West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

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It will have been 16 days since we saw what football at the top end of things could look like by Arsenal, who made us look second class citizens in footballing terms.

This game is unusual this season, in so far as the bookies have us down as favourites to win.  Monday nigth, under the lights....but how empty will the bowl be.  With a boycott planned, kids for a quid, general sale tickets up for cheap, and Nuno's first home game, the atmosphere and attendance is anyone's guess.

Injuries wise, our Big Fucking German is big fucking injured again...reducing the options up front to the two Callum's.  Nuno chose to save ~86k in wages last time out, preferring the pace and mobility of Marshall over Wilson, and it will be interesting to see if he does the same thing here, or goes for a 'makeshift' centreforward.  And of course Soucek is back.

Other than that, there are no fresh concerns reported going into the weekend.

Predicted Starting Lineup:

Areola

Wan Bissaka   Mavropanos    Kilman    Diouf

Magassa

Fernandes             Soucek       Paqueta       Summerville

Bowen (c)

Subs: Hermansen, KWP, Igor, Potts, Guilherme, Marshall, Rodriguez, Wilson, Scarles

Predicted Score: 1-0 (Soucek)

COYI

 

 

[Rossal]

Rossknowsfuckall made to look a right cսnt!

Your username is spot on to be fair, you chase me round this site like a mad ferret 

[Mad Ferret]

Rossknowsfuckall made to look a right cսnt!

[Massive Attack]

You'll have the Johnston's Paint in a few years 

It was European Cups only a couple of seasons ago. 

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/match/_ ... ham-united

[Rossal]

You'll have the Johnston's Paint in a few years 

[Massive Attack]

Soucek this season has contributed fuck all, there is no debating that. 

You've just done it again geez.

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/match/_ ... -wanderers

I've been talking about the league with him and Paqueta. Who cares about that game in all honesty. 

I do. I want to see us competing for Cups.

[Rossal]

No I'm pointing out when he does do something good, it gets easily dismissed like it never happened. And it's happened often down the years which is why I feel the need to point out the times when he actually does contribtute. 

And I've compared them for the simple reason that I don't see half as much effort in cunting Paqueta off than Soucek gets when 1 has been contributing a lot more to the side. Tomas Scapegoat is the easy target though.

Soucek this season has contributed fuck all, there is no debating that. 

You've just done it again geez.

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/match/_ ... -wanderers

I've been talking about the league with him and Paqueta. Who cares about that game in all honesty. 

[Massive Attack]

 

Soucek is a passenger as when players like Paqueta get the ball he doesn't show for it most the time. He hides, he isnt brave enough to get the ball in tight areas. Isn't technical enough to take it and progress up the pitch or break lines with a pass. CAnt run to get close to players, cant get back the right side of the ball. Its a complete mess when he plays. 

I don't rate Paqueta much either if you read the other threads, so comparing them two for me is pointless. 

You've gave one example where he nearly assisted Bowen with a simple 5 yard sideways pass.   He has more red cards than goals and assists this season. You are massively clutching at straws. 

No I'm pointing out when he does do something good, it gets easily dismissed like it never happened. And it's happened often down the years which is why I feel the need to point out the times when he actually does contribtute. 

And I've compared them for the simple reason that I don't see half as much effort in cunting Paqueta off than Soucek gets when 1 has been contributing a lot more to the side. Tomas Scapegoat is the easy target though.

Soucek this season has contributed fuck all, there is no debating that. 

You've just done it again geez.

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/match/_ ... -wanderers

[Rossal]

Hang on, why can't Paqueta do his own running and passing, that's afterall what he's supposedly in the Team for? And yet it's Soucek who consistently bypasses his contributions in the side. Even this season he's only contributed to 1 less goal in all competitions and Paqueta takes all the Penalties scoring with 1 of them. Soucek doesn't get that luxury, all his goals come from elsewhere.

And you say he doesn't pass or contribute much else as a passenger (which isn't true), yet I gave clear example from the Brentford game where he got in the right position in a dangerous attacking area and assisted Bowen to almost score from our only effort on target. It gets overlooked but all his faults get amplified to the point we apparently play with "10 men" when he plays. 

 

Soucek is a passenger as when players like Paqueta get the ball he doesn't show for it most the time. He hides, he isnt brave enough to get the ball in tight areas. Isn't technical enough to take it and progress up the pitch or break lines with a pass. CAnt run to get close to players, cant get back the right side of the ball. Its a complete mess when he plays. 

