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threesixty
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Converting players…
I’ve always been impressed by a managers ability to convert players from 1 position to another and solve problems. Joe Linton from striker to midfield general etc..
Who would be a candidate for that in our team?
My shout would be AWB to Central Midfielder. Given that we have KWP who can play RB.
I just think he has the skill, can time tackles very well (better than anyone on the team) and has pace.
Everything we lack in the midfield.
Who else?
Who would be a candidate for that in our team?
My shout would be AWB to Central Midfielder. Given that we have KWP who can play RB.
I just think he has the skill, can time tackles very well (better than anyone on the team) and has pace.
Everything we lack in the midfield.
Who else?
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threesixty wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025, 15:38John Drake" wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025, 14:23 Have to say I'm staggered by the idea of Soucek as a centre back. Arguably he would win a few headed duals but the lack of pace and woeful passing/ control would surely be a massive liability.
And don't call me ShirleySometimes it’s more about positioning and timing than pace. You see it with Van Dyke. Not the fastest in the world but he’s always where he should be.
our current CD are not switched on enough.
Plus soucek can actually head the ball and is actually a goal threat from corners. I’m not sure any of our cd’s have scored yet? Maybe Mav ages ago?
Agreed, the amount of times our players switch off or lose their man is infuriating. You don't have to be rapid if you stay with your man and get to the ball first.
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threesixty
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John Drake" wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025, 14:23 Have to say I'm staggered by the idea of Soucek as a centre back. Arguably he would win a few headed duals but the lack of pace and woeful passing/ control would surely be a massive liability.
And don't call me Shirley
Sometimes it’s more about positioning and timing than pace. You see it with Van Dyke. Not the fastest in the world but he’s always where he should be.
our current CD are not switched on enough.
Plus soucek can actually head the ball and is actually a goal threat from corners. I’m not sure any of our cd’s have scored yet? Maybe Mav ages ago?
our current CD are not switched on enough.
Plus soucek can actually head the ball and is actually a goal threat from corners. I’m not sure any of our cd’s have scored yet? Maybe Mav ages ago?
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threesixty
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Sir Alf" wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025, 14:11 Worth yhinking about 360 but unlikely. Managers seem to do the “definition of insanity” routine a lot
My converted starting 11 with far less converts
Compact in midfield. Potts and Summerville to come on for Magassa and Wilson.
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KWP - Soucek - Kilman - Diouf
——AWB - Magassa - Todibo- Fernandes
——Bowen - Wilson
I think that’s a strong team. It’s the Paq thing that’s problematic. Is anyone there capable of scoring from outside the box like he did the other day or chipping a ball over the defence for Bowen? I know people want to drop him but his invention is crucial to us sometimes.
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Have to say I'm staggered by the idea of Soucek as a centre back. Arguably he would win a few headed duals but the lack of pace and woeful passing/ control would surely be a massive liability.
And don't call me Shirley
And don't call me Shirley
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Worth yhinking about 360 but unlikely. Managers seem to do the “definition of insanity” routine a lot 
My converted starting 11 with far less converts
Compact in midfield. Potts and Summerville to come on for Magassa and Wilson.
————/-/-/aerola
KWP - Soucek - Kilman - Diouf
——AWB - Magassa - Todibo- Fernandes
——Bowen - Wilson
My converted starting 11 with far less converts
Compact in midfield. Potts and Summerville to come on for Magassa and Wilson.
————/-/-/aerola
KWP - Soucek - Kilman - Diouf
——AWB - Magassa - Todibo- Fernandes
——Bowen - Wilson
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threesixty
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My converted team:
————/-/-/aerola
KWP - Soucek - Kilman - Diouf
——AWB - Todibo - Paqueta
——Bowen - Wilson - Summerville
Or
—————areola
——KWP-Soucek-Kilman
—————-Todibo
AWB - Paq - Diouf
——Bowen - wilson - Summerville
I feel like apart from maybe Potts are mid’s are just not strong enough. I think a mid with decent tacklers in Awb and Todibo + Paq will make it harder for teams to control the midfield. Which is always our problem.
————/-/-/aerola
KWP - Soucek - Kilman - Diouf
——AWB - Todibo - Paqueta
——Bowen - Wilson - Summerville
Or
—————areola
——KWP-Soucek-Kilman
—————-Todibo
AWB - Paq - Diouf
——Bowen - wilson - Summerville
I feel like apart from maybe Potts are mid’s are just not strong enough. I think a mid with decent tacklers in Awb and Todibo + Paq will make it harder for teams to control the midfield. Which is always our problem.
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southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025, 07:35John Drake" wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025, 00:13 Mads can become Nuno's latest technical innovation. The False 1.Isn’t he already a false #1?
