Nuno In

[Eerie Decent]

Welcome, Nuno son.

Not my first choice, wish we were more forward looking and all that. But he's here, and to be honest, he's probably what we need given everything we all know is wrong with the club and the team at present.

Positives are he was a goalkeeper, so he'll surely make the best decision on that front going forward. Hermansen has looked shocking, but those that had watched him regularly all rated him, so who knows, maybe in a different set up he might not be so bad, but expect Areloa to be first choice.

Brought Kilman into the Wolves team, and built him into a player we were stupid enough to pay £40mil for. Can't see if myself, but maybe he'll make him look competent, whatever way, the defence will improve under him. It can't not. And set pieces against us won't feel like penalty's.

He favours attacking fullbacks who get forward, and ours are suited to that. JWP won't start from now. The biggest positive of this appointment. He loves wingers, and we have one of the best in the league in Bowen, a rapid one in Summerville, and Guilherme will hopefully get some game time as back up in a style that will suit him. Fullkrug can maybe be our Chris Wood. Probably not, but lets hope so.

Ovbviously he's a counter attacking manager, but I don't think he's from the last 2 years of Moyes playbook. Hopefully it'll be the early version of Moyes, with quicker pressing and faster counter attacking. Let's fucking hope so. I remember Forest beating someone 7-0, and they scored loads of goals throughout the season.

The main problem remains, but fucking hell, this change was needed.

[Eerie Decent]

Possession is overrated, especially if you do nothing with the ball.

That's when it gets boring for me.

The decent season we had in 20/21 where we played this style under Moyes, we finished 6th with the 6th worst possession STATS in the league.  The football we played that season was exciting, I'm sure we'd all agree.

 

 

That's exactly where I'm at.

I think early on we're going to go ultra defensive, because he's no doubt watched us and he's got to sort that fucking defence out furst up. But longer term, he'll get some proper pace into that team and we'll be fast on the counter.

That was Moyes big problem towards the end, when he had Antonio still at it and quick enough up top, our counter was exciting. But we just didn't replace him, he got old quickly, and we didn't seem to buy anyone with proper pace. We were a counter attacking team with the slowest forward line in the league.

Nuno, by all accounts, loves pace in the team, so I expect that will be the focus in January. We do have Bowen & Summerville, and maybe Guilherme, so I think we'll now see the best of them. But outside of them we're slow, so we need some back up.
Traore incoming in January *taps nose*

[Swiss.]

Every time we get a new manager they are labelled, we've had the Spanish Moyes, the English Moyes and now the Iberian Moyes.

Here's the thing, it's lazy journalism.

During the Moyes reign we only had half a season where we played counter attacking, exciting football and that was during the Rice/Lingard/Bowen/Antonio era. Once he failed to get Lingard permanently he reverted back to type.

I think, I hope anyway, that Nuno will have us more like that and use the axis of Summerville/Bowen/Fernandes to expedite this. I'd also love to see Marshall up top but I can't see him doing this just yet. His plan, initially, will be to shore up the defence and grind out some points.

We shall see.

Agreed we had the players to play this counter attacking style with effectiveness that season. Also we scored a lot of goals from corners  basics that fraud Potter couldn't get right. 

Remember also Kilman was introduced to the first team squad by Nuno at Wolves. Maybe he can get a player out of him. 

[twoleftfeet]

Every time we get a new manager they are labelled, we've had the Spanish Moyes, the English Moyes and now the Iberian Moyes.

Here's the thing, it's lazy journalism.

During the Moyes reign we only had half a season where we played counter attacking, exciting football and that was during the Rice/Lingard/Bowen/Antonio era. Once he failed to get Lingard permanently he reverted back to type.

I think, I hope anyway, that Nuno will have us more like that and use the axis of Summerville/Bowen/Fernandes to expedite this. I'd also love to see Marshall up top but I can't see him doing this just yet. His plan, initially, will be to shore up the defence and grind out some points.

We shall see.

[Russ of the BML]

Yep Iberian Moyes (Portugal isn't in the Med)

BBC saying the same
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/arti ... q5w0rp8n1o

Good read, sounds like Nuno is better than Moyes at player relations, playing them in their best position to get the best out of them. I like that. But playing style sounds like a Moyes copy. 

Just hope he can keep it entertaining and doesn't end up boring us like Moyes.

You are being picky with the Med thing. Portugal has a coast on the Med. That'll do for me LOL!

Anyway, BBC article is decent and also pretty much backs up what most on here are saying around the low to mid block counter attack. Its not what I want to go back to but with Sullivan at the helm you just have to roll with it - He has no plan and we bounce from one manager and one style to another.

