The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[One Sunny Day]

Fuck me, there's some sad cunts on here, the last couple of days. Image spending Christmas ranting a load of false bollocks on the internet while raging against people who dont really affect you.
I had a lovely dinner with my family.

[THUNDERCLINT]

 

lets hope all the radical hate clerics don't find out that loophole.

It's also quite ridiculous how you liberal morons alway try to associate a housewife (?)  shitposting on twitter in the aftermath of 3 children being murdered to a radical hate cleric.

house wife, or hate cleric is completely irrelevant, and since you're all about following the law to the letter of course you know that don't you. I used the example because I knew you'd be a hypocrite about it. PS I'm not liberal, I'm just not a fucking cheerleader and a hypocrite when "my side" is in the wrong for once

Actually it's not irrelevant and would form a large part of the prosecution. The hate preacher would like have a large body of work to draw from when attempting to prove his intent and therefore make reasonable doubt a much higher threshold to achieve.

And you used it as an example because the intent is to use the example to demonize Connolly. It's very basic NLP, mention the words radical, hate etc in an attempt to subconsciously link them to her.

And if you're not a liberal then you must be a commie shitcunt.

[Hammer I am]

 

Whether I have a problem with it is irrelevant. What's relevant, for the purpose of a criminal conviction, is the what is actually meant by the statement and the author's intentions.

 "For all I care" is a very important part of the statement because it completely charges the the intent of everything that comes before and after.

This is primary school level language comprehension, so I see why you're struggling.

 

lets hope all the radical hate clerics don't find out that loophole.

It's also quite ridiculous how you liberal morons alway try to associate a housewife (?)  shitposting on twitter in the aftermath of 3 children being murdered to a radical hate cleric.

house wife, or hate cleric is completely irrelevant, and since you're all about following the law to the letter of course you know that don't you. I used the example because I knew you'd be a hypocrite about it. PS I'm not liberal, I'm just not a fucking cheerleader and a hypocrite when "my side" is in the wrong for once

[THUNDERCLINT]

 

the "for all I care" is a statement that she doesn't think that's going too far, not that she doesnt care either way, you're really are trying too hard not to understand this

OK then, so if a musliim said

set fire to all the fucking primary schools full of western kids for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them"

you wouldn't have a problem with it no?, 

 

Whether I have a problem with it is irrelevant. What's relevant, for the purpose of a criminal conviction, is the what is actually meant by the statement and the author's intentions.

 "For all I care" is a very important part of the statement because it completely charges the the intent of everything that comes before and after.

This is primary school level language comprehension, so I see why you're struggling.

 

lets hope all the radical hate clerics don't find out that loophole.

It's also quite ridiculous how you liberal morons alway try to associate a housewife (?)  shitposting on twitter in the aftermath of 3 children being murdered to a radical hate cleric.

[THUNDERCLINT]

 

the "for all I care" is a statement that she doesn't think that's going too far, not that she doesnt care either way, you're really are trying too hard not to understand this

OK then, so if a musliim said

set fire to all the fucking primary schools full of western kids for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them"

you wouldn't have a problem with it no?, 

 

Whether I have a problem with it is irrelevant. What's relevant, for the purpose of a criminal conviction, is the what is actually meant by the statement and the author's intentions.

 "For all I care" is a very important part of the statement because it completely charges the the intent of everything that comes before and after.

This is primary school level language comprehension, so I see why you're struggling.

 

right right, adding "for all I care" at the end of an inflammatory sentence means you're not angry at all, lets hope all the radical hate clerics don't find out that loophole.

"for all I care" is very much used at the end of a statement declaring an outcome you would actually like to see, and if we're playing this game where you pretend to be My Thickie, she said it after the burning hotels things, but notably before the "and take all the politicians with you" so in your interpretation she cares for that part to happen at least then

It doesn't matter if she was angry, it doesn't matter if she'd have enjoyed watching it.

What matters is did she intend to encourage or incite people to do it beyond a reasonable doubt.

The very fact the meaning of the post can be argued creates a reasonable doubt.

As I said, leave it to the grown ups.

[Hammer I am]

"for all I care" that right there disqualifies the statement as a encouragement. She's not telling people to do it, she's statement how she'd feel if it happened. 

