No to Digital ID

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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194
 

[Mike Oxsaw]

Sort of agree that some people banged up like the Tory bird was well OTT,but think the real extremists like jihadists ain't dealt with 
Also agree the media like BBC with spend tons of tax payers dosh on a snide to go undercover for 7 months in Charing Cross nick to get a handful of thick plod pissed off duty swearing,but totally ignoring millions of Muslims calling for jihad and when you get what happens in Manchester its suddenly the make believe far right fault....couldn't make it up unless you're ThickClit or Oxbore 

When people want some background on how governments and organisations, (plan to) use information it makes perfect sense to discuss the subject with people who have (had) a significant role working/studying such areas.

When people want to know the best way to push a broom around a factory floor, it makes perfect sense to ask joyo - real name Gary Savile-Harris.

Bet you sweep the Trannies off their feet

You care to stop infesting every post you respond to with your favourite hobby?

We all get it - you're absolutely besotted with ladyboys. It couldn't be clearer.

[XKhammer]

=12.35px"We ain't China ffs!
=12.35pxDon't understand the paranoia about this"


Try telling that to those who are/were banged up for posting hurty words on the internet.





 

Sort of agree that some people banged up like the Tory bird was well OTT,but think the real extremists like jihadists ain't dealt with 
Also agree the media like BBC with spend tons of tax payers dosh on a snide to go undercover for 7 months in Charing Cross nick to get a handful of thick plod pissed off duty swearing,but totally ignoring millions of Muslims calling for jihad and when you get what happens in Manchester its suddenly the make believe far right fault....couldn't make it up unless you're ThickClit or Oxbore 

When people want some background on how governments and organisations, (plan to) use information it makes perfect sense to discuss the subject with people who have (had) a significant role working/studying such areas.

When people want to know the best way to push a broom around a factory floor, it makes perfect sense to ask joyo - real name Gary Savile-Harris.

Bet you sweep the Trannies off their feet

[Mike Oxsaw]

=12.35px"We ain't China ffs!
=12.35pxDon't understand the paranoia about this"


Try telling that to those who are/were banged up for posting hurty words on the internet.




 

Sort of agree that some people banged up like the Tory bird was well OTT,but think the real extremists like jihadists ain't dealt with 
Also agree the media like BBC with spend tons of tax payers dosh on a snide to go undercover for 7 months in Charing Cross nick to get a handful of thick plod pissed off duty swearing,but totally ignoring millions of Muslims calling for jihad and when you get what happens in Manchester its suddenly the make believe far right fault....couldn't make it up unless you're ThickClit or Oxbore 

When people want some background on how governments and organisations, (plan to) use information it makes perfect sense to discuss the subject with people who have (had) a significant role working/studying such areas.

When people want to know the best way to push a broom around a factory floor, it makes perfect sense to ask joyo - real name Gary Savile-Harris.

[XKhammer]

=12.35px"We ain't China ffs!
=12.35pxDon't understand the paranoia about this"


Try telling that to those who are/were banged up for posting hurty words on the internet.



 

Sort of agree that some people banged up like the Tory bird was well OTT,but think the real extremists like jihadists ain't dealt with 
Also agree the media like BBC with spend tons of tax payers dosh on a snide to go undercover for 7 months in Charing Cross nick to get a handful of thick plod pissed off duty swearing,but totally ignoring millions of Muslims calling for jihad and when you get what happens in Manchester its suddenly the make believe far right fault....couldn't make it up unless you're ThickClit or Oxbore 

[XKhammer]

There's also 1.2billion people there, compared to 70mil here.

Considering the UK tops the charts for that sort of arrest by absolutely mental numbers, you could just use any other country you fancy, where you won't be able to use that argument.

Anyway, going by the rate we are with all that shit, we very much are going the way of China. That was the point.

If we are going the way of China there won't be as many doing bird  as you stated 
Seriously don't get your point ..you think its better in China what you say online or we are stricter?
Been to China twice and its very restricted to what you can access online...couldn't access BBC...well that's a bonus point l suppose for the cufflinks 

[XKhammer]

We ain't China ffs!
Don't understand stand the paranoia about this

How many people are in prison for saying words on the internet in China?

I'll give you a clue - it's a fuck ton less than here. And there's a fuck ton more people over there an all.

