The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[THUNDERCLINT]

Lol you and thinking don't go together ThickClit 

Post the word cripple and as if by magic the raspberry raping nonce appears.

"raspberry raping"????..I've never been anywhere near Oxbore!
He's more your type 

But you're not denying you nonce kids? ... Interesting.

[XKhammer]

 

Is it wrong that the idea of the labour backbenches having a tear up immediately made me think  ...

Lol you and thinking don't go together ThickClit 

Post the word cripple and as if by magic the raspberry raping nonce appears.

"raspberry raping"????..I've never been anywhere near Oxbore!
He's more your type 

[THUNDERCLINT]

They'll have to join a very long orderly cue for that, what with all the Labour backbenchers scrapping amongst each other to get to the front of it currently.

 

Is it wrong that the idea of the labour backbenches having a tear up immediately made me think  ...

Lol you and thinking don't go together ThickClit 

Post the word cripple and as if by magic the raspberry raping nonce appears.

[XKhammer]

Legal action. We're well past that. Time they staged a coup and put the state on trial.

They'll have to join a very long orderly cue for that, what with all the Labour backbenchers scrapping amongst each other to get to the front of it currently.

 

Is it wrong that the idea of the labour backbenches having a tear up immediately made me think  ...

Lol you and thinking don't go together ThickClit 

[THUNDERCLINT]

Legal action. We're well past that. Time they staged a coup and put the state on trial.

They'll have to join a very long orderly cue for that, what with all the Labour backbenchers scrapping amongst each other to get to the front of it currently.

 

 

Is it wrong that the idea of the labour backbenches having a tear up immediately made me think  ...

[Massive Attack]

Legal action. We're well past that. Time they staged a coup and put the state on trial.

They'll have to join a very long orderly cue for that, what with all the Labour backbenchers scrapping amongst each other to get to the front of it currently.

[THUNDERCLINT]

Legal action. We're well past that. Time they staged a coup and put the state on trial.

[Nutsin]

[XKhammer]

unbelievable leftie idiot 

[Fauxstralian]

Stuff happens
A lot of people didn’t like that guy

Trump on the Saudis (ie the bodyguards of the Crown Prince) chopping up the journalist Khashoggi 
 

[Nutsin]

If true you can all expect even more misery 
across the UK.

well done to all those who defend the invaders.

https://fb.watch/DtIz41gk6C/?mibextid=wwXIfr&fs=e

[Nutsin]

Well said that man!

[THUNDERCLINT]

So.

As a prelude to what will be a very unpalatable Labour budget all round, we have a co-ordinated character assignation of Farage, clearly orchestrated to divert the newshounds away from governmental bad news.

Oh, wait! I'm only a voter. Too stupid to see things like that for what they are..

It's just so desperate. I wonder where they dug these clowns up from, why it took 50 years to make the allegations and which hole kweer promised them a go on for the favour.

[Mike Oxsaw]

So.

As a prelude to what will be a very unpalatable Labour budget all round, we have a co-ordinated character assignation of Farage, clearly orchestrated to divert the newshounds away from governmental bad news.

Oh, wait! I'm only a voter. Too stupid to see things like that for what they are..

[THUNDERCLINT]

Give it a fortnight and it'll be a labour policy.

[Nutsin]

[Nutsin]

[Massive Attack]

[Mike Oxsaw]

Your very lucky l ain't a grass unlike you when worked TV detector vans..ironically lol 

You fall for it every time. You NEED to fall for it every time. You're clearly MY bitch.

Any chance of you showing respect for your fellow posters and moving this grudge onto PM instead of spamming up every thread?

"Enter at own risk"...did you read that on thread title?
Plus I'm making fair point about digital ID cards which I'm all for and clearly you're not which l understand would financially affect you 
Sorry if this triggers and upsets you....actually I'm not Sorry at all its hilarious 

What "risk" do you perceive I'm at from posting on this thread? That you will post more unfounded and unproven/un-provable shit on me? I can live with that, bitch.

So. ID cards, digital or otherwise, I've had to hold, by law, with no issue, since I first started working/living abroad as an expat are a problem for me? Only in YOUR head.

ID card in the UK? No issue for me, don't need one as the Government have all the information they need and I'm no longer working....hold that thought.

Following your apoplectic tirades I had a look at my details and realised that I'd not supplied my Dutch So-Fi number to the pensions people.

Done that now and as a result my pension will go up even more. Ching! Ching! & thanks! Buy you a beer next time you see me in The Bull.

Still not prepared to take this out of the public domain and onto PM on here, I notice. Now. Why could that be?

[XKhammer]

And we can all see that you have absolutely zero knowledge and experience of living and working abroad.

Incidentally, all UK pensioners are specifically excluded from being required to hold a Karmercard, so how would that impact me?

Your very lucky l ain't a grass unlike you when worked TV detector vans..ironically lol 

You fall for it every time. You NEED to fall for it every time. You're clearly MY bitch.

Any chance of you showing respect for your fellow posters and moving this grudge onto PM instead of spamming up every thread?

"Enter at own risk"...did you read that on thread title?
Plus I'm making fair point about digital ID cards which I'm all for and clearly you're not which l understand would financially affect you 
Sorry if this triggers and upsets you....actually I'm not Sorry at all its hilarious 

[Mike Oxsaw]

We all know why you don't want the digital ID cards because it would catch you out wouldn't it!

And we can all see that you have absolutely zero knowledge and experience of living and working abroad.

Incidentally, all UK pensioners are specifically excluded from being required to hold a Karmercard, so how would that impact me?

Your very lucky l ain't a grass unlike you when worked TV detector vans..ironically lol 

You fall for it every time. You NEED to fall for it every time. You're clearly MY bitch.