I don't rate Paqueta much either if you read the other threads, so comparing them two for me is pointless. 

You've gave one example where he nearly assisted Bowen with a simple 5 yard sideways pass.   He has more red cards than goals and assists this season. You are massively clutching at straws. 

No I'm pointing out when he does do something good, it gets easily dismissed like it never happened. And it's happened often down the years which is why I feel the need to point out the times when he actually does contribtute. 

And I've compared them for the simple reason that I don't see half as much effort in cunting Paqueta off than Soucek gets when 1 has been contributing a lot more to the side. Tomas Scapegoat is the easy target though.

They're both getting criticised as theyve both been dogshit. Soucek this season has contributed fuck all, there is no debating that. 

[Massive Attack]

I do find him a bit of a phenomenon in that sense, I remember Everton away last season was absolutely useless that day then pops up with a cracking goal. 

He does pop up with a goal sometimes, but it seems to be getting less frequent. When he doesnt its just some headers and he is a passenger who we can't afford to carry. 

The team however would be better and PAqueta would be better to have someone who can run and pass and be more comfortable on the ball and allowing us to play through midfield. 

Hang on, why can't Paqueta do his own running and passing, that's afterall what he's supposedly in the Team for? And yet it's Soucek who consistently bypasses his contributions in the side. Even this season he's only contributed to 1 less goal in all competitions and Paqueta takes all the Penalties scoring with 1 of them. Soucek doesn't get that luxury, all his goals come from elsewhere.

And you say he doesn't pass or contribute much else as a passenger (which isn't true), yet I gave clear example from the Brentford game where he got in the right position in a dangerous attacking area and assisted Bowen to almost score from our only effort on target. It gets overlooked but all his faults get amplified to the point we apparently play with "10 men" when he plays. 

 

Soucek is a passenger as when players like Paqueta get the ball he doesn't show for it most the time. He hides, he isnt brave enough to get the ball in tight areas. Isn't technical enough to take it and progress up the pitch or break lines with a pass. CAnt run to get close to players, cant get back the right side of the ball. Its a complete mess when he plays. 

I don't rate Paqueta much either if you read the other threads, so comparing them two for me is pointless. 

You've gave one example where he nearly assisted Bowen with a simple 5 yard sideways pass.   He has more red cards than goals and assists this season. You are massively clutching at straws. 

No I'm pointing out when he does do something good, it gets easily dismissed like it never happened. And it's happened often down the years which is why I feel the need to point out the times when he actually does contribtute. 

And I've compared them for the simple reason that I don't see half as much effort in cunting Paqueta off than Soucek gets when 1 has been contributing a lot more to the side. Tomas Scapegoat is the easy target though.

[Rossal]

I do find him a bit of a phenomenon in that sense, I remember Everton away last season was absolutely useless that day then pops up with a cracking goal. 

He does pop up with a goal sometimes, but it seems to be getting less frequent. When he doesnt its just some headers and he is a passenger who we can't afford to carry. 

The team however would be better and PAqueta would be better to have someone who can run and pass and be more comfortable on the ball and allowing us to play through midfield. 

Hang on, why can't Paqueta do his own running and passing, that's afterall what he's supposedly in the Team for? And yet it's Soucek who consistently bypasses his contributions in the side. Even this season he's only contributed to 1 less goal in all competitions and Paqueta takes all the Penalties scoring with 1 of them. Soucek doesn't get that luxury, all his goals come from elsewhere.

And you say he doesn't pass or contribute much else as a passenger (which isn't true), yet I gave clear example from the Brentford game where he got in the right position in a dangerous attacking area and assisted Bowen to almost score from our only effort on target. It gets overlooked but all his faults get amplified to the point we apparently play with "10 men" when he plays. 

 

 

Soucek is a passenger as when players like Paqueta get the ball he doesn't show for it most the time. He hides, he isnt brave enough to get the ball in tight areas. Isn't technical enough to take it and progress up the pitch or break lines with a pass. CAnt run to get close to players, cant get back the right side of the ball. Its a complete mess when he plays. 

I don't rate Paqueta much either if you read the other threads, so comparing them two for me is pointless. 

You've gave one example where he nearly assisted Bowen with a simple 5 yard sideways pass.   He has more red cards than goals and assists this season. You are massively clutching at straws. 

[Metroplex]

I rated both Soucek and Coufal  during their first couple of seasons but not after that. I don't know if it's true that Covid played a role in Soucek's demise, but a player with such embarrassing limitations has  no business being in our first team.