Lack of empathy is not a crime.

The only part of the statement that qualifies as an expression of a desired outcome is "mass deportations now".

 

the "for all I care" is a statement that she doesn't think that's going too far, not that she doesnt care either way, you're really are trying too hard not to understand this

OK then, so if a musliim said

set fire to all the fucking primary schools full of western kids for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them"

you wouldn't have a problem with it no?, 

 

Whether I have a problem with it is irrelevant. What's relevant, for the purpose of a criminal conviction, is the what is actually meant by the statement and the author's intentions.

 "For all I care" is a very important part of the statement because it completely charges the the intent of everything that comes before and after.

This is primary school level language comprehension, so I see why you're struggling.

 

 

right right, adding "for all I care" at the end of an inflammatory sentence means you're not angry at all, lets hope all the radical hate clerics don't find out that loophole.

"for all I care" is very much used at the end of a statement declaring an outcome you would actually like to see, and if we're playing this game where you pretend to be My Thickie, she said it after the burning hotels things, but notably before the "and take all the politicians with you" so in your interpretation she cares for that part to happen at least then

[THUNDERCLINT]

 

 

I think you're being deliberately obtuse:

“Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them" is not in the same ballpark as "go to hell", especially as people were quite willing to take the first statement at face value 

"for all I care" that right there disqualifies the statement as a encouragement. She's not telling people to do it, she's statement how she'd feel if it happened. 

Lack of empathy is not a crime.

The only part of the statement that qualifies as an expression of a desired outcome is "mass deportations now".

 

the "for all I care" is a statement that she doesn't think that's going too far.

You've just created reasonable doubt. You're saying she's expressing an opinion about it not an instruction to do it.

I told you a someone with the IQ of a sponge could defend her.

[THUNDERCLINT]

well she pleaded guilty for a start

Out of fear of a longer sentence and mostly likely tainted legal advice.

That cant be true, you said someone a brief with an IQ of a sponge would have got her off.

Well it can be true because I suggested her brief was at best, politically motivated, at worst, bent, not stupid.

You should really leave this to the grown ups.

[THUNDERCLINT]

 

 

I think you're being deliberately obtuse:

“Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them" is not in the same ballpark as "go to hell", especially as people were quite willing to take the first statement at face value 

"for all I care" that right there disqualifies the statement as a encouragement. She's not telling people to do it, she's statement how she'd feel if it happened. 

Lack of empathy is not a crime.

The only part of the statement that qualifies as an expression of a desired outcome is "mass deportations now".

 

the "for all I care" is a statement that she doesn't think that's going too far, not that she doesnt care either way, you're really are trying too hard not to understand this

OK then, so if a musliim said

set fire to all the fucking primary schools full of western kids for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them"

you wouldn't have a problem with it no?, 

 

 

Whether I have a problem with it is irrelevant. What's relevant, for the purpose of a criminal conviction, is the what is actually meant by the statement and the author's intentions.

 "For all I care" is a very important part of the statement because it completely changes the the intent of everything that comes before and after.

This is primary school level language comprehension, so I see why you're struggling.

[Hammer I am]

Who do you know personally that was incited to act on that comment? Yourself? Those nearest & dearest to you who share a common mindset? Your postman? The bloke stacking shelves at your local supermarket? The homeless in your area? Those among your acquaintances who care about their country?

well she pleaded guilty for a start

Out of fear of a longer sentence and mostly likely tainted legal advice.

That cant be true, you said someone a brief with an IQ of a sponge would have got her off.

You didn't answer my question, if an iman at a mosque say used exactly the same words, but just substituted the word hotel for schools, you wouldn't see that as some sort of incitement?

[THUNDERCLINT]

I gave far cough the benefit of the doubt he was being deliberately thick, with you I'm not so sure

Who do you know personally that was incited to act on that comment? Yourself? Those nearest & dearest to you who share a common mindset? Your postman? The bloke stacking shelves at your local supermarket? The homeless in your area? Those among your acquaintances who care about their country?

well she pleaded guilty for a start

Out of fear of a longer sentence and mostly likely tainted legal advice.

[Hammer I am]

" Eat shit and die" now carries a charge of administering a noxious substance and attempted murder.

