NFL (since 2016)

[crystal falace]

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

[Lee Trundle]

The Dallas Cowboys player Marshawn Kneeland has died aged 24.  In his final game on Monday night, he scored his first career touchdown in the Cowboys’ 27-17 defeat against the Arizona Cardinals.

"On November 6, the Texas Department of Public Safety announced that Kneeland was involved in a police chase the night before, however the chase was terminated after losing sight of Kneeland's car. The vehicle was later found abandoned after being involved in a crash. Kneeland was found in the immediate area of the accident with what appeared to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound. His death remains under investigation."

[southbankbornnbred]

I think breece hall is another, very talented player on your roster. You also have to question the new head coach's judgement, that's even if he was consulted on those moves yesterday. If he wasn't, he maybe needs to get on the phone to dan campbell and head back to detroit

Hall is an excellent running back. But he’s been easier to block while we have a QB who takes too long to make his reads and throw the ball. Defenses just step forward a meter and block up the inside lines to stop the run. Because Fields can’t get past his first receiving option. So we’ve over-used our runners.

They’re good (Hall and Allen etc), though. Kansas offering only a 4th round pick for him was taking the piss. I’m glad we told them to fuck off. Even our stupid leadership aren’t THAT stupid.

[Takashi Miike]

[Takashi Miike]

I think breece hall is another, very talented player on your roster. You also have to question the new head coach's judgement, that's even if he was consulted on those moves yesterday. If he wasn't, he maybe needs to get on the phone to dan campbell and head back to detroit

[southbankbornnbred]

The serious point is that too many NFL fans - especially Jets fans - get over-excited at the thought of having multiple first-round picks.

It's just not compensation for losing really good players. Invariably, if even a good NFL side has five 1st rounders, they will waste a couple of them on over-rated, over-scouted rookies. It's just the way of it. One might be good and two might be great.

But we had two great players on the squad just yesterday. So what will we have gained, really?

The "jam tomorrow" "rebuild" is what snake oil salesmen hide behind when they have no idea what they're doing. (Or, in this case, Johnson & Johnson baby oil salesmen).

 

[southbankbornnbred]

Sorry, sbbb.  Made me chuckle the way the kid immediately wanted to follow the Colts.  Probably for the best. 

Ag ag ag!

Love that kid: at least he gives a shit. Few people inside that organisation do.

That foot stamp said everything!

[Lee Trundle]

Sorry, sbbb.  Made me chuckle the way the kid immediately wanted to follow the Colts.  Probably for the best. 

[southbankbornnbred]

Can't believe how passive Jets fans have been about yesterday's ridiculous trades. And the Jets have one of the more active, critical fan bases.

Two massive cock-ups that ensure the franchise won't be competitive until 2028 at the earliest (when the stockpile of rookie draft picks runs out). It was like selling Rice, Bowen and Paqueta on the same day - and then trying to tell everybody it's for the common good.

Basically, if that was West Ham, we would have been hurling coins and drinks at the board etc.

Goes to show how US sport is far less visceral and interventionist. And how the Jets have just been run into the ground by Woody Johnson. Even angry Italians from New Jersey have given up.

The "jam tomorrow" "rebuild" is the easiest thing in the world to promise in sport. And it almost never works. Doing the hard yards, building your team slowly, appointing the right coaches, having the right blend of rookies, experience and veterans...that's how you win in the NFL. Not the "rip it up and start again" bollocks that the Jets have been doing every couple of years since 1999.

I'm still fuming.

[southbankbornnbred]

Ag ag ag!

[Takashi Miike]

[southbankbornnbred]

as I know from personal experience, it matters little how many top picks you have if there are imbeciles making the selections, and developing the youngsters. you desperately need a new owner, much like the other new york team

Honestly, TM, I think Johnson should be investigated by the NFL at this stage. It looks to an outsider that he’s not even trying to make them competitive.

This is clearly a tank, by a team that was already really shit.  We’re well past the stage of wondering about that. Somebody needs to look into why he has chosen to make them even more uncompetitive at this stage.

Seriously, they’ve become an embarrassment to the league - and sport. Easily the most embarrassing team in a major sport.

[Takashi Miike]

as I know from personal experience, it matters little how many top picks you have if there are imbeciles making the selections, and developing the youngsters. you desperately need a new owner, much like the other new york team

[southbankbornnbred]

What the freakin' fuck?!

Strong rumours - from Adam Schefter - that we're now trading three-time pro-bowler Quinnen Williams to the fucking Cowgirls! Apart from Garrett Wilson, he's our best player!

What the merry fuck are Johnson, Mougey and Glenn doing?

This is obviously a tank. But they're ripping apart the few bits of the squad that are decent. We're going to have absolutely nothing left if they do this - except a billion draft picks that we'll fucking waste.

At a guess, this is Johnson going for yet another "jam tomorrow" rebuild - that never, ever work under him. And it's Mougey and Glenn ensuring they get a second year by blowing up the squad so that they can say "we're rebuilding".

