Nuno In

[Eerie Decent]

Welcome, Nuno son.

Not my first choice, wish we were more forward looking and all that. But he's here, and to be honest, he's probably what we need given everything we all know is wrong with the club and the team at present.

Positives are he was a goalkeeper, so he'll surely make the best decision on that front going forward. Hermansen has looked shocking, but those that had watched him regularly all rated him, so who knows, maybe in a different set up he might not be so bad, but expect Areloa to be first choice.

Brought Kilman into the Wolves team, and built him into a player we were stupid enough to pay £40mil for. Can't see if myself, but maybe he'll make him look competent, whatever way, the defence will improve under him. It can't not. And set pieces against us won't feel like penalty's.

He favours attacking fullbacks who get forward, and ours are suited to that. JWP won't start from now. The biggest positive of this appointment. He loves wingers, and we have one of the best in the league in Bowen, a rapid one in Summerville, and Guilherme will hopefully get some game time as back up in a style that will suit him. Fullkrug can maybe be our Chris Wood. Probably not, but lets hope so.

Ovbviously he's a counter attacking manager, but I don't think he's from the last 2 years of Moyes playbook. Hopefully it'll be the early version of Moyes, with quicker pressing and faster counter attacking. Let's fucking hope so. I remember Forest beating someone 7-0, and they scored loads of goals throughout the season.

The main problem remains, but fucking hell, this change was needed.

[Massive Attack]

No more pointless tactical shenanigans.

Clear instructions gets you clear results.

Everybody in their right position doing what they are good at and keeping the lines tight 

It's ain't hard. It's still going to be a tough season but hopefully the lesson has been learnt. 

This. A lot more of today please, Nuno. No more nutty shit ffs! Managed it well today under pressure to get a win which he did.

[nychammer]

lets hope that we have gotten past the 'getting to know you' stage and he's getting a tune out of the squad. Cant fault him today with that starting selection. Thought the defensive subs was too early but it did prove effective.

More of the same against Burnley and maybe we can have hope. 

[eusebiovic]

No more pointless tactical shenanigans.

Clear instructions gets you clear results.

Everybody in their right position doing what they are good at and keeping the lines tight 

It's ain't hard. It's still going to be a tough season but hopefully the lesson has been learnt. 

[honky cat]

Looked delighted with the win. 

Makes a change from cock piss.

Nuno in 

[Sir Alf]

Spot on southbank

Sullivan and Brady, like the rest of the board, dont look further than the end of their long noses ( its what happens when you lie a lot ). West Ham shares are just an asset in their portfolio. They are happy to just maintain Prem lge status and prop up the asset value. The Stadium, training grounds all irrelevant and just been used as collateral to mortgage and get cash which then, along with the TV revenue, is completed wasted with disasterous recruitment and reactive decision making. 

The whole operating model is founded upon pay day loans.  The conference win was a happy accident and nothing to do with anything Sullivan and co did or have done.  The only club in top level leagues where the owner is footballing CEO and DOF making football decisions and not a professional person in sight. 

No one, except a media outlet like Talkshite who’s model is to be obtuse, rile fans and get callers,  tries to defend them anymore.  We are an example of a failed football club in the modern era. Not the only one but one of the higher profile ones under the Mancs in that sense. 

I cannot understand how any true West Ham fan cannot be 100% behind the protests. Its rightly divorced from results because even if things pick up on the pitch it wont be sustained and Sullivan, Brady and board’s short termism will bring us back into a mess within a season or two.  

We wont easily be able to get Sullivan to sell. He uses the club as a hobby for him and his family and overvalues the club at an unrealistic price. This valuation is why he is supported in the board room imo. Greed one of those deadly 7 sins. 

A realistic compromise position is getting Sullivan and Brady to step away completely from day to day running of the club and nothing whatsoever to do with the footballing side.  Not fully BS out but half way there. 

“No more BS” !!
 

[southbankbornnbred]

Yep, it's all about results and not playing style from this point in the season.

We are in poor shape, squad-wise. Two aged, crocked strikers, inexperienced and unproven midfielders. Kilman. Etc.

Nuno is a better, more effective tactician than Potter. But he's going to have to make a silk out of a sow's ear - at least until January. What happens then will depend on where we sit in the table come 1 January.