I'm sure that will be a comfort for the million or so Uigurs in internment camps.

Lol ...fair point 

[only1billybonds]

=12.35px"We ain't China ffs!
=12.35pxDon't understand the paranoia about this"


Try telling that to those who are/were banged up for posting hurty words on the internet.


 

[Eerie Decent]

There's also 1.2billion people there, compared to 70mil here.

Considering the UK tops the charts for that sort of arrest by absolutely mental numbers, you could just use any other country you fancy, where you won't be able to use that argument.

Anyway, going by the rate we are with all that shit, we very much are going the way of China. That was the point.

[zebthecat]

You have a point ED.
There is a reason why not many Chinese poeple are arrested for posting stuff on the internet as they know that their governnment area monitoring everything they do online as a matter of course. They are also limited to only Chinese government approved or owned sites.

[Eerie Decent]

What has that got to do with what I said?

[zebthecat]

We ain't China ffs!
Don't understand stand the paranoia about this

How many people are in prison for saying words on the internet in China?

I'll give you a clue - it's a fuck ton less than here. And there's a fuck ton more people over there an all.

I'm sure that will be a comfort for the million or so Uigurs in internment camps.

[Eerie Decent]

We ain't China ffs!
Don't understand stand the paranoia about this

How many people are in prison for saying words on the internet in China?

I'll give you a clue - it's a fuck ton less than here. And there's a fuck ton more people over there an all.

[Fauxstralian]

Don’t you know… Digital ID will be used to stop you buying meat & arrest you for not buying the new Taylor Swift album

[XKhammer]

We ain't China ffs!
Don't understand stand the paranoia about this

[Big head]

I remember years back, I had a debate with the legend that is JOHNSON about how we will eventually end up having an SCS system like China.

The introduction of digital Id is the first step, that digital Id will then have links to your bank accounts and replace Debit Cards, you will use this card to purchase goods - should you break the law for example, your SCS score will be impacted which could stop you from buying immaterial things like a bottle of water or food.

The above is going on as we speak in China. Won't be long before it's introduced here unless this current Government are overthrown or there's riots.

 

[zebthecat]

This will do absolutely nothing to stop people working illegally as they are outside the system in the first place.
This was one of Tony Blair's pet projects way back and has resurfaced for the new tech age.
Conspicuously there has been no mention of costs and patently no plan whatsoever as it stands.
It is just a back of a fag packet idea floated to solve a problem it cannot. It was mainly something to float to make a splash in the 24 hour news cycle.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Mu brother in law was head of IT for a top 10 FTSE company. He says they have done none of the analysis required. 

Of course they haven't done the required analysis - that will clearly point to a set of requirements that will not support the outcome they want (never mind what the country needs, what they want is all that counts).

They will, however, loudly proclaim that they are "taking action against immigration".

You can also bet none, if any, of the immigrants deported this last year came here on boats - recently or otherwise. Most will be those already known about living here on visa overstays.

[BRANDED]

Mu brother in law was head of IT for a top 10 FTSE company. He says they have done none of the analysis required. 

[WHU(Exeter)]

The Government/Public Bodies + IT = No thanks.

[dealcanvey]

Know very little about this but if there are as predicted up to/over 1 million illegal immigrants in the UK, how do we find out who they are?

I get this wont stop the boats or them coming but what about the ones that are already here illegally that remain undetected?

[OK_Guy]

The Government has responded to the petition you signed – "Do not introduce Digital ID cards"Government responded:

We will introduce a digital ID within this Parliament to help tackle illegal migration, make accessing government services easier, and enable wider efficiencies. We will consult on details soon.

The Government has announced plans to introduce a digital ID system which is fit for the needs of modern Britain. We are committed to making people’s everyday lives easier and more secure, to putting more control in their hands (including over their own data), and to driving growth through harnessing digital technology. We also want to learn from countries which have digitised government services for the benefit of their citizens, in line with our manifesto commitment to modernise government.Currently, when UK citizens and residents use public services, start a new job, or, for example, buy alcohol, they often need to present an assortment of physical documents to prove who they are or things about themselves. This is both bureaucratic for the individual and creates space for abuse and fraud. This includes known issues with illegal working and modern slavery, while the fragmented approach and multiple systems across Government make it difficult for people to access vital services. Further, there are too many people who are excluded, like the 1 in 10 UK adults who don’t have a physical photo ID, so can struggle to prove who they are and access the products and services they are entitled to.

