West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread

[muskie]

Odds slashed from 5/1 to 7/2.

Watch this space.

I think we're fucked.

[Sir Alf]

Ive no idea its true but just feel Sullivan will find a way to protect himself from losses in his shareholder value. 

[Sir Alf]

I heard we are posting s 100 million loss in Jan?

[goose]

That makes zero sense sorry.
pay off £100m hole in the accounts? to who exactly?
what "shareholder gains" (not sure what that even means) is he getting back?

step #1 you need to understand the separation of Sullivan and the "the club".

[Sir Alf]

Very true Goose but you get the drift. Sullivans priority is gettimg his shareholder gains back afyer they take a hit with relegation.  My point is he will still have no plan for the football club and will pay off the 100 million hole in the accounts first,  finance everything for players through loans after selling Bowen, Paqueta, Magassa, Fernandes, AwB, Diouf, etc for £150 million plus

[goose]

Let it go lads. We aint catching anyone. We’re gone already. It will take a long while for Nuno and then Sullivan to accept but the sooner the planning starts gor the championship the better. Oh no thats more than a few months away, far too long term. Build a team around Magassa, Fernandes, Potts, Earthy, and a couple of other U21s if possible.  But we wont, Sullivsn will sell anything and rverythimg he can. His shareholding vslue may be halved perhaps equating to over 100 million. Other shareholders like  Kretinski and Golds also see their share values in the toilet. The millions from player sales transferred via accountants into the personal wealth of the owners before we then start borrowing from owners with interest to start the next transfer window. Agents, old, slow players or loans and same old process.  Years in championship and even league 1 beckon

Alf you don’t understand accounting son.

[Sir Alf]

Let it go lads. We aint catching anyone. We’re gone already. It will take a long while for Nuno and then Sullivan to accept but the sooner the planning starts gor the championship the better. Oh no thats more than a few months away, far too long term. Build a team around Magassa, Fernandes, Potts, Earthy, and a couple of other U21s if possible.  But we wont, Sullivsn will sell anything and rverythimg he can. His shareholding vslue may be halved perhaps equating to over 100 million. Other shareholders like  Kretinski and Golds also see their share values in the toilet. The millions from player sales transferred via accountants into the personal wealth of the owners before we then start borrowing from owners with interest to start the next transfer window. Agents, old, slow players or loans and same old process.  Years in championship and even league 1 beckon

[onsideman]

Leeds equalise with a stunning goal

 

[Tomshardware]

Yesterday could have gone either way.  We didn't take our chances, they punished our mistake.   I honestly think the Brighton game will be the turning point in our season.  

What's that based on?  Sounds like management talk.

It's based on the poster being a bit simple
He/she/they previously proclaimed we would win yesterday and start our climb up the table

Agreed but also sounds a bit like something ferret would post.

[Sweep]

Sunderland beating Leeds.

[onsideman]

Yesterday could have gone either way.  We didn't take our chances, they punished our mistake.   I honestly think the Brighton game will be the turning point in our season.  

What's that based on?  Sounds like management talk.

It's based on the poster being a bit simple
He/she/they previously proclaimed we would win yesterday and start our climb up the table

[Tomshardware]

Yesterday could have gone either way.  We didn't take our chances, they punished our mistake.   I honestly think the Brighton game will be the turning point in our season.  

What's that based on?  Sounds like management talk.

[onsideman]

Hope to be proved wrong, but having just seen that Sunderland are without 6 afcon players plus Dan Ballard at home against Leeds today I think we'll probably be looking at a 9 point gap to them by close of play

[muskie]

End this thread . We won't be anywhere near the relegation places . The squad age is coming down and we'll massively improve because of it . 

 

 

Pshyco must have lost his meds the day he wrote this.

[David LE]

As said before    Sacking Potter wasn’t the answer to the question of a dysfunctional squad and a Board with little ambition beyond mid table 

Mid table? 17th you mean.

[cup of tea]

I have tickets for the QPR game, originally thought it was Saturday but now its Sunday and travel is fucked I am knocking it on the head and just taking the hit on money I have paid for the tickets.

The thought of sitting in that cesspit with zero atmosphere whilst 9000 QPR fans take the piss isn't my idea of a good use of time

[Far Cough UKunt]

I'm thinking of knocking the Brighton game on the head, i'm so fucking depressed about the whole thing.

I've never missed a home game since we moved to the shithole.

Run by cunts.

Fuck off!

[cup of tea]

QPR are half decent this season. Who would have thought I would be jealous of QPR with a FOOTBALL stadium.

QPR will turn up at the cesspit backed by 9000 fans taking the absolute piss and probably beat us then it really will be season over.

