Fullkrug Speaks Out

[Cerveza Para Mi]

Well dolne to the bloke.  Unfortunately I didn't actually see his interview but imo he said some things that needed saying. There's clearly a divided camp and so I guess the question needs to be asked why the players who are, according to Fullkrug, not playing to instructions are still being picked. 

As many people have pointed out before there is no relegation danger so there is absolutely no downside to throwing a few kids and squad players into the team and leaving out the offenders..  Alvarez was missing completely from the squad yesterday, as was Wan Bissaka.  Apparently AWB picked up an in jury in  training, which explains his absence, but Alvarez is apparently leaving cryptic messages on social media saying something like "all will soon be revealed". That suggests he may be one of those soon out of the door.

But it's good that someone has had the balls to speak out..  There's clearly a lot wrong and sweeping shit under the carpet has nevcer been the right way to clear up a nasty smell.,

[Far Cough UKunt]

If we're signing unfit players, Antonio is still available?

[northbankboy68]

Threesixty know nothing quote:  "get him fit"

He is an overpaid profwssional footballer ffs!  Why do we keep buying unfit forwards!!

[fraser]

Fullkrug in his prime, in his mid-20s, was probably a good player.

Unfortunately, as is often the case with West Ham, we bought the 30+ injury-prone and overpaid version. Importantly, almost nobody else was in for him at that price and wage.

I always think that’s the big give away. If you don’t have to compete for a German international striker, and you get a free run at a transfer at a certain price/wage, then something’s amiss.

Edin Terzic, his last coach at Dortmund, had already made public that his lack of mobility was becoming an issue (although he used him well), and urged Dortmund to sign a more mobile striker. Then we bought him - expensively!

What is a mobile striker... Been so long I can't remember 

[southbankbornnbred]

Fullkrug in his prime, in his mid-20s, was probably a good player.

Unfortunately, as is often the case with West Ham, we bought the 30+ injury-prone and overpaid version. Importantly, almost nobody else was in for him at that price and wage.

I always think that’s the big give away. If you don’t have to compete for a German international striker, and you get a free run at a transfer at a certain price/wage, then something’s amiss.

Edin Terzic, his last coach at Dortmund, had already made public that his lack of mobility was becoming an issue (although he used him well), and urged Dortmund to sign a more mobile striker. Then we bought him - expensively!

[eusebiovic]

I could be wrong but none of them strike me as the kind to have ever played Football. Might sound trivial but when they preach to all and sundry on the Club website and the like it strikes me as very odd to take their expertise in the game seriously. If they are making a living out of it fair play to them. Not for me though. 

I think they are there in a secondary role to back up the recommendations of the scouts or manager. They look at the stats and work out if the number of appearances tally with whatever qualities that the position they play in requires. Ultimately what is most important is if the player tends to be on the winning side more often than not. It's ain't an exact science but that does tend to be an indicator of whether they will be able to affect a game or not.

[Massive Attack]

I could be wrong but none of them strike me as the kind to have ever played Football. Might sound trivial but when they preach to all and sundry on the Club website and the like it strikes me as very odd to take their expertise in the game seriously. If they are making a living out of it fair play to them. Not for me though. 

[onsideman]

I think our nerds are a pair of wankers. No offence
As well as Fullkrug they bigged up Hermansen, as you say, and they almost creamed themselves when we signed Magassa and, while the later may well prove to be a good signing in time, he's hardly blown me away

Analysis paralysis if you ask me. It's only fucking football, after all

[eusebiovic]

Who needs analytics or databases when you consistently pull such gems from the bottom of the agents spreadsheet.

The NERDS gave him a big thumbs up.  I'm not convinced by their calculations, considering they bigged up Hermansen also.

'Strong, intelligent and and deceptively skillful' | Niclas Füllkrug analysed | West Ham United F.C.

The nerds at Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth and even Palace managed to give those two examples an extremely wide berth so what excuse is there from our club? Does Sullivan employ the best nerds he can possibly find or just a few herberts who like to rock some wacky ties like the late David Gold?

[Lee Trundle]

Who needs analytics or databases when you consistently pull such gems from the bottom of the agents spreadsheet.

The NERDS gave him a big thumbs up.  I'm not convinced by their calculations, considering they bigged up Hermansen also.