At some point, you've got to put good players on the field. I'm a bit speechless, really. If this happens on the back of the Sauce deal, it's insane. It's like Nuno selling Paqueta, Bowen and Freddie Potts in January.

By my reckoning, we now have FIVE first round picks in 2026 and 2027 - and three second rounders.

That's all well and good. But at some point, you have to put good, established players on the field. We now just have Garrett Wilson - and he'll probably want to leave now that his mate Sauce has gone.

[southbankbornnbred]

What the freakin' fuck?!

Strong rumours - from Adam Schefter - that we're now trading three-time pro-bowler Quinnen Williams to the fucking Cowgirls! Apart from Garrett Wilson, he's our best player!

What the merry fuck are Johnson, Mougey and Glenn doing?

This is obviously a tank. But they're ripping apart the few bits of the squad that are decent. We're going to have absolutely nothing left if they do this - except a billion draft picks that we'll fucking waste.

At a guess, this is Johnson going for yet another "jam tomorrow" rebuild - that never, ever work under him. And it's Mougey and Glenn ensuring they get a second year by blowing up the squad so that they can say "we're rebuilding".

At some point, you've got to put good players on the field. I'm a bit speechless, really. If this happens on the back of the Sauce deal, it's insane. It's like Nuno selling Paqueta, Bowen and Freddie Potts in January.

[southbankbornnbred]

johnson needs to sell up

Honestly, if Sullivan and Johnson sell up in the same year (hopefully 2026), we should mark it with a public holiday.

Sullivan is easily the worst owner in football.
Johnson is easily the worst owner in American football.

[southbankbornnbred]

Basically, the Jets now have enough draft power to buy the #1 pick next year, even if we don't finish with the worst record (there's a good chance we will anyway).

I just hope that there's a generational QB talent in the 2026 draft.

[Takashi Miike]

johnson needs to sell up

[southbankbornnbred]

Fecking hell! The Jets just traded Sauce Gardner to the Colts for two first-round picks.

He's one of our best players - a lockdown CB on his best days and two-time all-pro. But I guess the new leadership team want to put their stamp on the squad and want to build "their" team using next season's draft. We now have FOUR first-round picks in 2026 and 2027. And, no doubt, they will be high picks because without Sauce we ain't going to win many more games this term.

Colts going all in behind Daniel Jones at QB and that defense. Which should now be even better with Sauce on the roster.

Always one step forward two steps back with the Jets. We'd just given Sauce a $120m wage deal.

[Takashi Miike]

Not only that, but it was also against us, in that stadium, and on exactly the same yardage line

Joe, did you ever look at the similarities between the Theisman & Alex Smith injuries?

I remember seeing the Theismann's injury at the time.
It was sickening. 

yes, like smith, properly snapped the leg. it helped that joe was such a tough bloke, alex was to be fair too. he came back and played again, was a great pro

[Far Cough UKunt]

Not only that, but it was also against us, in that stadium, and on exactly the same yardage line

Joe, did you ever look at the similarities between the Theisman & Alex Smith injuries?

I remember seeing the Theismann's injury at the time.
It was sickening. 

Those coincidences are spookily unreal.

[RBshorty]

Real shame about them Cowboys. It could get emotional.?

GO G MEN.

[zebthecat]

Very reminiscent of the RGIII bad and effectively career ending injury- wasn't that also in a game where he didn't need to be playing? Coaches have to be responsible with their running quarterbacks and to some extent protect them and save them from themselves.
Jaxson Dart feels like an injury waiting to happen as well. Too many risks taken. 

Not only that, but it was also against us, in that stadium, and on exactly the same yardage line

Joe, did you ever look at the similarities between the Theisman & Alex Smith injuries?

I remember seeing the Theismann's injury at the time.
It was sickening. 

[Takashi Miike]

Very reminiscent of the RGIII bad and effectively career ending injury- wasn't that also in a game where he didn't need to be playing? Coaches have to be responsible with their running quarterbacks and to some extent protect them and save them from themselves.
Jaxson Dart feels like an injury waiting to happen as well. Too many risks taken. 

Not only that, but it was also against us, in that stadium, and on exactly the same yardage line

Joe, did you ever look at the similarities between the Theisman & Alex Smith injuries?

[Takashi Miike]

That Daniels injury (dislocated elbow) is a bad one, TM.

Thankfully, it's not his throwing arm, or that's a potentially career-ending thing. But it will take him a lot of time, many months, to get his arm back up to strength. I'm presuming he's gone for the season now.

Such a shame, because he has been a breath of fresh air in the NFL. I hope he can get back to that level quickly. Dislocations are never good injuries in any sport. But particularly the NFL, because the impact is often so great there's always a chance of a recurrence.

 

 

he shouldn't have been out there, no idea what Quinn was thinking with the game out of control and his first game back. I like Dan but people are starting to question some of his decisions 

[Far Cough UKunt]

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