I don't think its any coincidence that the only time we've played well under Nuno so far was away to Everton with no Soucek on the field

 

[Massive Attack]

I do find him a bit of a phenomenon in that sense, I remember Everton away last season was absolutely useless that day then pops up with a cracking goal. 

He does pop up with a goal sometimes, but it seems to be getting less frequent. When he doesnt its just some headers and he is a passenger who we can't afford to carry. 

The team however would be better and PAqueta would be better to have someone who can run and pass and be more comfortable on the ball and allowing us to play through midfield. 

Hang on, why can't Paqueta do his own running and passing, that's afterall what he's supposedly in the Team for? And yet it's Soucek who consistently bypasses his contributions in the side. Even this season he's only contributed to 1 less goal in all competitions and Paqueta takes all the Penalties scoring with 1 of them. Soucek doesn't get that luxury, all his goals come from elsewhere.

And you say he doesn't pass or contribute much else as a passenger (which isn't true), yet I gave clear example from the Brentford game where he got in the right position in a dangerous attacking area and assisted Bowen to almost score from our only effort on target. It gets overlooked but all his faults get amplified to the point we apparently play with "10 men" when he plays. 

[Massive Attack]

So you still think Soucek is the future? Laughable.

No and have repeatedly stated that when someone finally comes in and takes his place by producing better results then that is when I'm happy to see him remain benched. Until that moment, he's still 1 player I can trust and rely on helping our cause like he's proved time and again for 5 years now.

[Rossal]

I do find him a bit of a phenomenon in that sense, I remember Everton away last season was absolutely useless that day then pops up with a cracking goal. 

He does pop up with a goal sometimes, but it seems to be getting less frequent. When he doesnt its just some headers and he is a passenger who we can't afford to carry. 

The team however would be better and PAqueta would be better to have someone who can run and pass and be more comfortable on the ball and allowing us to play through midfield. 

[Metroplex]

So you still think Soucek is the future? Laughable.

[Massive Attack]

Soucek has a one man cult following. Anyone who thinks this team is ever going to evolve with that hopeless gimp on the pitch is deluded. 

What you making of all those goals he helped contribute towards as a predominantly Defensive Midfielder that does a lot of work defending around our own box? Or are you going to continue to overlook them like they're fuck all..

[Metroplex]

Soucek has a one man cult following. Anyone who thinks this team is ever going to evolve with that hopeless gimp on the pitch is deluded. 

[Massive Attack]

 

Soucek is just a God awful footballer.

Have you been in a coma these past 2 years? He's an embarrassment.

You talking to yourself?

24/25 - 35 apps - 9 goals - 2 assists 
23/24 - 52 apps - 10 goals - 3 assists

Making 24 goals in 87 apps (1 goal every 3.5 games) in the past 2 seasons for a predominantly Defensive Midfielder that gets through a shit load of Defensive work in our own box as well.

Off the back of helping us to win a major European Trophy. 

Paqueta <<<<< That's your man people should really be aiming their deep dissatisfaction at way before Soucek these past 2 years or so. His contributions have been abysmal. Souceks stats blows his contributions out the water. And Scapegoat only cost a fraction of his worth at £19M compared to £51M.

[El Scorchio]

Playing in such a piss weak team just highlights his weaknesses and nullifies his strengths. The worse we are, the more of a liability he is. IF we had some serious legs in midfield, he'd be worth it but he's a luxury player at the moment.

[Massive Attack]

Tomas Scapegoat at West Ham -

251 apps - 42 goals - 13 assists - 55 goals made altogether at a rate of a goal every 4.5 games. 1 Trophy. 3 deep European Cup runs.

That's on top of all the battling hard work he clearly gets through with all the injuries he has sustained for our cause down the years to this present day when so many other players have gone hiding.

When called upon, he always stands up to be counted. 

It's true his passing is limited but that's never been his game, it's always about leaving that side of the game to others like Rice or Paqueta down the years. His job is to compete and win the ball and score whenever he can which is a healthy rate compared to so many others that have failed by comparison. 

Fuck me Mr Gormless has an official cheerleader 

Just sick of him constantly being used as a scapegoat when he's clearly contributed a lot to our cause since being here.

We've actually suffered relegations, no Cup wins, no European Football for so long before he arrived and yet all that changed with him as a mainstay in the side for the past 5 seasons. 