I gave far cough the benefit of the doubt he was being deliberately thick, with you I'm not so sure

Who do you know personally that was incited to act on that comment? Yourself? Those nearest & dearest to you who share a common mindset? Your postman? The bloke stacking shelves at your local supermarket? The homeless in your area? Those among your acquaintances who care about their country?

well she pleaded guilty for a start

[Hammer I am]

So if I say "go to hell" will I get charged for inciting eternal damnation?

 

 

I think you're being deliberately obtuse:

“Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them" is not in the same ballpark as "go to hell", especially as people were quite willing to take the first statement at face value 

"for all I care" that right there disqualifies the statement as a encouragement. She's not telling people to do it, she's statement how she'd feel if it happened. 

Lack of empathy is not a crime.

The only part of the statement that qualifies as an expression of a desired outcome is "mass deportations now".

 

 

the "for all I care" is a statement that she doesn't think that's going too far, not that she doesnt care either way, you're really are trying too hard not to understand this

OK then, so if a musliim said

set fire to all the fucking primary schools full of western kids for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them"

you wouldn't have a problem with it no?, 

[Mike Oxsaw]

So if I say "go to hell" will I get charged for inciting eternal damnation?

" Eat shit and die" now carries a charge of administering a noxious substance and attempted murder.

I gave far cough the benefit of the doubt he was being deliberately thick, with you I'm not so sure

Who do you know personally that was incited to act on that comment? Yourself? Those nearest & dearest to you who share a common mindset? Your postman? The bloke stacking shelves at your local supermarket? The homeless in your area? Those among your acquaintances who care about their country?

[THUNDERCLINT]

So if I say "go to hell" will I get charged for inciting eternal damnation?

" Eat shit and die" now carries a charge of administering a noxious substance and attempted murder.

I gave far cough the benefit of the doubt he was being deliberately thick, with you I'm not so sure

And yet I'm sure about you.

[THUNDERCLINT]

So if I say "go to hell" will I get charged for inciting eternal damnation?

 

 

I think you're being deliberately obtuse:

“Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them" is not in the same ballpark as "go to hell", especially as people were quite willing to take the first statement at face value 

"for all I care" that right there disqualifies the statement as a encouragement. She's not telling people to do it, she's statement how she'd feel if it happened. 

Lack of empathy is not a crime.

The only part of the statement that qualifies as an expression of a desired outcome is "mass deportations now".

[Hammer I am]

So if I say "go to hell" will I get charged for inciting eternal damnation?

" Eat shit and die" now carries a charge of administering a noxious substance and attempted murder.

I gave far cough the benefit of the doubt he was being deliberately thick, with you I'm not so sure

[Hammer I am]

So if I say "go to hell" will I get charged for inciting eternal damnation?

 

 

 

 

I think you're being deliberately obtuse:

“Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them" is not in the same ballpark as "go to hell", especially as people were quite willing to take the first statement at face value 

[THUNDERCLINT]

So if I say "go to hell" will I get charged for inciting eternal damnation?

" Eat shit and die" now carries a charge of administering a noxious substance and attempted murder.

[Far Cough UKunt]

So if I say "go to hell" will I get charged for inciting eternal damnation?

[THUNDERCLINT]

We all know things have gone too far with police getting involved with social media but if that isn't inicitement of violence I don't know what is, care to explain why it isn't Surface?

Essentially it comes down to intent. Did she intend to encourage or provoke others into committing violent acts.

A brief with the IQ of a sponge could create enough reasonable doubt in less than a quater of an hour to get most of these cases tossed, and why Kweer wants rid of juries.

She was overcharged from the beginning it was never more than a caution.

[Hammer I am]

We all know things have gone too far with police getting involved with social media but if that isn't inicitement of violence I don't know what is, care to explain why it isn't Surface?

[Fauxstralian]

‘Set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards’

Nothing to see there 

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

I understood you thought Tory woman inciting mass murder should have received no penalty

Factually untrue, you pathetic, limp-wristed, Muslim-loving, anti-Semitic cսnt.

Lucy Connolly NEVER incited anything.

[goose]

That was easy

Nothings easy in your life joyo son, comes from being poor & thick.