Potter Sacked!

[THUNDERCLINT]

Had enough of this arogrant no mark now.  

11 games, 27% win ratio and 0.66 goals per game.

Either the break clause is true or this flake quits otherwise were proper fucked.

[Gary Strodders shank]

This prick needs to go and now.

Just heard his post match interview with the moose and its an absolute embarrassment 

He sounded like a sulky entitled schoolboy 
 
Bring someone in with a bit of character which is something we are well short of throughout the playing and coaching staff.





 

[Massive Attack]

Regarding the Academy, I know I labour the point about it but I do truly believe we have some serious talent within it right now. I've watched them religiously online when they're on and even saw for myself in person in front of a huge support in the FA Youth Cup Final at the Emirates just how special some of these players are not being fazed by the occasion - as well as win the League double and then a League Cup last year. And they were doing it against quality peers of their own, the likes of Nwaneri and Lewis-Skelly who to Artetas credit has trusted in them to make the grade and star for Arsenals 1st Team. Scarles, Earthy, Marshall were running rings around them, not just competing.

Not just doing it in the Acaedmy, Scarles also produced a fantastic debut in the Europa Conference League as a 16yo in Romania, Potts impressing against Larnaca, Scarles with 2 MotM performances last season, Earthy scoring in his 2nd Sub appearance after getting knocked out in his debut, as well as being Bristols Young Player of the Year last season. It's highly unlikely all these haven't got what it takes and I'd argue at least 2 of these are Premier League quality if given a proper chance. This latest crop of young talent is special and I'll stand by that claim, just as I did when I used to bang on about Rice impressing in the Academy. 

Potter or another Manager needs to tap in to it before they eventually get fucked off with it all and go elsewhere for a song..

[southbankbornnbred]

I hope 21-year-old French defensive midfielder Magassa is a really good player. Can't say I've seen much of him, but good luck to him now he's a Hammer.

But I'll stick my neck out and say we didn't really need to sign him this summer. Not least because we have 20-year-old French defensive midfielder Kante playing well in the stiffs - and he's only a year younger.

Take the approx £20m we spent on Magassa, and add the stupid £18m we spent on the new Allen McKnight, and we'd have had the best part of £40m to buy a top-class striker.

That's where the money should have gone. That and a centre half who can actually run, jump and head the ball. Not mentioning any names, Max Kilman...

It's a shame you weren't saying any of this a few months ago innit? To say we didnt need to buy a defensive midfielder is probably the stupidest shit I've read on here - the whole board has been screaming for midfielders for two years. You can't even compare this bloke and Kante, they're not even in the same stratosphere. You haven't got a clue what you want! 

 

 

Vexed, you haven't got a clue how good Magassa is - none of us have. Don't pretend like you know.

Yes, we needed midfielders with pace. But there are different types of midfielders. Realistically, none of us know what we've signed with Magassa. I hope he's a fine player. But don't pretend like you're some sort of super scout. Just fuck off back to a dark corner and shout at clouds for bit, like you do most days, mate.

[El Scorchio]

It's not that Potter doesn't play young players, it's more the fact he overlooks our own Academy players time and time again. Not just that though, he also paid through the nose to bring them in which is a high risk transfer strategy when we were supposed to be prudent with our limited funds at the time, having only just sold a genuine quality player in Kudus to help fund it all.

Magassa - £18M
Diouf - £20M
Fernandes - £42M

Around £80M on them 3 is a ridiculous amount of money for a Club like ours to spend on 3 very young players. And in the process he has also managed to block the pathways of our own Academy boys who have all shown serious promise themsevles. 

Now that's not to say they all won't do well, they can and hopefully they will. However me it's more the point about prioritising limited money we had at the time wisely on positions and players we needed more. 

I would have kept Emerson with Scarles as his perfect understudy learning from an excellent senior figure who's done it all in the game having shown huge promise already at the Club. Still proving his quality at Marseiile having an excellrnt game at the Bernabeu in the Champions League.

