Brighton vs West Ham | PL | 7.12.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

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Well it's a fast turnaround for this one.  After a hard fought, but somewhat disappointing point at Old Trafford, we head to the south coast for an arguably more difficult looking game on paper.

Brighton have been a bogey side since they arrived in the division, as well as being the envy of many fans for their progressive owner and stellar recruitment model.

Teamwise, Nuno gets to 'bring' Paqueta back (I won't use the term 'welcome'), and the messaging around Summerville remains opaque at best.  Plus as to what happened to Guilherme who knows, but with both him and Igor missing we went from a squad of 3 Braziliians to none versus Man Utd in one fell swoop.

This leaves at least a decision around Soucek, but if Summerville (or Guilherme) were to be available, another decision around 2 of 3 from Fernandes, Magassa, and Potts.

Predicted Lineup

I'm working on the basis that Paqueta will come back in, and Summerville will at best be fit for the bench:

Areola

Wan Bissaka  Mavropanos  Todibo  Diouf

Magassa  Potts

Bowen   Paqueta   Fernandes

Wilson

Subs:  Hermansen, Kilman, KWP, Irving, Kante, Earthy, Guilherme, Summerville, Marshall

Predicted Score:  Brighton 2 - 1 West Ham

Brighton remain high up in the current form table, scoring twice as many as they concede.  West Ham are midtable over the last 5 games, are at a scoring ratio of roughly 1:1.

Hard to see anything but a defeat here, but we have a punchers chance (all be it, the blows themselves are fairly lightweight and will need to find the Brighton chin with surgical precision to knock them out).

[Rossal]

Better than what? I can't help it if people are saying it. I was cringing watching him run about against Leeds. People are going on as if Nuno has viable options he's ignoring, it's pathetic. 

I'm no great fan of the style of football, and I do wish we would go for games a bit more, but I'm also aware that the manager has been at the club for 10 games, he's got 1 striker that can contribute who happens to be 33, 2 wingers, 1 of who is the only player in the squad with real pace but is injury prone, and 3 centre backs who before he turned up, didn't look like they were good enough to play for Canning Town vets.

He is working with the most poorly put together squad in the league, who were not only losing under Potter, but getting absolutely slapped at times, and were on course to battle it out with Wolves for rock bottom, a Wolves team who caved us in if you rememberin the cup.

Give him a transfer window, let's hope at least 3 bodies come in, and get behind him. None of this is his fault for fuck sake, he's making the best of a fucking catastrophe of a squad he's been given.

Better than pathetic digs and snides for cheap points. 

All of our options are shit, but its better to bring on a shit winger or striker up front than have to bring on a 7th or 8th choice CM there. It's that simple. 

He is working with a tough squad, but when he played Irving (twice), played inverted wing backs, fills the bench with players that won't be used, names a baffling line up every three games....... well he makes a hard job even harder.......and its not Potter or the players or the owners fault...... its all on him, he is in charge and he has had some right howlers when it comes to making decisions and big calls. Let alone the points he has thrown away already. 

He has made us  look better at times, but we have also stunk the place out under him.  We need some more bides in Jan then hopefully we can turn more decent performances into wins. 

[fraser]

Better than what? I can't help it if people are saying it. I was cringing watching him run about against Leeds. People are going on as if Nuno has viable options he's ignoring, it's pathetic. 

I'm no great fan of the style of football, and I do wish we would go for games a bit more, but I'm also aware that the manager has been at the club for 10 games, he's got 1 striker that can contribute who happens to be 33, 2 wingers, 1 of who is the only player in the squad with real pace but is injury prone, and 3 centre backs who before he turned up, didn't look like they were good enough to play for Canning Town vets.

He is working with the most poorly put together squad in the league, who were not only losing under Potter, but getting absolutely slapped at times, and were on course to battle it out with Wolves for rock bottom, a Wolves team who caved us in if you rememberin the cup.

Give him a transfer window, let's hope at least 3 bodies come in, and get behind him. None of this is his fault for fuck sake, he's making the best of a fucking catastrophe of a squad he's been given.

Seconded. He’s got one arm tied behind his back with what’s available to him. TBH deserves a medal for making Todibo look like a football player. 

We paid £35 million for him Man U and Juventus wanted him, I think it was more a case of joining a team in a new league for two shit shows of aanagee... Besides knew he must be good when COYI called it that he was a shit player. 

[El Scorchio]

Better than what? I can't help it if people are saying it. I was cringing watching him run about against Leeds. People are going on as if Nuno has viable options he's ignoring, it's pathetic. 

I'm no great fan of the style of football, and I do wish we would go for games a bit more, but I'm also aware that the manager has been at the club for 10 games, he's got 1 striker that can contribute who happens to be 33, 2 wingers, 1 of who is the only player in the squad with real pace but is injury prone, and 3 centre backs who before he turned up, didn't look like they were good enough to play for Canning Town vets.

