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crystal falace
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"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."
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Lee Trundle
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Far Cough UKunt
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South. We both know the only thing that matters in New York is not too finish with a worse record than the “Other” team.! So it’s race to the bottom. With our schedule and Nabers out. A five win season is looking like a minor miracle. Like Sullivan. Mara needs to up and leave. His grandfather would be spinning in his grave.!
GO G MEN.
GO G MEN.
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southbankbornnbred
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Five wins now looks ambitious for the Jets this season. More like 2-4 wins. Which means there's a good chance we'll be a top10 pick in the draft again. And we can't waste that. We have to take a QB next April - but we need to make sure it's not yet another bust like Zach Wilson, or an underperformer like Mark Sanchez.
So, the green and whites need to send every good scout to review college QBs and nail the right leader with the right skill set and mentality. Even if it's a Matt Ryan type who isn't a headline grabber, but a passer who will hold down the starting job for 5+ years.
Fields is the epitome of Mr Inconsistent. I like him, as a filler QB for a season or two. But his passing game is often poor. He takes forever to go through his check-downs when his primary receiver (Wilson) is double-teamed, which is most of the time. He gets out of trouble with his legs, but he's a turnover risk. And you can't run an offense like that.
So, the green and whites need to send every good scout to review college QBs and nail the right leader with the right skill set and mentality. Even if it's a Matt Ryan type who isn't a headline grabber, but a passer who will hold down the starting job for 5+ years.
Fields is the epitome of Mr Inconsistent. I like him, as a filler QB for a season or two. But his passing game is often poor. He takes forever to go through his check-downs when his primary receiver (Wilson) is double-teamed, which is most of the time. He gets out of trouble with his legs, but he's a turnover risk. And you can't run an offense like that.
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El Scorchio" wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025, 13:27The amount of high picks or impact players and in particular WRs and backs who get really bad injuries or a succession of injuries at the Giants is mind boggling. There's either horrific luck or just something really wrong. None of the star players can ever stay healthy.
Barkley (never stayed healthy)
David Wilson
Steve Smith
Victor Cruz
Hakeem Nicks
Beckham
Nabers
Engram
Shepard
Ain’t no mind boggling about it Scorch. It’s down too tight arse owners. Who are happy to get the cheapest turf going. And couldn’t give a toss about their playing staff. (Sounds like something our beloved leader wouldn’t think of.?) It’s all about the money.!
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southbankbornnbred
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Just watched Glenn's post-game press conference, and he looks and sounds like he's been hit by a truck. The chutzpa has gone already, and I think he now realises how hard this is going to be.
That was always going to happen at some point. Any new HC has an inflated sense of what they will achieve from day one. That's normal in the NFL. Being a HC is SO much harder than anybody imagines until they do the job. So you see a classic phase of overconfidence before a chastising period. It happens to everybody - including Belichick etc.
What matters now is how he picks himself up from this and responds. I like the guy and I want him to do well. But, like every other HC before him (in the NFL) he now realises how tough - and unforgiving - this league is when you are the most senior coach. He was the #3 at Detroit (after Campbell and Johnson).
Now, if you have the bollocks, you respond by going up a level and really showing what you're all about.
That was always going to happen at some point. Any new HC has an inflated sense of what they will achieve from day one. That's normal in the NFL. Being a HC is SO much harder than anybody imagines until they do the job. So you see a classic phase of overconfidence before a chastising period. It happens to everybody - including Belichick etc.
What matters now is how he picks himself up from this and responds. I like the guy and I want him to do well. But, like every other HC before him (in the NFL) he now realises how tough - and unforgiving - this league is when you are the most senior coach. He was the #3 at Detroit (after Campbell and Johnson).
Now, if you have the bollocks, you respond by going up a level and really showing what you're all about.
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southbankbornnbred
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Four games into a new season under a new regime, and it's not looking good for the 0-4 Jets.
All the early promise of a new era under Glenn has dissipated and he looks stressed and under pressure already. I preface everything I'm gonna say with the observation that the Jets have to stick with a HC and coaching staff and give them a couple of years now. I like Glenn.