I also would have only signed 1 of those new Midfielders then had them fight it out with Potts as healthy competition in the middle of the park. That then allows our highly promising Academy players a realistic pathway in to the Team, instead of Potts bejng pushed even further behind struggling to make thmake changes at all now. It saves money and means we could then redirect funds elsewhere we desperately needed it like on a young decent proven Striker instead of cobbling together pennies towards ageing, injury prone Wilsons pension pot on a fucking Free, to go along with the other ageing, injury prone German Carthorse. 

The logic and priorities of both Macaulay and Potter has been a mess of a transfer strategy and I did point all this out at the time that it wasn't the way to go about it and proves they don't really care about our Acaedmy by clogging all pathways up to fuck for the likes of Scarles, Potts, Marshall, Earthy, Fearon. None of them rarely get a sniff on the bench, where he even chucks on a 2nd Keeper he recently re-signs after already telling him to fuck off, let alone any game time this season after 6 games now. Potts getting a pathetic half hour against Chelsea when we were getting battered was about it. And this is the same pair of clueless dickheads I had previously warned were cock-a-hoop about splurging £80M after scouting and bringing in a very young absolutely dogshit Forward at Chelsea that was already jam-packed full of Forwards.

What a fucking mess. How they are still in post, I have no idea..

 

 

It's also desperation to be fair, paying that much for players who are young with potential but ALSO ready to contribute now, because we're in such a mess. Would be nice to have the luxury to spend 5-6 million on them a year or two earlier more selectively and have them play alongside the academy kids with all of them improving each other. (and we could have had Fernandes for less than 1/4 of what we paid, only 12 months earlier) But of course Sullivan's little brain can't comprehend investing long term. Hence scrabbling around end of August and paying a premium.

You also need to look at what you've got coming through the academy and look honestly and frankly at the quality coming through and try to pinpoint which players you think genuinely have a chance of making it and which do not, and looking to buy to supplement that to keep a flow if possible of young players. If we were not always in crisis mode it would be easier to bring anyone through with less pressure on them and the senior playing staff.

Essentially this is another rant about the pathetic short term thinking at the club lurching from crisis to crisis and the first thing that goes is the luxuries like giving time to the youth players while you're in panic mode and as a manager trying to save your skin, unless you have a Rice or a Rooney dead cert cannot miss prospect coming through. I do understand that to an extent but the solution to so many of our problems is just having a long term plan and sticking to it. The kids need a stable environment to graduate into. It feels like at the moment we have a few who have earned a shot at the first team AND the current first team options are so weak that it actually makes sense, provided it wouldn't destroy them playing in such a fucking shit show. The chance should be there for Marshall, and Potts should be picking up 10-15 here and there. With all due respect to Irving it makes no sense he is getting those minutes. Were we in a position where a game was actually safe, we could be taking Diouf off and giving Scarles some time.

[Swiss.]

What I'm hearing from Hammers Chat is that they want to keep him for our next 2 unwinable games. WTF !!!!

So we have an unmotivated manager in a unmotivated team to go in the next 2 games. More stupid behaviour by the board. Sack this useless prick now and get in Keen/ Potts or even Noble as a caretaker manager. 

[Vexed]

I hope 21-year-old French defensive midfielder Magassa is a really good player. Can't say I've seen much of him, but good luck to him now he's a Hammer.

But I'll stick my neck out and say we didn't really need to sign him this summer. Not least because we have 20-year-old French defensive midfielder Kante playing well in the stiffs - and he's only a year younger.

Take the approx £20m we spent on Magassa, and add the stupid £18m we spent on the new Allen McKnight, and we'd have had the best part of £40m to buy a top-class striker.

That's where the money should have gone. That and a centre half who can actually run, jump and head the ball. Not mentioning any names, Max Kilman...

It's a shame you weren't saying any of this a few months ago innit? To say we didnt need to buy a defensive midfielder is probably the stupidest shit I've read on here - the whole board has been screaming for midfielders for two years. You can't even compare this bloke and Kante, they're not even in the same stratosphere. You haven't got a clue what you want! 