To tackle these interlinked issues, we will introduce a new national digital ID. This is not a card but a new digital identity that will be available for free to all UK citizens and legal residents aged 16 and over (although we will consider through consultation if this should be age 13 and over). Over time, people will be able to use it to seamlessly access a range of public and private sector services, with the aim of making our everyday lives easier and more secure. It will not be compulsory to obtain a digital ID but it will be mandatory for some applications.For example, the new digital ID will build on GOV.UK One Login and the GOV.UK Wallet to drive the transformation of public services. Over time, this system will allow people to access government services – such as benefits or tax records – without needing to remember multiple logins or provide physical documents. It will significantly streamline interactions with the state, saving time and reducing frustrating paperwork, while also helping to create opportunities for more joined up government services. International examples show how beneficial this can be. For instance, Estonia’s system reportedly saves each citizen hours every month by streamlining unnecessary bureaucracy, and the move to becoming a digital society has saved taxpayer money.

By the end of this Parliament, employers will have to check the new digital ID when conducting a ‘right to work’ check. This will help combat criminal gangs who promise access to the UK labour market in order to profit from dangerous and illegal channel crossings. It will create a fairer system between UK citizens and legal residents, crack down on forged documents, and streamline the process for employers, driving up compliance. Further, it will create business information showing where employers are conducting checks, so driving more targeted action against non-compliant employers.

For clarity, it will not be a criminal offence to not hold a digital ID and police will not be able to demand to see a digital ID as part of a “stop and search.”

Privacy and security will also be central to the digital ID programme. We will follow data protection law and best practice in creating a system which people can rightly put their trust in. People in the UK already know and trust digital credentials held in their phone wallets to use in their everyday lives, from paying for things to storing boarding passes. The new system will be built on similar technology and be your boarding pass to government. Digitally checkable digital credentials are more secure than physical documents which can be lost, copied or forged, and often mean sharing more information than just what is necessary for a given transaction.
The new system will be designed in accordance with the highest security standards to protect against a comprehensive range of threats, including cyber-attacks.

We will launch a public consultation in the coming weeks and work closely with employers, trade unions, civil society groups and other stakeholders, to co-design the scheme and ensure it is as secure and inclusive as possible. Following consultation, we will seek to bring forward legislation to underpin this system.

Department for Science, Innovation and Technology

[THUNDERCLINT]

My expectation is that once this ludicrously delayed budget appears in late November & lands like a turd in the punchbowl that Andy Burnham will make his move to return to Parliament & oust Starmer
See where we are next year but if they don’t get any traction we are on our way to Farage in government & civil war like in America when Trump announces he is doing a third term

 

 

Civil War in Amercia, I'll look forward to seeing that play out.

The Left: "We declare war."

The Right: 200 million AR15 rifles locked and loaded in one synchronized movement.

The Left: After evacuating their bowels in unison, "please don't hurt us, you're not allowed to actually fight back, bullets are racist, homophonic, misogynist phallic symbols of the patriarchy, let's have a non contact pillow fight using sustainable, ethically farmed, fairtrade soy based synthetic feathers. "

[Lee Trundle]

My expectation is that once this ludicrously delayed budget appears in late November & lands like a turd in the punchbowl that Andy Burnham will make his move to return to Parliament & oust Starmer
See where we are next year but if they don’t get any traction we are on our way to Farage in government & civil war like in America when Trump announces he is doing a third term

Who do you obsess over the most, do you think?

Trump?
Farage?
Or the Royal Family?

[only1billybonds]

This ID bollox highlights Starmers complete contempt for the public. Does he really think the we believe this scheme has anything to do with stopping illegal immigration? He knows its a hot topic so he is using it to Polish this turd of an idea in the hope that we all say, 'great,bring the ID's in and no more small boats'.

Blair tried to introduce the ID cards years ago when small boats were unheard of, now we're supposed to swallow that they are the answer to this plague?


Fuck off!!

[Fauxstralian]

My expectation is that once this ludicrously delayed budget appears in late November & lands like a turd in the punchbowl that Andy Burnham will make his move to return to Parliament & oust Starmer
See where we are next year but if they don’t get any traction we are on our way to Farage in government & civil war like in America when Trump announces he is doing a third term