West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread

[muskie]

Odds slashed from 5/1 to 7/2.

Watch this space.

I think we're fucked.

[Westside]

Honestly, I’m hoping Leeds win against MU today, love the way they press and play. They deserve to escape the drop zone, on Tuesday we will see our latest attempt at shooting ourselves in the foot, against an arguably more defensive manager than we’ve got albeit with a fucking ton more passion. Fed up of pretty much everything to do with this club, and that’s after over 50 years of supporting them. Sullivan and Brady have spent since 93 perfecting their grift and unfortunately for us it’s the only thing the failures are good at. 

 

 

We will obviously lose on Tuesday, but Dysche isn't that great a manager. Forest will stay up due to our ineptitude, rather than Dysche's skill. It was only last January he was sacked by Everon, 1 point above the relegation zone, after 3 wins in 19 matches. Moyes, with conspicous ease, took  those same players to safety and with some summer 2025 additions has maintained them in mid table.

[fraser]

I can't be bothered to get annoyed about it, I was yesterday during the game and a short while after, probably will be Tuesday again. You should all put it away till then, better for your mental health. 

[onsideman]

Yesterday was depressing and confidence shattering, but it didn't really change our league relegation position much.
We remain 4 points behind Forest and 2 points ahead of Burnley. We are 6 points ahead of Wolves.

That's a patently ridiculous comment
Had we won we'd be 1 point behind Forest. How is that not a positive change? Absurd

[GBHammer63]

Honestly, I’m hoping Leeds win against MU today, love the way they press and play. They deserve to escape the drop zone, on Tuesday we will see our latest attempt at shooting ourselves in the foot, against an arguably more defensive manager than we’ve got albeit with a fucking ton more passion. Fed up of pretty much everything to do with this club, and that’s after over 50 years of supporting them. Sullivan and Brady have spent since 93 perfecting their grift and unfortunately for us it’s the only thing the failures are good at. 

[Massive Attack]

Yesterday was depressing and confidence shattering, but it didn't really change our league relegation position much.
We remain 4 points behind Forest and 2 points ahead of Burnley. We are 6 points ahead of Wolves.

If we think about it, had Burnley beaten Brighton yesterday in a winnable game for them, they could have gone above us. we are still relying on others around us to fuck up their results and that only lasts so long.

[gpike]

Yesterday was depressing and confidence shattering, but it didn't really change our league relegation position much.
We remain 4 points behind Forest and 2 points ahead of Burnley. We are 6 points ahead of Wolves.

I tend to agree. As long as we don't lose to Forest we're still in with a sniff. Of course, a win is really needed ASAP

I saw the Villa Forest game and Dyche low block bollocks was at play however, they have a better team than us work harder especially at the back and will go for the throat against us ... We will most likely lose

[stubbo-admin]

Yesterday was depressing and confidence shattering, but it didn't really change our league relegation position much.
We remain 4 points behind Forest and 2 points ahead of Burnley. We are 6 points ahead of Wolves.

I tend to agree. As long as we don't lose to Forest we're still in with a sniff. Of course, a win is really needed ASAP

[Come On You Irons]

Yesterday was depressing and confidence shattering, but it didn't really change our league relegation position much.
We remain 4 points behind Forest and 2 points ahead of Burnley. We are 6 points ahead of Wolves.

We are effectively 5 points behind Forest with our woeful goal difference which took another pounding yesterday.

Fail to beat Forest on Tuesday and we can forget about staying up.

[Mex Martillo]

Yesterday was depressing and confidence shattering, but it didn't really change our league relegation position much.
We remain 4 points behind Forest and 2 points ahead of Burnley. We are 6 points ahead of Wolves.

[kinglewy]

Nuno should take a couple of the suoporters who travelled up to Wolves into the changing room before the Forest game. They can tell the bunch of overpaid, don’t care useless tossers what they really think of them.

[Sir Alf]

Bless you all. Its over, let it go fir ur mental healths sake.

We will imo almost certainly lose to Forest based on watching their game with Villa yesterday. They have pace with the likes of Gibbs White in midfield Hudson Odoi out wide etc and were very very hard to break down with10 behind the ball. It took a great Watkins shot from distance and then Forest had to come out and play.    We cannot break anyone down who sits deep and are highly vulnerable to pace. Forest had a lad leading the line who caused Konsa and Villa defence problems in the air and deck.

No way they dont score with Kilman playing. Hes completely fallen apart.  Our midfield is relying on Fernandes, Potts and Magassa being very good every game just to compete and yesterday they left big holes by not being quick enough to get across and track or just not aware. Against teams that break fast in numbers as Wolves did we are goimg to concede chances and goals.

Nuno is another “paint by numbers” manager who uses a limited number of formations and tactics based on defence first. At home he will use a back 4 which with our CBs is highly vulnerable and 4 in midfield which usually competes ok and Paqueta might help but only if played on the left. Hes a liability centrally. 

Only very small hope is that the new signings miraculously instantly click and have nonissue with the increase in pace and intensity of the PL.  Highly unlikely. 

Miracle would be a new CB and. pacy/strong centre mid before Forest, Todibo back, and aforementioned players already signed also hitting the ground running.  