But, after a very promising first game against the Steelers, he is making the same mistakes that previous new HCs made. And these are mistakes that are all about basic coaching, discipline, formations, line-ups etc - all the things that are absolutely controllable for a HC.
The biggest example is penalties. Yet again, we gave away 100+ yards with 13 penalties last night. When you do that, you are giving away at least 7 points per game - most likely between 10-14 points. Because that's the distance you'd give up for a TD and field goal. And we do it every single match. Have done for years. It was a massive problem under Saleh and Glenn vowed to eliminate it. But it's getting worse.
Glenn needs to start dropping some poorly disciplined players. Even if, on paper, they are our "top" players. They're no use to a team that is giving up so many penalties that it is undoubtedly costing us wins.
All the early promise of a new era under Glenn has dissipated and he looks stressed and under pressure already. I preface everything I'm gonna say with the observation that the Jets have to stick with a HC and coaching staff and give them a couple of years now. I like Glenn.
But, after a very promising first game against the Steelers, he is making the same mistakes that previous new HCs made. And these are mistakes that are all about basic coaching, discipline, formations, line-ups etc - all the things that are absolutely controllable for a HC.
The biggest example is penalties. Yet again, we gave away 100+ yards with 13 penalties last night. When you do that, you are giving away at least 7 points per game - most likely between 10-14 points. Because that's the distance you'd give up for a TD and field goal. And we do it every single match. Have done for years. It was a massive problem under Saleh and Glenn vowed to eliminate it. But it's getting worse.
Glenn needs to start dropping some poorly disciplined players. Even if, on paper, they are our "top" players. They're no use to a team that is giving up so many penalties that it is undoubtedly costing us wins.
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Lee Trundle
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Tyreek Hill. 
I've had exactly the same kind of injury. The most pain I've ever been in.
I've had exactly the same kind of injury. The most pain I've ever been in.
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El Scorchio
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The amount of high picks or impact players and in particular WRs and backs who get really bad injuries or a succession of injuries at the Giants is mind boggling. There's either horrific luck or just something really wrong. None of the star players can ever stay healthy.
Barkley (never stayed healthy)
David Wilson
Steve Smith
Victor Cruz
Hakeem Nicks
Beckham
Nabers
Engram
Shepard
Barkley (never stayed healthy)
David Wilson
Steve Smith
Victor Cruz
Hakeem Nicks
Beckham
Nabers
Engram
Shepard
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Far Cough UKunt
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Far Cough UKunt
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Takashi Miike
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Far Cough UKunt
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Takashi Miike
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Far Cough UKunt
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Williams was the first black quarterback to both start and win a Super Bowl, doing so with Washington in Super Bowl XXII when they were known as the Redskins. He was named Super Bowl MVP after throwing four touchdowns in a single quarter.
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Takashi Miike
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southbankbornnbred
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southbankbornnbred
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At one point yesterday, I thought the Vikes would hit 60 points!
The Bengals are in real trouble without Joe Burrow.
The Bengals are in real trouble without Joe Burrow.
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Far Cough UKunt
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South. I don’t think drafting good players too bad teams is the problem. Just look at Barkley and Jones. FFS.! It’s as always start’s at the very top. And as I say.
“It’s basic plumbing. Shit trickle’s down.!
GO G MEN.
“It’s basic plumbing. Shit trickle’s down.!
GO G MEN.
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southbankbornnbred
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Another excellent Baker Mayfield performance, too. Such an underrated QB.
What could have been. We've had several opportunities to draft and sign that bloke. I swear he's the QB we should have gone after years ago, because everything about him has the "fuck you" needed to succeed in New York stamped all over it.
There are more talented QBs out there, of course. But the guy is willing to die on the field to get a win. And the rest of his team responds to that. He's the antithesis of some other QBs we've had in recent years.
What could have been. We've had several opportunities to draft and sign that bloke. I swear he's the QB we should have gone after years ago, because everything about him has the "fuck you" needed to succeed in New York stamped all over it.
There are more talented QBs out there, of course. But the guy is willing to die on the field to get a win. And the rest of his team responds to that. He's the antithesis of some other QBs we've had in recent years.