Another disjointed, stop-start season set out ahead of us by mid-October. That's Sullivan and Brady's piss-stained watermark for you.

[Massive Attack]

Who knows what's going to quite happen under Nuno other than we were heading for relegation under the previous tit. With Nuno we've at least got half a chance of staying up now and should do so by getting closer to midtable. Not going to be pretty though for large spells. Sullivan's Modus Operandi.

[Sydney_Iron]

What has concerned me after seeing a Forest team fall apart under Ange (that he inherited from Nuno) although maybe jumping the gun here? Is the state of Forests defence and in particular at set pieces, they may have got away with it last season in part due to a very good attack, but seeing as this defensive weakness is a problem for us, can Nuno or is Nuno the right fit to fix it? 

[Mike Oxsaw]

Nuno needs to be able to address the issues he sees at the club the way Nuno thinks Nuno should address the issues at the club, not the way Sullivan thinks Nuno should address the issues at the club.

Rocket science? I don't think so.

Ego challenge? Absolutely.

[stubbo-admin]

Absolutely stinks of Sullivan. “Penny wise, pounds foolish” is Sullivan in a nutshell.  Yet more reasons to get this incompetent megalomaniac as far wway as possible  from the day to day running of the club. 

imo its a team thing. The coaches matter absolutely.  Just look at an old example which was Cloughy and Peter Taylor and old Cloughy never reached the heights he did when they worked together.  A more recent example and close to home, Moyes and Alan Irvine and to a far lesser extent Pearce. Our league form “fell off a cliff” a few months later and never recovered. 

Nuno looks like he’s a “hands on” coach which might mitigate the risks and it could be argued that the internal team from the U21s is more of an advantage but then again Mark Robson was on Moyes coaching team in his last season which hardly went well?

It comes down to whether Nuno would prefer his team around him or not? I suspect he would want some of them. Its clsssic Sullivan not to want to pay out sny mote on compensation to clubs for his teams which makes him like the fool he is for not wanting to pay £10 million gor Marco Silva or Iraola.  

It all leads back to the usual conclusion which is “BS Out” 

Talk is Nuno will also bring a couple of his own guys in too.

[Sir Alf]

Absolutely stinks of Sullivan. “Penny wise, pounds foolish” is Sullivan in a nutshell.  Yet more reasons to get this incompetent megalomaniac as far wway as possible  from the day to day running of the club. 

imo its a team thing. The coaches matter absolutely.  Just look at an old example which was Cloughy and Peter Taylor and old Cloughy never reached the heights he did when they worked together.  A more recent example and close to home, Moyes and Alan Irvine and to a far lesser extent Pearce. Our league form “fell off a cliff” a few months later and never recovered. 

Nuno looks like he’s a “hands on” coach which might mitigate the risks and it could be argued that the internal team from the U21s is more of an advantage but then again Mark Robson was on Moyes coaching team in his last season which hardly went well?

It comes down to whether Nuno would prefer his team around him or not? I suspect he would want some of them. Its clsssic Sullivan not to want to pay out sny mote on compensation to clubs for his teams which makes him like the fool he is for not wanting to pay £10 million gor Marco Silva or Iraola.  

It all leads back to the usual conclusion which is “BS Out” 

[Massive Attack]

Too fucking right an all as it's a very favourable run of 5 games next to try and get us back on track. Brentford, Leeds, Newcastle, Burnley, Bournemouth is a nice run to have. Plenty of points up for grabs. 

[El Scorchio]

And albeit very early days - although not so much for fat ange seemingly already on borrowed time - both managers on 0% wins between them whilst they both have fuck all of their own Staff to lean on.  

The staff thing is usual for Ange apparently. He inherits them. 
I think I'll let Nuno of his 0% just for now, seen as it's not been the easiest start- especially Arsenal- and it's no more than we realistically expected as opposed to what Forest would have. I'll be very concerned if it's still the case come the 9th November, but I expect one or two wins before then.

[Massive Attack]

And albeit very early days - although not so much for fat ange seemingly already on borrowed time - both managers on 0% wins between them whilst they both have fuck all of their own Staff to lean on.  

