Potter Sacked!

[THUNDERCLINT]

Had enough of this arogrant no mark now.  

11 games, 27% win ratio and 0.66 goals per game.

Either the break clause is true or this flake quits otherwise were proper fucked.

[Fauxstralian]

Lee
Where he IS stubborn is his unbending love for JWP
and
His complete fear of giving young players a chance

The eye catching players in America were Potts & Fearon 
They along with Marshall seem to be in a witness protection program 

[El Scorchio]

Well Damien Duff KNOWS THE DIVISION and won the Irish league with Shelbourne so I'm sure that's got Sully's cock twitching and no mistake.

Oh and he's currently unemployed.

[Lee Trundle]

Which tells you all you need to know about what the bookies think of our hiring. 

I've just had a look.  Silva isn't even in the top 25.  There's some absolute shit on there ahead of him, though.

Damien DUFF
John O'SHEA
Danny ROHL

[Council Scum]

Which tells you all you need to know about what the bookies think of our hiring. 

[Lee Trundle]

Marco Silva is probably the best name I've seen us linked to, so far.

 

Looking at the betting odds, I'd not want any of them. 

Yeah, it's hardly an inspiring list.

[Council Scum]

Marco Silva is probably the best name I've seen us linked to, so far.

 

 

Looking at the betting odds, I'd not want any of them. 

[Mad Ferret]

Marco Silva is probably the best name I've seen us linked to, so far.

Already at a club, which means he won't be coming here.

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

I think that one of the problems with Potter, and why his teams don't take their chances, is that he tells his players not to shoot unless they feel sure that they will score. He'd rather they keep passing it around rather than risk losing possession.

What happens then is that attackers lose confidence in front of goal because it's no longer instinctive to shoot, so when they do eventually take a shot it's either from desperation or without any real conviction. This is one of the reasons why Potter's Brighton and Chelsea always underperformed their xG, by a lot.

[Lee Trundle]

Marco Silva is probably the best name I've seen us linked to, so far.

[stubbo-admin]

Fuck that xG shit. Potter's teams always have much higher xG than they actually score, so it's no cause to think that we'll score enough to see us all right. The longer he stays in charge the more likely it is we'll get relegated. It really is as simple as that.

We also are mid table for the 'big chances created' list as well, so it's not just xG (which I agree can be false as it's the accumulation of lots of meaningless chances sometimes).

But we're a midtable side at creating 'big chances' too, which are defined as:

"A situation where a player should reasonably be expected to score, usually in a one on one scenario or from very close range when the ball has a clear path to goal and there is low to moderate pressure on the shooter."

So we're middle of the pack in that respect.

- We're 2nd for Shots on target per match
- 13th for Big Chances (Total)
- 13th for xG
- 3rd for Accurate Crosses per match

[Pav BML]

I've wanted Silva for years. I feel like he knows he's probably taken Fulham as far as he can. We're a shambles atm but there's a higher ceiling here if  (big if I know) we can get our crap in order. Just pay the 8 million if there's a chance of getting him in now. If we're prepared to pay 20 million for Magassa, go and get him in now 

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

Fuck that xG shit. Potter's teams always have much higher xG than they actually score, so it's no cause to think that we'll score enough to see us all right. The longer he stays in charge the more likely it is we'll get relegated. It really is as simple as that.

[stubbo-admin]

It's also worth noting we're mid table in the xG stats.  So in theory our chance creation and goals output, whilst not likely to win us any silverware, would keep us comfortably in the division....so the real issue is at the other end....which seem obvious to say, but until I checked the STATS, I'd assumed we were equally shit at both ends.

Also....we've not just conceding more goals from corners than anyone else, but we're notably conceding more corners themselves.  Team are averaging ~25 corners across the 5 games so far.  We've conceded 40!

So it's not just defending corners, but putting ourselves in defensive positions where we don't give away corners too, whether that's channelling teams more centrally, or defending higher up the pitch.

[goose]

if (IF) Bilic to the end of the season means getting Silva next season then i'd be happy with that.
big risk though - what if Bilic cannot keep us up?

surely the more prudent thing is to pay the release clause for Silva now??

[stubbo-admin]

Interesting the narrative around this changing last few days...

We've gone from, "It will be Nuno, or Bilic, or maybe O'Neill/Dyche" to suggestions that we're interested also in Parker and maybe even Marco Silva who is out of contract at the end of the season.

Also suggestion that Kretinsky is more involved in the process, and maybe exerting more influence.

Could it be we'll 'pay' for a manager that's in a job?  Feels unlikely as it's always been a red-line for Sullivan, but maybe Kretinsky's involvement could see it be revisited?

