Potter Sacked!

[THUNDERCLINT]

Had enough of this arogrant no mark now.  

11 games, 27% win ratio and 0.66 goals per game.

Either the break clause is true or this flake quits otherwise were proper fucked.

[Mad Dog]

Seriously what is the point in waiting?

Is he going to turn it round?  No
Do we lose anything by getting rid now?  No

Put him and us out of misery

And dont fuck up the replacement... yet again 

[Massive Attack]

So it sounds like Sullivan is happy to give up the Everton & Arsenal games.
What happens if Nuno gets offered another job next week?

The same thing Mourinho did and go elsewhere. 

[goose]

So it sounds like Sullivan is happy to give up the Everton & Arsenal games.
What happens if Nuno gets offered another job next week?

[Sir Alf]

Like many, I liked the way he talked about the idea of working as a “team” and in his early days how he stopped the heavy defeats despite not getting many more if any points.  Thought he had “stopped the bleeding” and we would see some improvement this season.  But ultimately he, Macaulay and Sulluvan between them did not address the 5+ year old problem of lack of pace, athleticism and physicality ( especially midfield ) that restricts the squad to having to play low possession, low block football and relying on set pieces and counter attack football to score.  We have not bern able to put a squad together to play any other way and now cant even be effective at set pieces with the exception of Bowen’s goal yesterday. 

As others say on this thread, the Prem Lge now means having a fast, athletic central midfield and  similar players in attack to play low or high possession based footbal effectively. We simply do not have enough if any of those players and the Potter tactics  are past their sell by date. Its a very poor attempt at Pep style pissession but with technically and physically inferior players.  

I have to assume / hope the delay in announcing his sacking is fown to getting the next man lined up? Potter is done, nothing will change using his tactics. The next bloke will has a tough challenge on his hands but hopefully uses youth, the Jan window and basic organising of the team to make us harder to score against especially at set pieces. That alone should halve the goals conceded.  Fixing that midfield remains a priority but central defence aint far behind.

This season is already a write off with one objective… survival.  I have zero faith in Sullivan to get it right and just hope that the laws of probability kick in and he gets a new manager or coach that can eek out 40 points.  For me that probably means Nuno or O’Neill. Its hard to do worse than Potter and these two gave shown they havw some idea on the basics far more than Potter has.

We will waste another week but the inevitable defeat at Everton  should see the change made

Fvcking depressing times at West Ham yet sgain. 



 

[Massive Attack]

He achieved nothing at Brighton which was what used to do my head in about debating the failure. The positive spin on his career would make Alastair Campbell blush.

All he ever did was do well for a shit Swedish Club in below average Leagues. Because it was a bit leftfield for a Brit to do well abroad, albeit in dogshit Leagues, it got made in to something impressive when in reality it wasn't all that impressive really.

In the Premier League he has been stealing a living and one that's made him filthy rich in the process for doing next to fuck all good in it.

[honky cat]

I was pleased when he was announced as manager, i thought that maybe Chelsea had been a toxic place and he was unlucky. I looked at what he had achieved with Brighton and hoped it would happen for us. Even though he is Bradys husbands best mate or whatever, i thought it was a sensible appointment based on his CV so far, age, english manager  etc.

However it seems hes not suited to management at this level. Two sucessive failures now.
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Brighton was probably a really fortunate set of circumstances for him, a very lucky spell of recruitment and only an idiot could fail to get a tune out of those exceptional players.

 

[Keep dreaming]

Does it count that Bowen openly asks us to out the blame on the players and not the manager? Or is that words out in his mouth by the club being the club captain?

[Far Cough UKunt]

Agree about Kante the bloke is a beast.

[southbankbornnbred]

I've met Potter and he seems a very likeable bloke but ill-suited to be a football manager.
Graham, If your'e reading this, fall on your sword mate, for the good of yourself and, more importantly, the club.

I couldn’t care less about having a manager who is a nice bloke. It’s a bonus if he is, don’t get me wrong. But it’s far more important to be a fine football manager and tactician.

Give me a ruthless cսnt like Jose Mourinho over a million Graham Potters every day of the week.

You can find a decent man or woman on almost every seat in the stadium. It doesn’t make us good football managers.

The starting point is talent.

[Hello Mrs. Jones]

I've met Potter and he seems a very likeable bloke but ill-suited to be a football manager.
Graham, If your'e reading this, fall on your sword mate, for the good of yourself and, more importantly, the club.

[goose]

Nothing more pathetic than a poster coming back to a thread to say ‘I told you so’……… especially when they didn’t.

[Tomshardware]

People churning up old posts about who said what. As pathetic as the running of our club. 

Indeed. There are a lot of sad, pathetic stalkers on this forum.

Especially when it bites you on the arse, eh?

What does it matter? 

[Mad Dog]

People churning up old posts about who said what. As pathetic as the running of our club. 

Indeed. There are a lot of sad, pathetic stalkers on this forum.

Especially when it bites you on the arse, eh?

[Dick Shaftsbury]

Sunday Supplement - They're facing a full on relegation scrap

This was an interesting broadcast, who is that first journalist? Seems to really have our back and understand what's gone wrong. Hope he speaks up more in the press about this absolute shitfest.

The others made some good points about Potter too.

[Iron Duke]

Potter for me

[Come On You Irons]

People churning up old posts about who said what. As pathetic as the running of our club. 

Indeed. There are a lot of sad, pathetic stalkers on this forum.

[southbankbornnbred]

Just seen a clip of Nigel Reo Coker talking about what's wrong at West Ham and I'm paraphrasing here but in essence he said there's no legs and no dogs in midfield and he's spot the fuck on.

I’m assuming that was a heavily edited clip, Cough? As there is SO much more that’s wrong. But Reo-Coker is right about the midfield.