[Massive Attack]

The other fact about Potter and Brady/The Board regarding the Academy is they have ALL made a big play about how the Academy boys were going to be central in Potter’s rebuild of the Team and Squad under his management. He couldn't have gone a worse way of showing it and goes to show he's just as full of shit as the Board are with regards to broken promises. Lying cunts the lot of them.

[southbankbornnbred]

I hope 21-year-old French defensive midfielder Magassa is a really good player. Can't say I've seen much of him, but good luck to him now he's a Hammer.

But I'll stick my neck out and say we didn't really need to sign him this summer. Not least because we have 20-year-old French defensive midfielder Kante playing well in the stiffs - and he's only a year younger.

Take the approx £20m we spent on Magassa, and add the stupid £18m we spent on the new Allen McKnight, and we'd have had the best part of £40m to buy a top-class striker.

That's where the money should have gone. That and a centre half who can actually run, jump and head the ball. Not mentioning any names, Max Kilman...

[XKhammer]

Im really surprised he still ain't been sacked
It's now a matter of when not if

[southbankbornnbred]

It's not that Potter doesn't play young players, it's more the fact he overlooks our own Academy players time and time again. Not just that though, he also paid through the nose to bring them in which is a high risk transfer strategy when we were supposed to be prudent with our limited funds at the time, having only just sold a genuine quality player in Kudus to help fund it all.

Magassa - £18M
Diouf - £20M
Fernandes - £42M

Around £80M on them 3 is a ridiculous amount of money for a Club like ours to spend on 3 very young players. And in the process he has also managed to block the pathways of our own Academy boys who have all shown serious promise themsevles. 

Now that's not to say they all won't do well, they can and hopefully they will. However me it's more the point about prioritising limited money we had at the time wisely on positions and players we needed more. 

I would have kept Emerson with Scarles as his perfect understudy learning from an excellent senior figure who's done it all in the game having shown huge promise already at the Club. Still proving his quality at Marseiile having an excellrnt game at the Bernabeu in the Champions League.

I also would have only signed 1 of those new Midfielders then had them fight it out with Potts as healthy competition in the middle of the park. That then allows our highly promising Academy players a realistic pathway in to the Team, instead of Potts bejng pushed even further behind struggling to make thmake changes at all now. It saves money and means we could then redirect funds elsewhere we desperately needed it like on a young decent proven Striker instead of cobbling together pennies towards ageing, injury prone Wilsons pension pot on a fucking Free, to go along with the other ageing, injury prone German Carthorse. 

The logic and priorities of both Macaulay and Potter has been a mess of a transfer strategy and I did point all this out at the time that it wasn't the way to go about it and proves they don't really care about our Acaedmy by clogging all pathways up to fuck for the likes of Scarles, Potts, Marshall, Earthy, Fearon. None of them rarely get a sniff on the bench, where he even chucks on a 2nd Keeper he recently re-signs after already telling him to fuck off, let alone any game time this season after 6 games now. Potts getting a pathetic half hour against Chelsea when we were getting battered was about it. And this is the same pair of clueless dickheads I had previously warned were cock-a-hoop about splurging £80M after scouting and bringing in a very young absolutely dogshit Forward at Chelsea that was already jam-packed full of Forwards.

What a fucking mess. How they are still in post, I have no idea..

Er, this x1000.

As said, it's not that the new signings are bad players. I hope they turn out to be very good. But the way our limited funds were prioritised over the summer beggars belief.

We needed a top-class, younger striker to replace the ageing and then crocked Antonio - who had been (impressively) plugging a gaping hole in the squad for years. And we ended up with Wilson who, like Fullkrug, can't put 90 minutes together.

Calum Wilson of five years ago, sure. Good player. But we needed to sign the new Calum Wilson this summer. We'll probably sign James Milner next summer.