I have no issue joining in with others stating his lack of passing ability but overlooking so much that he has done in those last 5 years being dismissive like we are always playing with "10 men" in the side at the top level is a joke and disrespectful to his efforts that are undeniable. And it's happened yet again during the Brentford match when he was seen throwing himself in harms way to win the ball back, assist Bowen for our only effort on target, as well as be hung out to dry left alone in Midfield once he took off both ineffective Ferandes and Irving who get bypassed for criticism by comparison to Tomas Scapegoat.

[stubbo-admin]

Tomas Scapegoat at West Ham -

251 apps - 42 goals - 13 assists - 55 goals made altogether at a rate of a goal every 4.5 games. 1 Trophy. 3 deep European Cup runs.

That's on top of all the battling hard work he clearly gets through with all the injuries he has sustained for our cause down the years to this present day when so many other players have gone hiding.

When called upon, he always stands up to be counted. 

It's true his passing is limited but that's never been his game, it's always about leaving that side of the game to others like Rice or Paqueta down the years. His job is to compete and win the ball and score whenever he can which is a healthy rate compared to so many others that have failed by comparison. 

Not saying he hasnt been a great servant he has.  But for a while now his limitations have a huge negative effect on the team and our performances. 

We are talking about wanting to be a top half premier league team with a bloke that can't pass or run at its heartbeat. It just doesn't work. He wouldn't start for any other team in the league.  Hope he pops up with a goal if Nuno does the unthinkable tomorrow night and starts him otherwise what else is he contributing?   It will be 6 games 0 assists 0 goals and 1 red card. 

 

 

 

 

I agree he's not a player for a top half team.  But we're not a top half team...we're a hoping yo finish 17th team....and in that context he's valuable.

[Metroplex]

Tomas Scapegoat at West Ham -

251 apps - 42 goals - 13 assists - 55 goals made altogether at a rate of a goal every 4.5 games. 1 Trophy. 3 deep European Cup runs.

That's on top of all the battling hard work he clearly gets through with all the injuries he has sustained for our cause down the years to this present day when so many other players have gone hiding.

When called upon, he always stands up to be counted. 

It's true his passing is limited but that's never been his game, it's always about leaving that side of the game to others like Rice or Paqueta down the years. His job is to compete and win the ball and score whenever he can which is a healthy rate compared to so many others that have failed by comparison. 

Fuck me Mr Gormless has an official cheerleader 

[Metroplex]

Areola
KWP Mavro Kilman Diouf
Fernandes Magassa Paqueta 
Bowen Wilson Summerville 

Really hoping not to see Soucek back for this one. For me he represents the past and was a major factor in what was a failing midfield. 
I don't mind which of the Callums starts, but either way, I would hope the other one gets a good half hour. 

 

Soucek is just a God awful footballer.

Have you been in a coma these past 2 years? He's an embarrassment.

[Rossal]

Tomas Scapegoat at West Ham -

251 apps - 42 goals - 13 assists - 55 goals made altogether at a rate of a goal every 4.5 games. 1 Trophy. 3 deep European Cup runs.

That's on top of all the battling hard work he clearly gets through with all the injuries he has sustained for our cause down the years to this present day when so many other players have gone hiding.

When called upon, he always stands up to be counted. 

It's true his passing is limited but that's never been his game, it's always about leaving that side of the game to others like Rice or Paqueta down the years. His job is to compete and win the ball and score whenever he can which is a healthy rate compared to so many others that have failed by comparison. 

Not saying he hasnt been a great servant he has.  But for a while now his limitations have a huge negative effect on the team and our performances. 

We are talking about wanting to be a top half premier league team with a bloke that can't pass or run at its heartbeat. It just doesn't work. He wouldn't start for any other team in the league.  Hope he pops up with a goal if Nuno does the unthinkable tomorrow night and starts him otherwise what else is he contributing?   It will be 6 games 0 assists 0 goals and 1 red card. 

[Massive Attack]

Tomas Scapegoat at West Ham -

251 apps - 42 goals - 13 assists - 55 goals made altogether at a rate of a goal every 4.5 games. 1 Trophy. 3 deep European Cup runs.

That's on top of all the battling hard work he clearly gets through with all the injuries he has sustained for our cause down the years to this present day when so many other players have gone hiding.

When called upon, he always stands up to be counted. 

It's true his passing is limited but that's never been his game, it's always about leaving that side of the game to others like Rice or Paqueta down the years. His job is to compete and win the ball and score whenever he can which is a healthy rate compared to so many others that have failed by comparison.