NEXT LEVEL

[Beef&Tomato]

Yesterday could have gone either way.  We didn't take our chances, they punished our mistake.   I honestly think the Brighton game will be the turning point in our season.  

[northbankboy68]

In my opinion, if we get relegated what saves us at that point is our Academy setup. 

The highest profile players in that team as well as the team.collectively when playing in the Cup have shown themselves able to compete below Premier League level.

Casey, Potts, Earthy, Scarles...all clearly capable of playing good level Championship football.

Orford, Kante, Fearon, Herrick, Marshall, Myers...hugely well thought of and you'd expect to adjust seamlessly.

Then there are others....Cummings, Ajala, Golambeckis....that you would expect to come through and would be getting loans next season at that level .

Plus even if we wanted to we won't be able to shift every senior squad members so augment them with a few like KWP, JWP, maybe Guilherme, maybe someone on smaller wages like a Magassa...

...and we have a squad already that won't see us plummet to league one, and that is pretty much ready to go.

IMO we'd compete at the top end of the Championship...the challenge is staying up if you get up...Sunderland look like making a good fist of it but almost none of their squad played Championship football last season. It's a vastly inferior league and a team that smashes the Championship is rarely well enough equipped to survive the Premier League.

So you Yo-Yo a couple seasons....and it's the second relegation that I'd be fearful for.

We will find out on 11th Jan how we are likely to fare in the Championship and how good our academy is!  QPR are having a reasonable season.  If we are going to bounce straight up we should beat them comfortably.  We'll see!

[GBHammer63]

It’s amazing that people are failing to take into account the owners will make the same crap decisions in whatever league they find themselves, we’ll be the next Birmingham and being absolutely candid the club deserve it for the way we’ve been run, the fans don’t deserve it but just by being associated with the West Ham brand will be tarred with the same brush. 
If you go to bed with an itchy arse don’t be shocked if you wake up with a smelly finger.

[ragingbull]

I actually think we will come straight back up. We already have a championship team plus the parachute money and promising youngsters it will happen the trick is staying up.

[ragingbull]

Although I'm an Atheist I've made my peace with god, champoinship here we come.

[Mad Dog]

In the past going down I've felt confident of coming up, this time I have no faith whatsoever

Teams will target us in the half empty stadium, and I've more belief we'll struggle or even drop down again.

IF by some miracle we bounce back, the money the prem teams get, we'll be so far behind cash wise we'll struggle when we get back.  Most promoted teams struggle and often fall again.

Seriously how are so far behind teams like bournmouth, Fulham, Brighton, brentford and fucking palace... oh sullivan, thats why

They had BETTER drop season ticket prices next year

[boleyn8420]

First we are going down as we would need to win 50% of the remaining matches. Second  all this tripe about 'getting' West Ham is complete bullshit, to professional footballers it's a job, nothing more nothing less for which they are paid handsomely so they don't give a fuck who is paying them, it's a fallacy to say some players 'understood' what playing for West Ham is all about. Oh, really, how about playing for half your salary then.
Thirdly, why is the no mark manager still employed, he is trying his best to get sacked, so do it. No striker starting at home  ffs.

[stubbo-admin]

In my opinion, if we get relegated what saves us at that point is our Academy setup. 

The highest profile players in that team as well as the team.collectively when playing in the Cup have shown themselves able to compete below Premier League level.

Casey, Potts, Earthy, Scarles...all clearly capable of playing good level Championship football.

Orford, Kante, Fearon, Herrick, Marshall, Myers...hugely well thought of and you'd expect to adjust seamlessly.

Then there are others....Cummings, Ajala, Golambeckis....that you would expect to come through and would be getting loans next season at that level .

Plus even if we wanted to we won't be able to shift every senior squad members so augment them with a few like KWP, JWP, maybe Guilherme, maybe someone on smaller wages like a Magassa...

...and we have a squad already that won't see us plummet to league one, and that is pretty much ready to go.

IMO we'd compete at the top end of the Championship...the challenge is staying up if you get up...Sunderland look like making a good fist of it but almost none of their squad played Championship football last season. It's a vastly inferior league and a team that smashes the Championship is rarely well enough equipped to survive the Premier League.

So you Yo-Yo a couple seasons....and it's the second relegation that I'd be fearful for.

To be fair, in the Premier Laegue era, we've hardly been a yo yo club when promoted. We've survived 8, 5 and 13 seasons before relegation the following seasons (we are going down this season).

I agree. But if you look at recent history, there's an increasing prevalence of the teams that come up going straight back down unless they do heavy and smart recruitment in the season they come up. 

The teams that go with the core of who they were promoted with go straight back down. 

IMO the landscape has changed and the disparity between the two leagues has grown since the last time we were in the league below.