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[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[goose]

Oh it happened. You were on here screaming sell when the market corrected last year. And I provided proof I bought the bottom. You weren’t having it. You wouldn’t be told. You thought you knew best but ended up looking like a right mug.

Poor old Goose, sells the bottom and buys the top.

Listen to Goose if you want to lose money.

You’re mental son.
Proper mental.

Not once have I told anyone to sell (or buy). As for your personal finances, I couldn’t care less. I find it so weird that you feel the need to try and prove something to a website full of anonymous strangers.

It’s a fact! Stop fucking lying. It’s documented by your past posts on here. You were screaming Armageddon in a Trump Deranged frenzy. Warning everyone shit was going pear shaped.

I was the only sensible voice arguing for people to not listen to your fuckwittery and to buy the dip. Which I did and posted proof.

Turns out once again, you were fucking clueless and I was fucking correct.

As I said Pick up a book you cսnt!

You have zero credibility! You don’t know what you are talking about. Just because you can read economic data that is printed doesn’t mean you know how to interpret it.


Gotta laugh!

 

 

Post it up sunshine. I’ll wait……….

I pointed to the reaction of the markets to trumps tariffs, which is why he .
Not once did I tell you or anyone to buy or sell anything. But you already knew that.

Youre 60 years old and still working, and desperate for some kind of validation from complete strangers. It’s bizarre.

[Nutsin]

Oh it happened. You were on here screaming sell when the market corrected last year. And I provided proof I bought the bottom. You weren’t having it. You wouldn’t be told. You thought you knew best but ended up looking like a right mug.

Poor old Goose, sells the bottom and buys the top.

Listen to Goose if you want to lose money.

You’re mental son.
Proper mental.

Not once have I told anyone to sell (or buy). As for your personal finances, I couldn’t care less. I find it so weird that you feel the need to try and prove something to a website full of anonymous strangers.

It’s a fact! Stop fucking lying. It’s documented by your past posts on here. You were screaming Armageddon in a Trump Deranged frenzy. Warning everyone shit was going pear shaped.

I was the only sensible voice arguing for people to not listen to your fuckwittery and to buy the dip. Which I did and posted proof.

Turns out once again, you were fucking clueless and I was fucking correct.

As I said Pick up a book you cսnt!

You have zero credibility! You don’t know what you are talking about. Just because you can read economic data that is printed doesn’t mean you know how to interpret it.


Gotta laugh!

Oh and while you’re at the book store pop into the pet store too, see if they’ll sell you a Cat, you cսnt!

[Nutsin]

This again?  Classic Nutsin  

I’m fine thanks without your GCSE insights.

Oh it happened. You were on here screaming sell when the market corrected last year. And I provided proof I bought the bottom. You weren’t having it. You wouldn’t be told. You thought you knew best but ended up looking like a right mug.

Poor old Goose, sells the bottom and buys the top.

Listen to Goose if you want to lose money.

You’re mental son.
Proper mental.

Not once have I told anyone to sell (or buy). As for your personal finances, I couldn’t care less. I find it so weird that you feel the need to try and prove something to a website full of anonymous strangers.

It’s a fact! Stop fucking lying. It’s documented by your past posts on here. You were screaming Armageddon in a Trump Deranged frenzy. Warning everyone shit was going pear shaped.

I was the only sensible voice arguing for people to not listen to your fuckwittery and to buy the dip. Which I did and posted proof.

Turns out once again, you were fucking clueless and I was fucking correct.

As I said Pick up a book you cսnt!

You have zero credibility! You don’t know what you are talking about. Just because you can read economic data that is printed doesn’t mean you know how to interpret it.


Gotta laugh!

[goose]

Yeah you keep selling the bottom and buying the top. 

This again?  Classic Nutsin  

I’m fine thanks without your GCSE insights.

Oh it happened. You were on here screaming sell when the market corrected last year. And I provided proof I bought the bottom. You weren’t having it. You wouldn’t be told. You thought you knew best but ended up looking like a right mug.

Poor old Goose, sells the bottom and buys the top.

Listen to Goose if you want to lose money.

You’re mental son.
Proper mental.

Not once have I told anyone to sell (or buy). As for your personal finances, I couldn’t care less. I find it so weird that you feel the need to try and prove something to a website full of anonymous strangers.