And I hate how our trophy-winning youngsters have been blocked from any access to the first team. Potts, Earthy and Scarles especially. Over time, all three could be decent Premier League players. But they need to play games at the highest level. If Josh Cullen (decent lad, Josh nothing against him) can play in the Premier League, then those three can - but they need to be backed and given some opportunities.

[Massive Attack]

Gary O'Neil??

 

[simons]

Nuno is the best of a bad bunch. I’m even prepared to forget his time in N17 which I’m sure he’s forgotten about too. The longer this goes on, the more unlikely he’ll come, imo. He’d probably be mad to come anyway, but nobody of any real quality is going near it, so here’s hoping. 

 

[Massive Attack]

It's not that Potter doesn't play young players, it's more the fact he overlooks our own Academy players time and time again. Not just that though, he also paid through the nose to bring them in which is a high risk transfer strategy when we were supposed to be prudent with our limited funds at the time, having only just sold a genuine quality player in Kudus to help fund it all.

Magassa - £18M
Diouf - £20M
Fernandes - £42M

Around £80M on them 3 is a ridiculous amount of money for a Club like ours to spend on 3 very young players. And in the process he has also managed to block the pathways of our own Academy boys who have all shown serious promise themsevles. 

Now that's not to say they all won't do well, they can and hopefully they will. However for me it's more the point about prioritising limited money we had at the time wisely on positions and players we needed more. 

I would have kept Emerson with Scarles as his perfect understudy learning from an excellent senior figure who's done it all in the game having shown huge promise already at the Club. Still proving his quality at Marseille having an excellent game at the Bernabeu in the Champions League.

I also would have only signed 1 of those new Midfielders then had them fight it out with Potts as healthy competition in the middle of the park. That then allows our highly promising Academy players a realistic pathway in to the Team, instead of Potts being pushed even further behind struggling to make the Bench at all now. It saves money and means we could then redirect funds elsewhere we desperately needed it like on a young decent proven Striker instead of cobbling together pennies towards ageing, injury prone Wilsons pension pot on a fucking Free, to go along with the other ageing, injury prone German Carthorse. 

The logic and priorities of both Macaulay and Potter has been a mess of a transfer strategy and I did point all this out at the time that it wasn't the way to go about it and proves they don't really care about our Acaedmy by clogging all pathways up to fuck for the likes of Scarles, Potts, Marshall, Earthy, Fearon. None of them rarely get a sniff on the bench, where he even chucks on a 2nd Keeper he recently re-signs after already telling him to fuck off, let alone any game time this season after 6 games now. Potts getting a pathetic half hour against Chelsea when we were getting battered was about it. And this is the same pair of clueless dickheads I had previously warned were cock-a-hoop about splurging £80M after scouting and bringing in a very young absolutely dogshit Forward at Chelsea that was already jam-packed full of Forwards.

What a fucking mess. How they are still in post, I have no idea..

[Rossal]

Must say i agree with O'Neil.  I was sort of being tempted by Carrick, but then Boro have had a uptake this season and I don't think Carrick is the man to install some passion and fight back into this club. 

Yes we need someone who can get us playing better, but I also think we need some emotion and passion injected back into the team and supporters from the dugout. 

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

The least worst is Gary ONeill.  Not low block football and kept B’Mouth and Wolves up with no money. Had a crap start in season 2 at Wolves, got 2 wins then sacked. 

 

You make it sound like he had a few bad games and got hastily sacked. It was two wins out of SIXTEEN. If you include the previous season it was 3 wins out of 26! His successor went on to win 10 out of 22 last year. That club clearly has problems but O'Neill doesn't come out of it looking particularly good. Bournemouth also improved a lot when Iraola took over from him. I just don't think there's anything in his CV so far to make him look like an attractive proposition. 

[El Scorchio]

He might be able to make Kilman slightly less shit. That would be nice.

 

Kilman is a conference league (the GM Vauxhall one) level player.  I still can't believe we paid so much for him, and then have given him a golden contract meaning we're stuck with him.

