
2) what is the FULL empathy quote, this time dont forget the bit about sympathy?
Post it here... actually read it
I doubt you'll respond to either point properly"