Yeah, that was kinda the joke. Doh!
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John Drake" wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025, 00:13 Mads can become Nuno's latest technical innovation. The False 1.
Isn’t he already a false #1?
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Soucek as a CB.
Diouf as a box to box midfielder as he can’t defend.
AWB to a midfielder.
Diouf as a box to box midfielder as he can’t defend.
AWB to a midfielder.
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I thought this thread was going to be about religion, which reminds me that I read somewhere that at Twickenham stadium, Billy Graham tried to convert 100 people he managed 90 but 10 bounced back off the posts.
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Steve Potts could do a half decent job wherever he was played and despite his lack of inches was a very capable central defender.
Antonios strength pace and athleticism allowed him to be effective wherever he was played and turned out to be a very effective centre forward at his peak when converted by Moyes
George Parris would do a job wherever selected and give it his all.
Bonzo naturally became a centre half as the legs got older and continued to lead by example.
Tony Gale a midfielder at Fulham became a classy ball playing centre half who would much prefer to take a ball down on his chest rather than head it such was his class.
Hayden Mullins although primarily played in a defensive midfield role for us was signed as a utility player and could be called upon to fill in as a centre back even left back when required.
He was another very underrated player keeping Mascherano out the side.
All those mentioned above had something about them and would be prepared to give it a go.
Good lads one and all.
Antonios strength pace and athleticism allowed him to be effective wherever he was played and turned out to be a very effective centre forward at his peak when converted by Moyes
George Parris would do a job wherever selected and give it his all.
Bonzo naturally became a centre half as the legs got older and continued to lead by example.
Tony Gale a midfielder at Fulham became a classy ball playing centre half who would much prefer to take a ball down on his chest rather than head it such was his class.
Hayden Mullins although primarily played in a defensive midfield role for us was signed as a utility player and could be called upon to fill in as a centre back even left back when required.
He was another very underrated player keeping Mascherano out the side.
All those mentioned above had something about them and would be prepared to give it a go.
Good lads one and all.
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Geoff Hurst was the obvious one, inspired decision by Ron. Not a major change of position but I think Alan Dev was a right winger originally but I remember he played most of his career on the left. Martin Peters seemed to do well anywhere as he wore every shirt from 1-11. Outside West Ham Thierry Henri was probably one of the most sucessfull, as he joined Arsenal as a winger. And was it Harry who moved Bale up from left back to a flying winger?
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Bilic first played him there and Pellegrini developed him further.
https://talksport.com/football/2988687/ ... idfielder/
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Antonio and Arnautovic to CF were both hella successful.
Thank you, Mr Moyes.
Thank you, Mr Moyes.
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Arnie and Antonio. Arguably two of our best forwards in recent years. Mainly because we have been so bad at signing them but still Moyes done well to spot the potential there especially in Arnie who has played as an ST ever since.
Was it Moyes who moved Rice up to DM or Pellegrini?
Was it Moyes who moved Rice up to DM or Pellegrini?
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Steve Potts from a right back to a centre back was successful. I’d play KWP & AWB ahead of Kilman & Todibo they’re so poor. In fact I’d play almost anyone who can tackle ahead of those two. In an ideal world I’d never have to see either player in a West Ham shirt ever again.
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Strength
Pace
Agility
Ability
Smartness
How many of our players tick a majority of these boxes?
Our current midfield and defence ticks NONE
Pace
Agility
Ability
Smartness
How many of our players tick a majority of these boxes?
Our current midfield and defence ticks NONE
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If Nuno has anything to do with converting players after that last fiasco then it's a big fat no from me. That Full Back and Paqueta experiments will live long in the memory of how not to do it.
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I absolutely take the point about the horrible position we're in - and trying to find the right blend of players in midfield. We are hopeless in that key area at the moment and have been since Rice left.
But I just don't fancy the chances of most players in this squad being able to adapt to a brand new position, in a different part of the team, while we're in the middle of a huge dogfight for points. The fans will slaughter them. Especially if we try a full-back there ahead of Potts, for example.
Plus, AWB is our best right back. I know KWP has played pretty well there - and fair play to him: he's been better than I thought. But in terms of ability, AWB is the better player. He was class last season.
Play your best players in their best positions is surely the best starting point?
But I just don't fancy the chances of most players in this squad being able to adapt to a brand new position, in a different part of the team, while we're in the middle of a huge dogfight for points. The fans will slaughter them. Especially if we try a full-back there ahead of Potts, for example.
Plus, AWB is our best right back. I know KWP has played pretty well there - and fair play to him: he's been better than I thought. But in terms of ability, AWB is the better player. He was class last season.
Play your best players in their best positions is surely the best starting point?
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