It's mind boggling. How on earth anyone saw a 40 million pound player worth 100k over 7 years there. I bet Wolves thought it was April fool's day until they saw Sullivan's signature.
And zero incentive to ever seek any other employment seen as he'll never get two thirds of that anywhere else on any new contract.

Still, only 5 years and 10 months left of it.

[Lee Trundle]

He might be able to make Kilman slightly less shit. That would be nice.

 

 

Kilman is a conference league (the GM Vauxhall one) level player.  I still can't believe we paid so much for him, and then have given him a golden contract meaning we're stuck with him.

[greenie1]

Is he still putting out the cones?

 

[Far Cough UKunt]

Kilman is a fucking coward.

[El Scorchio]

Nick on C & B might get things wrong but his rant on Saturday tells it like it is.  Sullivan , Brady and board are called out and Potter is symptomatic of their 15 years of failure. He’s right about the football too. 

Bilic will be a disaster. Nuno ball aint sustainable. 

The 6 month appointment will reduce our pool of managers out of work to the desperate.  

The least worst is Gary ONeill.  Not low block football and kept B’Mouth and Wolves up with no money. Had a crap start in season 2 at Wolves, got 2 wins then sacked.  Probably will fail but better than Bilic, Nuno imo.    Nuno does not have Gibbs White, Anderson, Hudson Odio, Elanga exceptional speed and/or strength. He wont do what he did at Forest.  GON looks like the only one who “might” “make a purse ( not silk mind ) from a rottimg pigs ear”.

Desperate times


 

He might be able to make Kilman slightly less shit. That would be nice.

[Lee Trundle]

The pool of managers we've been linked to have been pretty dreadful.

And I have no faith that Sullivan will employ anyone decent.

But I've got to the point where I think Potter is a big part of the problem why we're so shit.  If we get him out and replace him with an inanimate carbon rod then I think we'll be better.

[Dick Shaftsbury]

surely he must just be saying his goodbyes today, he cant be around much longer!

The players have signed his card, and the leaving drinks are arranged for this evening.

[Sir Alf]

Nick on C & B might get things wrong but his rant on Saturday tells it like it is.  Sullivan , Brady and board are called out and Potter is symptomatic of their 15 years of failure. He’s right about the football too. 

Bilic will be a disaster. Nuno ball aint sustainable. 

The 6 month appointment will reduce our pool of managers out of work to the desperate.  

The least worst is Gary ONeill.  Not low block football and kept B’Mouth and Wolves up with no money. Had a crap start in season 2 at Wolves, got 2 wins then sacked.  Probably will fail but better than Bilic, Nuno imo.    Nuno does not have Gibbs White, Anderson, Hudson Odio, Elanga exceptional speed and/or strength. He wont do what he did at Forest.  GON looks like the only one who “might” “make a purse ( not silk mind ) from a rottimg pigs ear”.

Desperate times

 

[Mad Ferret]

Admit it, who of us keeps coming on to this forum and checking to see if this thread has been changed to POTTER OUT - NOW CONFIRMED 

[Rossal]

Yes but your argument is nowhere given he plays youngsters if he thinks they're good enough. It's not like Moyes who wanted everyone to be about thirty with a mortgage before he'd play them. 

Potter is an absolute bellend but of the things to dig him out for this ranks pretty low on the list for me. 

But thats the whole point. If he doesnt think Earthy or Potts can offer more than Soucek, JWP , Irving and Rodriguez then a)  what is he seeing as we see in pre season he has a bit    b)  why not send him out on loan to continue their development? 

Same for Marshall, why did we have 3 CM's on the bench saturday over Marshall or Earthy

 

So your argument is not about youth at all it's about Potter's judgement of talent or lack of. That's been pretty well covered on here for about eight months, glad to see you've finally caught up. 

Of course its about youth. Its about Potter not seeing that our youngsters are better options than the shit we have to endure week in week out from so called first team players.