[Nutsin]

Yeh how can I compete with your GCSE  
“micro & macro economics”  

you do make me laugh, please never change.

Yeah you keep selling the bottom and buying the top. 

This again?  Classic Nutsin  

I’m fine thanks without your GCSE insights.

Oh it happened. You were on here screaming sell when the market corrected last year. And I provided proof I bought the bottom. You weren’t having it. You wouldn’t be told. You thought you knew best but ended up looking like a right mug.

Poor old Goose, sells the bottom and buys the top.

Listen to Goose if you want to lose money.

[goose]

I’ve forgotten more than you’ll ever know. Get back to me when you pick up a book. Mr Stagflation.

Yeh how can I compete with your GCSE  
“micro & macro economics”  

you do make me laugh, please never change.

Yeah you keep selling the bottom and buying the top. 

This again?  Classic Nutsin  

I’m fine thanks without your GCSE insights.

[Nutsin]

I got your business studies O-level bang on.
Whens your birthday? I’ll get you one of those idiots guides to economics  

I’ve forgotten more than you’ll ever know. Get back to me when you pick up a book. Mr Stagflation.

Yeh how can I compete with your GCSE  
“micro & macro economics”  

you do make me laugh, please never change.

Yeah you keep selling the bottom and buying the top. 

[goose]

 

Fucking Stagflation, what a cսnt!

Your track record leaves a lot to be desired. Get back to me when you finally get something right. A broken clock is more useful than you.

I got your business studies O-level bang on.
Whens your birthday? I’ll get you one of those idiots guides to economics  

I’ve forgotten more than you’ll ever know. Get back to me when you pick up a book. Mr Stagflation.

Yeh how can I compete with your GCSE  
“micro & macro economics”  

you do make me laugh, please never change.

[Nutsin]

At least I read it once.

Do yourself a favour and catch a clue. You might just stop embarassing yourself.

 

Fucking Stagflation, what a cսnt!

Your track record leaves a lot to be desired. Get back to me when you finally get something right. A broken clock is more useful than you.

I got your business studies O-level bang on.
Whens your birthday? I’ll get you one of those idiots guides to economics  

I’ve forgotten more than you’ll ever know. Get back to me when you pick up a book. Mr Stagflation.

[goose]

barely above 50 and still shedding jobs. take a 6 month view and its goin backwards. what a 'golden age' 

obvious robust growth? obvious to you and??? anyone else? The LEI data (which is forward looking) contradicts that.
The consensus for 2026 is a "low-growth recovery" driven by data centres and defence.

I think you must have read about micro/macro economics once in GCSE business studies once and now that's you fall back when you start getting out of your depth.

At least I read it once.

Do yourself a favour and catch a clue. You might just stop embarassing yourself.

 

Fucking Stagflation, what a cսnt!

Your track record leaves a lot to be desired. Get back to me when you finally get something right. A broken clock is more useful than you.

I got your business studies O-level bang on.
Whens your birthday? I’ll get you one of those idiots guides to economics  

[Nutsin]

Actually PMI is above 50 so it’s not contracting.

Manufacturing is part of capex see Rolls Royce as just one example. There are plenty of others if you care to look. 

Manufacturing is only 10% of US GDP.

Even without the obvious robust growth we will see in manufacturing in the year ahead the US GDP and therefor the US consumer and Economy are gonna do very well under Trump and Trumps policies moving forward.

You must be gutted. Like I keep saying read about the difference between Macro and micro economics then apply them to the US economy. You might just stop mugging yourself off.

barely above 50 and still shedding jobs. take a 6 month view and its goin backwards. what a 'golden age' 

obvious robust growth? obvious to you and??? anyone else? The LEI data (which is forward looking) contradicts that.
The consensus for 2026 is a "low-growth recovery" driven by data centres and defence.

I think you must have read about micro/macro economics once in GCSE business studies once and now that's you fall back when you start getting out of your depth.

At least I read it once.

Do yourself a favour and catch a clue. You might just stop embarassing yourself.

 

 

Fucking Stagflation, what a cսnt!

Your track record leaves a lot to be desired. Get back to me when you finally get something right. A broken clock is more useful than you.

[goose]

Actually PMI is above 50 so it’s not contracting.