Any chance of you showing respect for your fellow posters and moving this grudge onto PM instead of spamming up every thread?

[XKhammer]

 

If they have a legitimate job offer and are sponsored by the employer, no problem, but there's already an immigration channel/path set up for such cases.

Additionally, there's probably a legal requirement for councils to address homelessness and these illegal immigrants would be the easiest to deal with, and doing so hits targets/ticks boxes.

On the issue if ID cards, no it won't help if (IF) someone is working cash-in-hand below the radar, and the CPS is already overwhelmed with a backlog of cases, so even if it is introduced in theory, in practice it would probably take many years for such cases to reach the review and assessment stage.

If someone can't get work, given that they've already committed an offence by entering the country, it wouldn't be that surprising if a fair percentage of these people turn to (more) crime for support if they can't work (but are free to wander around the community to commit that crime). Guaranteed that such data won't be available though.

And the one-in-one out policy has already been identified as flawed, so that's another waste of taxpayers' money; add in the fact that France doesn't seem too keen to keep such people within it's own national boundaries and it's clear that the solution needs to be 100% home-grown and home-driven.

As for reallocation of resources, the NHS has got to find 1 billion (1 BILLION!!!) pounds to pay for the redundancy of a handful of managers and administrators. Instead of paying them off, open up an avenue for these people to move into a department that helps address illegal immigration and there's an instant win-win for the government (but not the State).

We all know why you don't want the digital ID cards because it would catch you out wouldn't it!

And we can all see that you have absolutely zero knowledge and experience of living and working abroad.

Incidentally, all UK pensioners are specifically excluded from being required to hold a Karmercard, so how would that impact me?

Your very lucky l ain't a grass unlike you when worked TV detector vans..ironically lol 

[Fauxstralian]

If someone is working as a desk jockey in the NHS you can’t ‘transfer’ them into UK ICE to hunt illegals
Youd effectively be making them redundant and have to pay them off

 

[Mike Oxsaw]

Mike
Isnt the concern people coming in and getting benefits & housing rather than them coming in and working?

Apart from acknowledging that anyone travelling from France (ie a safe country) isn’t a refugee you don’t think making refugee status a temporary thing isn’t an improvement?
Or that introducing a Digital ID  & prosecuting anyone employing someone without one also would help

More resources are obviously needed
Perhaps in the modern era of communications we could decrease the number of MP’s from 600 to 60 & the rest could be employed rooting out illegal workers. 

 

If they have a legitimate job offer and are sponsored by the employer, no problem, but there's already an immigration channel/path set up for such cases.

Additionally, there's probably a legal requirement for councils to address homelessness and these illegal immigrants would be the easiest to deal with, and doing so hits targets/ticks boxes.

On the issue if ID cards, no it won't help if (IF) someone is working cash-in-hand below the radar, and the CPS is already overwhelmed with a backlog of cases, so even if it is introduced in theory, in practice it would probably take many years for such cases to reach the review and assessment stage.

If someone can't get work, given that they've already committed an offence by entering the country, it wouldn't be that surprising if a fair percentage of these people turn to (more) crime for support if they can't work (but are free to wander around the community to commit that crime). Guaranteed that such data won't be available though.

And the one-in-one out policy has already been identified as flawed, so that's another waste of taxpayers' money; add in the fact that France doesn't seem too keen to keep such people within it's own national boundaries and it's clear that the solution needs to be 100% home-grown and home-driven.

As for reallocation of resources, the NHS has got to find 1 billion (1 BILLION!!!) pounds to pay for the redundancy of a handful of managers and administrators. Instead of paying them off, open up an avenue for these people to move into a department that helps address illegal immigration and there's an instant win-win for the government (but not the State).

We all know why you don't want the digital ID cards because it would catch you out wouldn't it!

And we can all see that you have absolutely zero knowledge and experience of living and working abroad.

Incidentally, all UK pensioners are specifically excluded from being required to hold a Karmercard, so how would that impact me?

[XKhammer]

Mike
Isnt the concern people coming in and getting benefits & housing rather than them coming in and working?

Apart from acknowledging that anyone travelling from France (ie a safe country) isn’t a refugee you don’t think making refugee status a temporary thing isn’t an improvement?
Or that introducing a Digital ID  & prosecuting anyone employing someone without one also would help

More resources are obviously needed
Perhaps in the modern era of communications we could decrease the number of MP’s from 600 to 60 & the rest could be employed rooting out illegal workers. 

 

If they have a legitimate job offer and are sponsored by the employer, no problem, but there's already an immigration channel/path set up for such cases.

Additionally, there's probably a legal requirement for councils to address homelessness and these illegal immigrants would be the easiest to deal with, and doing so hits targets/ticks boxes.

On the issue if ID cards, no it won't help if (IF) someone is working cash-in-hand below the radar, and the CPS is already overwhelmed with a backlog of cases, so even if it is introduced in theory, in practice it would probably take many years for such cases to reach the review and assessment stage.

If someone can't get work, given that they've already committed an offence by entering the country, it wouldn't be that surprising if a fair percentage of these people turn to (more) crime for support if they can't work (but are free to wander around the community to commit that crime). Guaranteed that such data won't be available though.

And the one-in-one out policy has already been identified as flawed, so that's another waste of taxpayers' money; add in the fact that France doesn't seem too keen to keep such people within it's own national boundaries and it's clear that the solution needs to be 100% home-grown and home-driven.

As for reallocation of resources, the NHS has got to find 1 billion (1 BILLION!!!) pounds to pay for the redundancy of a handful of managers and administrators. Instead of paying them off, open up an avenue for these people to move into a department that helps address illegal immigration and there's an instant win-win for the government (but not the State).

We all know why you don't want the digital ID cards because it would catch you out wouldn't it!