But if Nuno reverts to his favoured 4-2-3-1 are we looking at:

--------------------------  Fullkrug

Summerville----------Paqueta-----------Bowen

---------------Fernandes---------Magassa

Diouf---------Mavro----------Kilman------- AWB

-----------------------Hermandsen

[Lee Trundle]

Possession is overrated, especially if you do nothing with the ball.

That's when it gets boring for me.

The decent season we had in 20/21 where we played this style under Moyes, we finished 6th with the 6th worst possession STATS in the league.  The football we played that season was exciting, I'm sure we'd all agree.

[Mex Martillo]

Yep Iberian Moyes (Portugal isn't in the Med)

BBC saying the same
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/arti ... q5w0rp8n1o

Good read, sounds like Nuno is better than Moyes at player relations, playing them in their best position to get the best out of them. I like that. But playing style sounds like a Moyes copy. 

Just hope he can keep it entertaining and doesn't end up boring us like Moyes.

[Rossal]

Guess its the best 'freebie' we could have got. I certainly have a bit more hope of staying up now.  It will probably spell the end of JWP aswell after he sent him back to us last season so thats a huge bonus. 

My main worries are that our squad doesnt have the players to effectively play the counter attacking style he had with Forest and that he doesnt seem to give a fuck about playing youth players. Can't think of any that came through at Spurs or Forest. 

If he keeps us up great, but if our youngsters don't get developed then its another clanger from the dildo dwarf 

[Russ of the BML]

The Mediterranean Moyes. 

I like him. Seems a good guy and has experience. Did well at Wolves in providing them with the foundation to see where the 'Portugal' project got them. Think they were knocking on the door of European places one season. Totally bombed at Spurs as they just wasn't having his style and he wasn't given time. Took a while to get going at Forest but eventually got them into Europe.

But I am not sure he is the answer. We had the low block counter attack style with Moyes and it worked to a point but when it didn't it was awful. Forest averaged 35% possession last season - Are we happy to do that again? I must admit, I got very bored of watching the likes of Brentford, Everton, and Fulham passing the ball around for 90% of a match while we sit in. My daughter got bored of it too. 

I mean, I just don't know anymore - When you have an owner that only employs out of work coaches you are so limited to who you get and what you can achieve. 

Having said all that - He will be an improvement on Potter - So that's a positive,  although its setting the bar low. I think he will get us competitive at home at least and I think he will keep us in the PL. Beyond that, who knows?

[Massive Attack]

Smashing Brighton 7-0 last season with Forest is proof Nuno can take the handbrake off and go for the kill. Be nice to see some of that once the Team settles down understanding what he wants from them.

[Sir Alf]

A lot of us naturally assuming that Nuno will improve things since set pieces and box defending account for half our goals conceded. Nuno’s teams do tend to be like Moyes compact, solid although we wont include Moyes last season where we conceded 80 goals was it? We womt gave the ball much again but should expect Bowen and Summerville to profit from counter attscks and running into space. 

A word or two of caution though, this “mish mash” of a West Ham squad lacks a dominant keeper and only one real physical defender in Mavropanos. Kilman will be sat deeper with the team as a whole though so that should better suit him and his lack of pace.  Todibo will likely be looking for another club soon as Nuno not a lover of ball playing CBs who are not very physical and crap in the air.  This latter trait may also mean Igor staying on the bench as he has poor aerial ability according to his stats.  Even AWB isnt kniwn for his anility in thr air but has played as a CB if we get injuries to Mavro or Kilman

Up top there is no Chris Wood outlet. Fullkrug aint tyat goid aerially and in physical hold up play.  So not sure how Nuno will solve that? 

But overall just got to hope Nuno can get a few points on the board. There wont be a huge turnaround is my thinking but hopefully enough to get up a few places in the league until Jan when a striker, CB and even another central midfielder may be needed.  

[eusebiovic]

He'll probably go with...

                                       Areola
                ------ Wan Bissaka Mavro Kilman ------
Walker-Peters                                               Hadji-Diouf      
                                      Soucek
                       Fernandes         Paqueta

Bowen                          Fullkrug                    Summerville



 

I had a feeling Nuno would be a wily old cat, going for the old 12 man formation...

Ha! Well I fucked that up!

I was probably thinking drop Soucek and when we get the deep lying midfielder (Locatelli?) then it's one less centre back in exchange for that DM role. The basic gist though is I'm sort of in the right ball park minus 1 of course...

[Eerie Decent]

He'll probably go with...