He is working with the most poorly put together squad in the league, who were not only losing under Potter, but getting absolutely slapped at times, and were on course to battle it out with Wolves for rock bottom, a Wolves team who caved us in if you rememberin the cup.

Give him a transfer window, let's hope at least 3 bodies come in, and get behind him. None of this is his fault for fuck sake, he's making the best of a fucking catastrophe of a squad he's been given.

Seconded. He’s got one arm tied behind his back with what’s available to him. TBH deserves a medal for making Todibo look like a football player. 

[Eerie Decent]

Better than what? I can't help it if people are saying it. I was cringing watching him run about against Leeds. People are going on as if Nuno has viable options he's ignoring, it's pathetic. 

I'm no great fan of the style of football, and I do wish we would go for games a bit more, but I'm also aware that the manager has been at the club for 10 games, he's got 1 striker that can contribute who happens to be 33, 2 wingers, 1 of who is the only player in the squad with real pace but is injury prone, and 3 centre backs who before he turned up, didn't look like they were good enough to play for Canning Town vets.

He is working with the most poorly put together squad in the league, who were not only losing under Potter, but getting absolutely slapped at times, and were on course to battle it out with Wolves for rock bottom, a Wolves team who caved us in if you rememberin the cup.

Give him a transfer window, let's hope at least 3 bodies come in, and get behind him. None of this is his fault for fuck sake, he's making the best of a fucking catastrophe of a squad he's been given.

[El Scorchio]

Mav shouldn’t have had to go down. The officials should be protecting players regardless. 

How that handball wasn’t given is baffling. Especially as said because there was a save between that and the actual goal. That’s not a new phase of play. It’s the same bit of play. It was seconds of the ball bouncing around the six yard box directly as a result of the handball so it’s had a profound effect on the goal being scored. If you’re doing fouls and offsides in the ‘build up’ to a goal then handballs too. This stuff is far to open to interpretation. 

[Rossal]

When people criticise him for not playing Marshall, you know he's got no chance.

Someone wanted him to play Marshall yesterday?

Look on the Nuno thread.

You're usually better than that. 

[Eerie Decent]

When people criticise him for not playing Marshall, you know he's got no chance.

Someone wanted him to play Marshall yesterday?

Look on the Nuno thread.

[THUNDERCLINT]

It's also another game where we've dropped points by sitting in and defending deep. We are not good enough to do it, just keep playing.  The best way for us to defend is to keep attacking. 



 

 

 

Surely the best way to defend is to keep the ball as far away from your goal as possible,?

[Takashi Miike]

I aree, he's much better in that wing forward role, cutting in and shooting

[THUNDERCLINT]

When people criticise him for not playing Marshall, you know he's got no chance.

 

 

He's not a Premier League CF and is likely too to ever be one but I think there's a case to be made for him having been given some time at LWF in Jimmy's absence.

[Rossal]

When people criticise him for not playing Marshall, you know he's got no chance.

Someone wanted him to play Marshall yesterday?

[Eerie Decent]

When people criticise him for not playing Marshall, you know he's got no chance.

[THUNDERCLINT]

I if a scouse, both Mancs, Chelsea, Spurs or Arsenal player was involved a foul woud have been given. Mav should have gone down! 

He didn't need to dive. Could he not have got his head right in the mixer and taken one for the team? 

[Rossal]

We should have won the game, the decision to let their goal stand is a shocking one. How can a team be punished for their GK making a save? 

Thought the midfield was good again, Todibo good again. Summerville makes a huge difference to us, is our main ball carrier and stretches defences as theres two flanks now for them to worry about. 

It a good point but we need wins, and its another game that was there to be won and we haven't. 

It's also another game where we've dropped points by sitting in and defending deep. We are not good enough to do it, just keep playing.  The best way for us to defend is to keep attacking. 

 

[Come On You Irons]

I if a scouse, both Mancs, Chelsea, Spurs or Arsenal player was involved a foul woud have been given. Mav should have gone down! 

Be careful now. We don't want people calling you a bell end and claiming you're not West Ham for suggesting that!

[Lato]

I if a scouse, both Mancs, Chelsea, Spurs or Arsenal player was involved a foul woud have been given. Mav should have gone down! 

[Rossal]

I think the thing is the onus is on the player performing the action to ensure that they're aren't creating a dangerous situation.

Once he contacts the head, deliberate or not, it's a foul. Mavro is entitled to go for a ball at head height with his head, and entitled not to get kicked in the face when doing so.

Well Mavrapanos was simply stupid not to go down. That and his glaring miss at the end cost us the three points.

He really is a liability.

Never thought I'd read that from a West Ham fan. Arsenal, Spurs yes but not West Ham.