FWIW I think if the process takes until the next International Break, but we get a better calibre of manager, that's no bad thing. 

In conjunction with that, I'd prefer we didn't have this dead man walking situation, but equally do we truly have 'good' candidates within the club to play role of Caretaker?  I think it's questionable....often when Club's do that it's one of the manager's coaching staff...but not sure I'm keen on Billy or the other incumbent's taking over.  Lastly, if Potter was somehow able to turn it around in the next two game....say picked up 4 points and also the team performances started to show some kind of consistency/positive patter, I'd not be against giving him until Xmas and beyond. 

Further mid-season turmoil is not ideal in a season in which we're seemingly gonna burn the time and last year of Paqueta (and probably the last year of Bowen's prime too, given his game does rely on athletiscism and short distance speed).

If Potter looked like he might get to the place that keeps us up, and Silva could be lined up for next season...that would be an ok trade off for me.  And maybe if the board need until the International Break to finalise all those things, that's ok.

[Lee Trundle]

One positive thing regarding Potter is that he doesn't seem too stubborn.

He's already ditched the 3 at the back, and also his expensive useless goalkeeper.

Both are pretty catastrophic mistakes, but at least he's quickly realised that.  Shame we wasted the summer and a load of money on each of them though.

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

Sullivan has gambled for too long and got away with it. Treated the club like a shit car that you patch up and spend as little on as possible. 

Thing is, in the last year or so he's spent about £130m on our back 4 and Goalkeeper, and our defence is worse than ever. Our net spend is generally higher than nearly all the teams outside the top 6. The amount spent is not the issue, it's how it's been spent.

A more accurate analogy is that Sullivan treats the club like a shit car that he spends lots of money on patching up but he just doesn't know how to do it so that it actually runs. He'll add some expensive shiny accessories to it while neglecting to spend anything on the engine (ie the manager) or even understand what kind of engine fits the car he's got.   

[Dick Shaftsbury]

It could simply be that his contract has a performance-related break clause : e.g. if the team is in the relegation zone after a certain number of games, the club can dismiss him with reduced or no compensation.
 

[Russ of the BML]

I won't be expecting Potter to go any time soon. Sulli is handcuffed. Money need to sack Potter and get Nuno isn't there. That's why there's been no action. Sulli is hoping that Potter picks up two wins next two games and it will all settle down. If he doesn't, which is likely, then we are truly fucked.

Sullivan has gambled for too long and got away with it. Treated the club like a shit car that you patch up and spend as little on as possible. Sadly, I think his mis-management has now cost us. Time is up. Too many bad decisions and too much incompetency has dug us in too deep. Potter will stay and we will go down. 

[Sir Alf]

Bilic has to be better at getting this squad to perform effectively. Just getting in a decent set piece coach alone would make a massive difference. But bless him, Bilic is not a successful manager. His record is average to poor aside from a season or two ( incl one with us).  Hiring managers, securing players based on relatioships or history with the club or sentiment is a recipe for disaster as we have shown over the last 15 years.  Sullivan does some kind of virtue signalling to say he doesnt pay for managers or coaches but we know its short term cost avoidance.  Its an act if self harm to the club and himself in reality.  His megalomania, ignorance, arrogance and monumental lack of self awareness are something to behold 

[Sydney_Iron]

Thought if he went it would be Monday, still keep reading the board are undecided and he still may go this week, Bilic wanted by Sullivan, others prefer Nuno.

For fuck sake, just get it done it’s obvious to just about everyone in the game his time is well and truly UP, stop dithering and do it.

[stubbo-admin]

Fat Sam says Potter has had bad recruitment and it’s difficult for him to get the best out of them…

forgetting that Potter has been here since Last  January…

Sees us being the weakest teams in the league…







 

Also forgetting that Potter's recruitment has been led by his own personal recruitment specialist who was hired at over the cost of 1 million quid.

Fat Sam....a big fat mess.

[honky cat]

I don't want to pile on with the hopelessness of it all, but the season has just started in most countries, so there can't be many managers looking for a new job after a handful of games. Anyone normal would have jumped ship during the break. They have to get cock piss out this week. We can't be seen to be throwing Everton and Arsenal or that will bring another load of trouble down the road. 

[Texas Iron]

Buyout of full .Nuno contract can’t be more than 10 to 12 Million…

Less than half he pays his Fiancée…

hahaha…

[Texas Iron]

Fat Sam says Potter has had bad recruitment and it’s difficult for him to get the best out of them…

forgetting that Potter has been here since Last  January…

Sees us being the weakest teams in the league…