Far too many issues and we are 2nd or 3rd worse team at home.  

Like I say, admire those that still hope but prefer realism. We are going down


 

[El Scorchio]

We're not quite done yet.
Lose to Forest and we definitely are.
We are rapidly catching up Wolves in negative goal difference.
The only hope is if Forest completely fall to bits for the rest of the season, I cannot see any of the other teams being remotely in touch.

The only saving graces at the moment are everyone else down there is losing as often as us - Wolves are the only team in the bottom 4 showing any upward trend in performance and now results - we have four starters to come back in, and the transfer window is open. 

Yesterday's team is definitely going down.  Upgrade a few of them with returners and signings and then hope we're four points better than Forest from the last 17/18 games.

 

 

I agree. It’s barmy we are not cut adrift properly yet. We keep getting lifelines, as bad as we are. Even after all this all it takes is a win on Tuesday and we are back with something tangible to chase. As they say it’s the hope that kills you. Unless Todibo is back I see no way we don’t ship at least 2-3 goals. Our defence isn’t even championship standard. It’s THAT bad what Moyes, Lop and Potter and SULLIVAN assembled. I cannot believe how bad Max Kilman is as a defender, just absolute shit. I couldn’t see a pub side buying him off us at the moment. The bloke is dreadful. 40 million quid…. We’ve signed some absolute shit over the years but he is the very worst of the worst. 

[stubbo-admin]

As was stated in the match thread by Mex, we have three remaining targets for the season:

- Get 5 pts more than Forest over the next 18 games
- Get 1 pt LESS than Burnley
- Get 7 pts LESS than Wolves.

Those are the only targets now.  Shows just how important the game against Forest is on Tuesday.  Win that, and it's outperform them by 2 pts over 17 games. Lose that, and it's 8 pts over 17 games.

Huge huge game. Everyone pretty much still has to play everyone. So it's a pretty level playing field if somehow we shithouse a win against Forest on Tuesday. 

[Sweep]

We're not quite done yet.
Lose to Forest and we definitely are.
We are rapidly catching up Wolves in negative goal difference.
The only hope is if Forest completely fall to bits for the rest of the season, I cannot see any of the other teams being remotely in touch.

The only saving graces at the moment are everyone else down there is losing as often as us - Wolves are the only team in the bottom 4 showing any upward trend in performance and now results - we have four starters to come back in, and the transfer window is open. 

Yesterday's team is definitely going down.  Upgrade a few of them with returners and signings and then hope we're four points better than Forest from the last 17/18 games.

[Sarge]

Latest odds
wolves 1/200
Burnley 1/33
West ham 1/3

Forest 4/1
Leeds 8/1

Bournemouth 25/1
Man City 25/1

Ignoring the overound, 75% chance we go down.
4% chance we get saved by a man city points deduction. 



 

[Far Cough UKunt]

No fucking leaders

No fucking fighters

Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles would be better in defence than Mavro and Kilman and Ray Charles is dead.

FUCK OFF!

[southbankbornnbred]

We’re down. It’s just a case of what the fuck we do about that in May.

Nothing about this club will change until Sullivan goes.  Somehow, relegation needs to be the catalyst for his exit.

[Fauxstralian]

I have not seen a single team that I would have any confidence in us beating 
We’ve just lost 3-0 to the last team you thought we MIGHT beat
Every chance we will do a Wolves and not win in half a season
Done? Obviously 
And we will continue to sink until Sullivan & Brady go

[ragingbull]

The Titanic has got a better chance to get out of this.

[Takashi Miike]

an owner that loves shit negative managers, another manager that hates forwards, and a team/squad that clearly couldn't give a shit. what happened to the cunts that judge people to be fit and proper owners? did they forget to do the test in 2010?

[Mad Dog]

When we were targeting these 6 "easier" games it was obvious they were targeting us.  Because we are truly shit 

[boleyn8420]

Not quite done yet. Are you kidding, 1 point from Fulham, Brighton and Wolves and you don't think we're done, how many points do you think we will get from Arsenal, Liverpool  Man City etc. Done

[RBshorty]

Even if we got out of this. (Which we won’t.) We would be back here again in 365 days time. The only question left. Will relegation be confirmed before Easter.?

[smartypants]

Dyche will be bang up for this game now, this is exactly the type of match he’s made for. We really lacked a leader today and the only 2 players (and maybe Bowen) who might be able to drag us over the line are Paqueta and Soucek and I’m far from confident either will. It’s a sorry state of affairs with a team made up from about 4 different managers. Today was sadly predictable, the only bit I got wrong was that Larson didn’t score. My poor (autistic) 11 year old son really couldn’t understand what was happening today or why I’d made him watch it in what is easily the worst away end I’ve ever been in. 

 

[Massive Attack]

We're not quite done yet.
Lose to Forest and we definitely are.
We are rapidly catching up Wolves in negative goal difference.
The only hope is if Forest completely fall to bits for the rest of the season, I cannot see any of the other teams being remotely in touch.

That is what's frustrating me so much because if we act sooner we could give ourselves a better chsnce of staying up but this Club when it needs to act quicker drags it heels and when it needs to give it more time they act too hastily. Classic BS regime.