                                       Areola
                ------ Wan Bissaka Mavro Kilman ------
Walker-Peters                                               Hadji-Diouf      
                                      Soucek
                       Fernandes         Paqueta

Bowen                          Fullkrug                    Summerville


 

I had a feeling Nuno would be a wily old cat, going for the old 12 man formation...

[eusebiovic]

I don't mind Nuno at all...He is certainly a capable, well organized manager. He's got his work cut out with our badly recruited, disjointed squad but will certainly make a big difference defence-wise. 

We'll be back to the low block Moyes style again but when he gets the team into a rhythm doing the right things at the right time keeping the lines tight and hitting on the counter, I think we will look a lot better. 

For the life of me I struggled to see what the Potter masterplan was other than to expect players who are second or third rate to be as tactically adaptable as a first class superstar - which isn't going to happen with our squad.

We'll have Bowen and Summerville to provide the pace on the break...we possibly need another deep lying midfield general (we're linked with Manuel Locatelli at Juventus) to allow Fernandes and Paqueta to shine with maybe Potts coming on regularly as a sub...but as usual we need to address the mobility issues in there as well as the perennial striker conundrum which remains unresolved under our illustrious ownership.

He'll probably go with...

                                       Areola
                ------ Wan Bissaka Mavro Kilman ------
Walker-Peters                                               Hadji-Diouf      
                                      Soucek
                       Fernandes         Paqueta

Bowen                          Fullkrug                    Summerville


Failing that, he might well give Igor Julio a go in defence so Wan Bissaka and Walker Peters will juggle the wing back in that case.

If Todibo's professionalism issues are anything to go by Nuno will have him in his cross-hairs from day one...mark my words.

[Massive Attack]

Speaks well (like they usually do) in his 1st interview here. I especially like the line about acknowledging it's about time the Team produced something for the Fans to get behind and when that happens the Fans will look after the Team. The Fans have done their bit on too many occasions and it's good that Nuno realises that already. He might have 2nd thoughts about what hell looks like when managing inside the Shithole but it's an encouraging start...

[scott_d]

Has any other club had 4 managers in less than 18 months?

I would put money on Watford.

[Eerie Decent]

The hopeless Greek has been our best defender this season by a mile.
 

[gpike]

Think we will see Igor instead of the hopeless Greek 

[Massive Attack]

Not sure about Soucek but I reckon Igor might get a run of games.

He also hasn't been badly scarred like the rest of our PTSD suffering Defenders so would bring a different mentality in to it. Potter idiotically ignored him for 2 games left on the Bench and he'd been here for 3 weeks and recently played in a 6-0 win in the Cup for Brighton. That's Potter logic for you.

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

I can see the point: Soucek can actually win headers and has the bottle to get in the way of shots blasted at goal. Apart from that I can't see him being anything but an absolute liability in that position, given the way he tackles and the fact that he turns like a truck. Any attacker with a bit of pace or skill would make a monkey out of him.

[goose]

Not sure about Soucek but I reckon Igor might get a run of games.

[Eerie Decent]

Here's a little prediction.. I reckon Soucek might be deployed at centre back.

The only thing he lacks there is pace, but if we're going to be a low block team, its not vital, and he's probably quicker than Kilman anyway. 

Would be a warrior there. The new Dawson. Or our version of Milenkovic.

[Massive Attack]

Anticipated Positives:
Anticipated Negatives:

• Defence first  - don't expect we'll be entertained with freeflow attacking football - like under Moyes

 

Shirley, anyone who disagrees that sorting out our defence should be our first priority hasn't been paying attention.

 

 

To be honest there is not a single department in the Team that doesn't need urgent attention first. That's how bad the mess left behind is.

Keepers - A fucking catastrophe 

Defence - A fucking catastrophe 

Midfield - A fucking catastrophe 

Attack   - A fucking catastrophe 

We haven't done well in any part of the pitch, it's a total shitshow wherever you look.


One tiny positive from that though is it can't get much worse, so Nuno has that to build on. People did say it couldn't get much worse under Potter taking over and yet we sit 2nd bottom which was a different kettle of fish.

[RootsRadical]

Some of you are deluded and never satisfied.
Stop fucking moaning FFS!

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Anticipated Positives:
Anticipated Negatives:

• Defence first  - don't expect we'll be entertained with freeflow attacking football - like under Moyes

 

Shirley, anyone who disagrees that sorting out our defence should be our first priority hasn't been paying attention.

[Alfs]

Has any other club had 4 managers in less than 18 months?

I'd hazard a guess that Watford have.