'Strong, intelligent and and deceptively skillful' | Niclas Füllkrug analysed | West Ham United F.C.

[Massive Attack]

It was a Steidten panic buy late on in the window having failed to get Duran as he wanted mega riches from Saudi Arabia chucking away his promising Premier League career for the foreseeable.

Steidten raved about bringing him in having worked with him before at Werder Bremen yet didn't do a thorough enough due diligence on the perma-crocked carthorse. Because if he had then he wouldn't have pushed to bring him in on silly money and great expense to the Club with his track record and age. The risk was far too big to take.

[Swiss.]

We we desperate and instead of paying the extra 1--15m for Duran a young player with high sell on value potential the cheapskate owners decided on the old German crock. 

And they wonder why we think they are mismanaging the club? 

[Far Cough UKunt]

I swear some people on here are making out that Fullcrock is Gerd Muller reincarnated?

[eusebiovic]

He never was or is 1 of the best Strikers in the world. Not even close. A total myth that some got suckered in to believing when he arrived for big dough. His numbers aint even that good for a start, mainly doing it bobbling about in 2 Bunderdliga divisions. 

Coupled with his awful medical history I couldn't believe we were thick enough to buy him at 31 for silly money on a big 4 year contract.

We never, ever fucking learn....

He was nothing more than a bang average German striker who scored a few goals for Hanover, Bremen and Dortmund in one-off seasons. Most of his goals were in the second division and below. 

At 31 why give him a four year contract? A person that age is only really entitled to a 2 year contract plus optional 1 year extension. 

Who needs analytics or databases when you consistently pull such gems from the bottom of the agents spreadsheet.

[Massive Attack]

He never was or is 1 of the best Strikers in the world. Not even close. A total myth that some got suckered in to believing when he arrived for big dough. His numbers aint even that good for a start, mainly doing it bobbling about in 2 Bunderdliga divisions. 

Coupled with his awful medical history I couldn't believe we were thick enough to buy him at 31 for silly money on a big 4 year contract.

We never, ever fucking learn....

[threesixty]

If you're looking at his fitness then yeah, poor signing. But if you're looking at the player, then you have one of the best strikers in the planet when he's fit (yeah, I know , WHEN he's fit but again that's a different issue). If you're Germany's first choice striker at 100% you're definitely not 'shit' or 'useless' as has been said in the last few comments. Shows what a bunch of spastics West Ham supporters can be. You don't have a clue. He hasn't fit the system of the managers at West Ham so far which can be said for 50 other strikers and his ability to stay match fit is a problem, but useless and shit? If you think that, you should keep all your football opinions to yourself.

I get your sentiment. Although one of the best strikers on the planet is a bit of a stretch in my opinion. He is what I would call a 'traditional 9'. Big, powerful and a work horse. Quite honestly, I said at the time if we are looking for someone to supplement or replace Antonio, he was an ideal signing, especially off the back of a decent Euro's.

For me, the logic and reasoning of the signing was good. But, I agree with you. Anyone saying he is shit is just a thick cսnt. His fitness and injuries have been the issue. 

 

 

He sort of has to be one of the best because he’s the German no.9. It’s a major footballing nation that has won how many world cups? 
I think there is a lack of experienced no.9’s in world football anyways. We tend to have favoured wingers or attacking mid’s as our main goal scorers in the football world nowadays.
This has meant no.9’s need to do more than just goal hang and score etc. The modern game has needed players that make their own goals basically, not poachers. I barely see the winger cross the ball and striker header it thing anymore like we did in the 80’s and 90s.

I think Fullkrug will work if we can hold the ball up for longer. He isnt the guy who is going to run behind and play on the counter etc. But I think we can do better with a younger set of midfielders with more energy and a decent coach. 

[BerlingtonBertie]

Let’s see how many goals he gets this season wankers….
 

[Gank]

If you're looking at his fitness then yeah, poor signing. But if you're looking at the player, then you have one of the best strikers in the planet when he's fit (yeah, I know , WHEN he's fit but again that's a different issue). If you're Germany's first choice striker at 100% you're definitely not 'shit' or 'useless' as has been said in the last few comments. Shows what a bunch of spastics West Ham supporters can be. You don't have a clue. He hasn't fit the system of the managers at West Ham so far which can be said for 50 other strikers and his ability to stay match fit is a problem, but useless and shit? If you think that, you should keep all your football opinions to yourself.