[El Scorchio]

It's probably Sullivan being tight (cutting his nose of to spite his face AGAIN seen as obviously Nuno's best chance of succeeding and keeping us up is having his own men.) however, I didn't know this, Ange doesn't have a staff and just uses the coaches already there apparently so this is a touch unique and he may have requested the coaching team all under contract stayed on. Also Marinakis might have just refused to release them to spite Nuno or is asking for stupid money- I can imagine he'd be like that and he's got the money to be able to be obstinate. Plus it's not the stupidest thing to deny a relagation rival of what they might need.

So it could be a combo of things. I would like to think it's more they are unavailable at the moment than Sullivan won't employ them but you never know. Perhaps we take them when fatty gets sacked from Forest and their new man brings their own people in (unless Marinakis pays to keep them sitting on their arses) If that happens and we don't, I'm going to imagine it's Sully but I'd be surprised if even he is that dumb and cheap..

[Gank]

Still on 0% win rate.

[Massive Attack]

Sullivan could be banking on Fat Ange not lasting for too much longer at Forest who are also right down there with us, waiting for them all to be sacked and replaced so he doesn't have to pay any compensation for their services. A high risk strategy to hope for instead of just reaching in to his legendary long pockets and just paying them out..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... djdj1340qo

[Fauxstralian]

Managers usually travel around with their own back room staff so this is unusual
Guess that means Fat Ange has Nuno’s old staff (while he lasts) 
Think when Frank took over at Tottenham he took most of his Brentford staff … except Keith Andrews

[Massive Attack]

It screams of instability at the Club and Sullivan being tight as fuck. Really not keen about disrupting the Academy when they've been nurturing talent so well in recent times. It's a cheap punt option the more I think about it that makes us look like a Circus, rather than a serious Footballl Club that knows what it's doing.  

[honky cat]

According to this nuno's old team are still at forest and contracted until the end of the season. Maybe they want to see the contract out, or have to. So maybe they'll join him eventually - or not. Depends if we stay up I suppose. In the meantime we have good men until then, who may stay on - or return to the youth set up.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/notting ... verein/703

[Alfs]

My belief is Sully is behind this, particularly after being burned by the compo he paid out to Loppy and Potter's staff, though I'm surprised that Nuno has agreed to it - if my hypothesis is correct.

Also, a great shame for the youths as they're a talented group who are doing well.

[XKhammer]

Fuck me some of you lot just find fault at everything 
Was this Sullivan or Numo's move???
Will it work or not???
I don't know but clearly some of you are in the know lol 

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

It's quite normal and a good thing to promote a youth team coach to the first team if he's deserving of the step up. To suddenly promote FOUR at once suggests that it's not about merit at all, just a quick and cheap short term solution. In the mean time the academy's coaching set-up has to be worse off, and the first team players must think that nobody gives a shit if they're being fobbed off with youth team coaches.

It's a farce. The club's being run more like a circus now than it's ever been.

[Massive Attack]

It didn't even cross my mind it was a money saving exercise, I just think he comes across as someone who doesn't need an entourage/yes men. It did fuck all good for potter, his old trusted's came across as useless. I'm sure Nuno will get a couple of portugeezers in at some point. I think it's a good move, he has solid coaches working with him who know the club inside out.

This is tighter than a ducks butt Sullivan we're talking about here with a history of cutting corners and avoiding having to pay compensation for Coaches if he can avoid it. Always hiring out of work managers tells you it's very plausible and I wouldn't put it past him telling Nuno as a condition that if he wants his super big salary that was reported for agreeing to the job then this could be part of the negotiation. 

I really don't think Nuno first had in mind working with Mark Robson, Billy Lepine, Steve Potts and Gerard Prenderville when out of work before considering going for the West Ham job prior to meeting Sullivan... 

For further context, this was his usual band of merry men he normally works with:

https://www.nottinghamforest.co.uk/news ... confirmed/



PS - Nuno has a history of not lasting long at Clubs. Something to keep an eye on.

[honky cat]

It didn't even cross my mind it was a money saving exercise, I just think he comes across as someone who doesn't need an entourage/yes men. It did fuck all good for potter, his old trusted's came across as useless. I'm sure Nuno will get a couple of portugeezers in at some point. I think it's a good move, he has solid coaches working with him who know the club inside out.