You still haven't read it from a West Ham fan...

[Takashi Miike]

[Django]

Putting the handball part of it to one side, I've got no issue with the overhead kick. Looking at it again (felt it at the time in real time) the Brighton player only had eyes for the ball and has no idea where a West Ham player is (wasn't like he was already grappling with someone), let alone Mavropanos all alone until Mavropanos comes to challenge for the ball. As the ball comes closer he begins his action and it executes it by getting the ball. What happens during that time Mavropanos tries to get to the ball first but just misses out before nutting his calf. Brave of Mavropanos but I don't see a foul made by the Brighton player. Otherwise are we now saying players cannot attempt and achieve to perform an overhead kick in the Box anymore.. Haller and Carroll spring immediately to mind.

I think the thing is the onus is on the player performing the action to ensure that they're aren't creating a dangerous situation.

Once he contacts the head, deliberate or not, it's a foul. Mavro is entitled to go for a ball at head height with his head, and entitled not to get kicked in the face when doing so.

Well Mavrapanos was simply stupid not to go down. That and his glaring miss at the end cost us the three points.

He really is a liability.

Oh do fuck off you absolute bell end. The shit you come out with is embarrassing mate.

[Tomshardware]

Putting the handball part of it to one side, I've got no issue with the overhead kick. Looking at it again (felt it at the time in real time) the Brighton player only had eyes for the ball and has no idea where a West Ham player is (wasn't like he was already grappling with someone), let alone Mavropanos all alone until Mavropanos comes to challenge for the ball. As the ball comes closer he begins his action and it executes it by getting the ball. What happens during that time Mavropanos tries to get to the ball first but just misses out before nutting his calf. Brave of Mavropanos but I don't see a foul made by the Brighton player. Otherwise are we now saying players cannot attempt and achieve to perform an overhead kick in the Box anymore.. Haller and Carroll spring immediately to mind.

I think the thing is the onus is on the player performing the action to ensure that they're aren't creating a dangerous situation.

Once he contacts the head, deliberate or not, it's a foul. Mavro is entitled to go for a ball at head height with his head, and entitled not to get kicked in the face when doing so.

Well Mavrapanos was simply stupid not to go down. That and his glaring miss at the end cost us the three points.

He really is a liability.

Never thought I'd read that from a West Ham fan. Arsenal, Spurs yes but not West Ham.

[Massive Attack]

I get it about taking the opportunity to go down feigning an injury but what a sad state of affairs we'd wish our own players to cheat. It's not something I personally want to see us resort to and rather we beat Teams fair and square. 

[Come On You Irons]

Putting the handball part of it to one side, I've got no issue with the overhead kick. Looking at it again (felt it at the time in real time) the Brighton player only had eyes for the ball and has no idea where a West Ham player is (wasn't like he was already grappling with someone), let alone Mavropanos all alone until Mavropanos comes to challenge for the ball. As the ball comes closer he begins his action and it executes it by getting the ball. What happens during that time Mavropanos tries to get to the ball first but just misses out before nutting his calf. Brave of Mavropanos but I don't see a foul made by the Brighton player. Otherwise are we now saying players cannot attempt and achieve to perform an overhead kick in the Box anymore.. Haller and Carroll spring immediately to mind.

I think the thing is the onus is on the player performing the action to ensure that they're aren't creating a dangerous situation.

Once he contacts the head, deliberate or not, it's a foul. Mavro is entitled to go for a ball at head height with his head, and entitled not to get kicked in the face when doing so.

Well Mavrapanos was simply stupid not to go down. That and his glaring miss at the end cost us the three points.

He really is a liability.

[threesixty]

The silly thing with this phase crap is that the ref would have never blown the whistle to end a half of football after the 1st shot. The whole thing is one phase!
I dont see how you can separate the events of the first shot from the second shot. They are directly related. It's such a bizarre decision and I bet they dont give that type of goal again for the rest of the season. They know it was wrong.
 

[Massive Attack]

I think both were entitled to go for the same ball to be fair to them and if anything I thought it was textbook play and honesty from both to not make it in to something it wasn't. Mavropanos doesn't get hurt or pretend to be like many others would. When Hinchelwood plays the ball there's no one near Kostoulas all alone until his foot is just about to make contact with the ball, but at that point he can't just evaporate, not that Mavropanos was injured which shows how well the action was performed.

[DukeofDevo]

I’m starting to wonder if Mavro has his head screwed on backwards. It’s unbelievable the amount of times he gets his head on the ball from a corner and the ball goes anywhere but in the back of the goal. He must lead the league in missed chances from headers inside the box.



 

He wasn’t happy with himself for missing the target; but He’d be better positioning himself at the near post so when the ball skids off his head it’ll go diagonally towards the goal!  MAV stay away from the back post!