I get your sentiment. Although one of the best strikers on the planet is a bit of a stretch in my opinion. He is what I would call a 'traditional 9'. Big, powerful and a work horse. Quite honestly, I said at the time if we are looking for someone to supplement or replace Antonio, he was an ideal signing, especially off the back of a decent Euro's.

For me, the logic and reasoning of the signing was good. But, I agree with you. Anyone saying he is shit is just a thick cսnt. His fitness and injuries have been the issue. 

You're right, it's hard to compare strikers and rank them. Like you, off the back of the Euros, he looked the perfect solution for the type of striker he is, and the attributes we needed.

[Russ of the BML]

If you're looking at his fitness then yeah, poor signing. But if you're looking at the player, then you have one of the best strikers in the planet when he's fit (yeah, I know , WHEN he's fit but again that's a different issue). If you're Germany's first choice striker at 100% you're definitely not 'shit' or 'useless' as has been said in the last few comments. Shows what a bunch of spastics West Ham supporters can be. You don't have a clue. He hasn't fit the system of the managers at West Ham so far which can be said for 50 other strikers and his ability to stay match fit is a problem, but useless and shit? If you think that, you should keep all your football opinions to yourself.

I get your sentiment. Although one of the best strikers on the planet is a bit of a stretch in my opinion. He is what I would call a 'traditional 9'. Big, powerful and a work horse. Quite honestly, I said at the time if we are looking for someone to supplement or replace Antonio, he was an ideal signing, especially off the back of a decent Euro's.

For me, the logic and reasoning of the signing was good. But, I agree with you. Anyone saying he is shit is just a thick cսnt. His fitness and injuries have been the issue. 

[Gank]

If you're looking at his fitness then yeah, poor signing. But if you're looking at the player, then you have one of the best strikers in the planet when he's fit (yeah, I know , WHEN he's fit but again that's a different issue). If you're Germany's first choice striker at 100% you're definitely not 'shit' or 'useless' as has been said in the last few comments. Shows what a bunch of spastics West Ham supporters can be. You don't have a clue. He hasn't fit the system of the managers at West Ham so far which can be said for 50 other strikers and his ability to stay match fit is a problem, but useless and shit? If you think that, you should keep all your football opinions to yourself.

[threesixty]

Is it worth binning him?
I think the problem he has had here is the same as pretty much every conventional striker has had for decades at this club. We just haven’t had any managers who know how to use no.9’s properly. We’ve had so many who have been decent elsewhere but somehow fail at West Ham. Chicharito, Scamaca, Haller etc. all did good numbers before coming to West Ham, all looked terrible when they came to us,

I actually think, rather than give him away free and take a huge loss on this guy, get him fit and get him coached properly to be useful.
It’s ridiculous how much money we lose binning off players at this club.

[Mad Ferret]

Would like to see him get fit and have a run of games.

Nuno might turn him into Chris Wood.

Certainly don't think we should be aiming him out on the cheap in Jan, when we literally only have 2 senior strikers.

[dealcanvey]

Need him gone aswell as Rodriguez.

 

[Far Cough UKunt]

Get rid of the useless Herman the German, cսnt.

[Lee Trundle]

I'd love to get rid of him.  His contract takes him to 35 years old.  He isn't any good for us at 32 years old.

Another ridiculous contract dished out from the idiot Sullivan.

[southbankbornnbred]

Will be interesting to see how Fullkrug is with a decent coach tbh. Chris Wood was a 1 in 3 striker before Forest. Was 1 in 2 after Nuno. 

He'll still be an out of his depth lumbering gutless sack of gappy toothed shit that has no business being in this league. Throw the cսnt in the stiffs, fuck his world cup ambitions, how about some fucking do your job ambition you ugly fucking donkey? 

I completely agree with this! Fullkrug has been a poor signing by any measurement. But what I find ridiculous is that he now wants to try to keep his place in Germany’s World Cup squad by leaving so that he can go to a weaker league and score a few tap-ins. But, reportedly, he’s asking to keep as much of his Premier League money as possible.

If you want to go to the World Cup, mate, get fit, start playing well for your current club who are paying you handsomely - and score some fucking goals in a proper league. That’s your job. You lazy, immobile hack.