Utterly toothless and slow in central midfield. We needed the nastiest ball-winning fucker with some legs during the transfer window.

Instead we spent our biggest fee on Fernandes, who is a good player but wasn’t really what we needed if you were going to prioritise your spending. I’m not going to criticise him, because he’s got very good technique and he already works harder than most. But he’s basically a deeper-lying Paqueta, who we already had.

Then we signed a 21-year-old Monaco stiff who, let’s face it, nobody knows if he’ll be good enough. Again, I’ll reserve judgement on Magassa, as he’s barely played. But I hear from Rush Green that there are already a few doubts that he will be up to speed this season.

And we let Alvarez go - one of the few faces who didn’t mind mixing it up.

Oh, and we signed a keeper we absolutely didn’t need for £18m. He’s probably the third-best keeper now at the club.

As I’ve said many times, too much squad fodder, not enough high-quality starters.

And we are now missing leaders. Who is going to, to use Bonds’ term, “put their foot in” when serous tackles need to be made to swing games? Ward-Prowse? Rodriguez?! Don’t make me laugh.

If you have no ball-winning capacity in a Premier League midfield, you won’t stay in the Premier League for long.

I’d be tempted to promote Kante to the first team and see what he has. But that’s after spending the best part of £55m on your midfield.

Joke manager. Joke club.

[Far Cough UKunt]

Just seen a clip of Nigel Reo Coker talking about what's wrong at West Ham and I'm paraphrasing here but in essence he said there's no legs and no dogs in midfield and he's spot the fuck on.

[Billy Blagg]

An awful appointment from the first; a knee-jerk 'who's available now we've sacked Lopetegui?' decision that was never going to work. I was always wary of his ability, but asked a Chelsea supporting colleague about Potter when his appointment was mooted and this bloke - who'd supported the Blues from a boy (so way back before Gullit /  Abramovich and the Glory years) - was scathing on Potter and his ability and believed he was the worst manager he'd ever seen at Stamford Bridge. I thought he was being a bit harsh, but there has been absolutely nothing to suggest he was wrong. Even my friends' assessment that  'he has no understanding of how to manage a team where there is an expectation of success'  - something I thought might not affect Potter as much at WHU - has come back to bite. If he goes now, there may be hope of avoiding relegation, but if he doesn't, that's it.    

[Massive Attack]

but he can absolutely control what’s going on in the middle of the park and his weird loyalty to JWP is costing us and him. Everyone must be wondering what the fuck is going on. I don’t understand what potter thinks he brings to the team that no one else can with his absolute refusal to drop him but willingness to drop everyone else around him. 



 

 

 

I know what it is. In his logic he thinks it's wise to have as many "Leaders" on the pitch as possible, because that's what is most important when times are hard, regardless of if they have the legs like they once had or not (which Ward-Prowse doesn't).

Think about it, he doesn't select or trust the Academy kids, all ditched by the wayside. Yet he starts the season with the Argentinian donkey Rodriguez up at Sunderland in the middle who he mindlessly wanted to keep, Ward-Prowse plays every single game. To him these are vital old heads who he thinks you can still trust in this day and age in the Premier League all the time, even though the game has significantly moved on with speed, agility and stamina being crucial elements that can bypass any sav the oldens have. Not saying there isn't a place for leadership qualities in a Team but not at the expense you are having young superstars literally running rings around you with your walking sticks in the middle of the park enjoying your stroll. 

We need someone to come in who believes in our Academy players. To bring in some much needed high tempo energy and youthful innocence where their fearless attitude becomes infectious, instead of this doddery old Dads Army bollocks Potter keeps leaning on with his Dinosaur mindset.

Earthy, Marshall, Potts, Scarles should all be permanent fixtures on our bench. We need a manager who can also see that..

[fraser]

I genuinely cant believe potter has been this bad.  But then again its west ham and tower have the opposite of the midus touch

I would like to point out that the only reason I said potter would be a disaster as soon as he joined was so I could beat coyi to the punch as he was clearly going to do it early and say he called it.  

Likewise I really didn’t think he could be this bad particularly after the way it started with us all over Villa and looking like a totally different side from lop. Then he got JWP back off Forest and it all went utterly tits from then on. 

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Loppy picked the team against Villa as he was taking training on the Friday when the cսnt Sullivan was announcing the appointment 

[El Scorchio]

I genuinely cant believe potter has been this bad.  But then again its west ham and tower have the opposite of the midus touch

I would like to point out that the only reason I said potter would be a disaster as soon as he joined was so I could beat coyi to the punch as he was clearly going to do it early and say he called it.  

Likewise I really didn’t think he could be this bad particularly after the way it started with us all over Villa and looking like a totally different side from lop. Then he got JWP back off Forest and it all went utterly tits from then on. 

[Massive Attack]

To be fair I thought summerville had taken a knock

He seemed happy to carry on and looked irritated he was having to be taken off. Compounded even worse with taking off Fernandes as well who has looked good since arriving.

[El Scorchio]

Can’t understand Fernandes getting hooked and JWP staying on unless Fernandes was fucked? I didn’t get to the game as I was at a 40th. Two in a row Fernandes has come off a lot earlier than JWP. Inexplicable we’ve not seen Fernandes and Magassa on the field together yet. He can’t do a lot about the shit he’s been lumbered with at CB and CF barring not freezing Marshall out but he can absolutely control what’s going on in the middle of the park and his weird loyalty to JWP is costing us and him. Everyone must be wondering what the fuck is going on. I don’t understand what potter thinks he brings to the team that no one else can with his absolute refusal to drop him but willingness to drop everyone else around him. 

Should Nuno come in you know JWP will be right out of the side. 

 

[Mad Dog]

To be fair I thought summerville had taken a knock