Manufacturing is part of capex see Rolls Royce as just one example. There are plenty of others if you care to look. 

Manufacturing is only 10% of US GDP.

Even without the obvious robust growth we will see in manufacturing in the year ahead the US GDP and therefor the US consumer and Economy are gonna do very well under Trump and Trumps policies moving forward.

You must be gutted. Like I keep saying read about the difference between Macro and micro economics then apply them to the US economy. You might just stop mugging yourself off.

barely above 50 and still shedding jobs. take a 6 month view and its goin backwards. what a 'golden age' 

obvious robust growth? obvious to you and??? anyone else? The LEI data (which is forward looking) contradicts that.
The consensus for 2026 is a "low-growth recovery" driven by data centres and defence.

I think you must have read about micro/macro economics once in GCSE business studies once and now that's you fall back when you start getting out of your depth.

At least I read it once.

Do yourself a favour and catch a clue. You might just stop embarassing yourself.

Yup GCSE business studies, I knew it  

actually I bet it was an O-level.

[Nutsin]

 

You should probably take a look at the jobs numbers - there is no growth.

Again I suggest you go back and look at the capital investment data I shared with you. It's data centres/AI driving it. Not cars, not iphones (when are those US made iphones going on sale?), not steelworks.

The manufacturing sector in the US is contracting and so is demand and this while input prices continue to rise.

Be my gust to come back every month with manufacturing PMI.

Actually PMI is above 50 so it’s not contracting.

Manufacturing is part of capex see Rolls Royce as just one example. There are plenty of others if you care to look. 

Manufacturing is only 10% of US GDP.

Even without the obvious robust growth we will see in manufacturing in the year ahead the US GDP and therefor the US consumer and Economy are gonna do very well under Trump and Trumps policies moving forward.

You must be gutted. Like I keep saying read about the difference between Macro and micro economics then apply them to the US economy. You might just stop mugging yourself off.

barely above 50 and still shedding jobs. take a 6 month view and its goin backwards. what a 'golden age' 

obvious robust growth? obvious to you and??? anyone else? The LEI data (which is forward looking) contradicts that.
The consensus for 2026 is a "low-growth recovery" driven by data centres and defence.

I think you must have read about micro/macro economics once in GCSE business studies once and now that's you fall back when you start getting out of your depth.

At least I read it once.

Do yourself a favour and catch a clue. You might just stop embarassing yourself.

[goose]

Cutting Gov’t jobs is good for private sector jobs.

Everybody but you understands that Capex is what lays the table for manufacturing jobs and output. Money is being spent, warehouses, plants and factories are being built. Even Rolls Royce has joined the party. Give it time PMI will follow, those that know understand this natural occurrence, it will happen and when it does I’ll be here to mock you again.

Beginning of last year you were screaming inflation and Stagflation. That obviously didn’t happen. I’ll be back to remind you of what an absolute idiot you are in a few months when the hiring starts and again when production takes off.

 

You should probably take a look at the jobs numbers - there is no growth.

Again I suggest you go back and look at the capital investment data I shared with you. It's data centres/AI driving it. Not cars, not iphones (when are those US made iphones going on sale?), not steelworks.

The manufacturing sector in the US is contracting and so is demand and this while input prices continue to rise.

Be my gust to come back every month with manufacturing PMI.

Actually PMI is above 50 so it’s not contracting.

Manufacturing is part of capex see Rolls Royce as just one example. There are plenty of others if you care to look. 

Manufacturing is only 10% of US GDP.

Even without the obvious robust growth we will see in manufacturing in the year ahead the US GDP and therefor the US consumer and Economy are gonna do very well under Trump and Trumps policies moving forward.

You must be gutted. Like I keep saying read about the difference between Macro and micro economics then apply them to the US economy. You might just stop mugging yourself off.

barely above 50 and still shedding jobs. take a 6 month view and its goin backwards. what a 'golden age' 

obvious robust growth? obvious to you and??? anyone else? The LEI data (which is forward looking) contradicts that.
The consensus for 2026 is a "low-growth recovery" driven by data centres and defence.

I think you must have read about micro/macro economics once in GCSE business studies once and now that's you fall back when you start getting out of your depth.

[Nutsin]

 

I’ve shown you in absolute mathematical terms what demand really is. Backed up by PMI & LEI data. Layer onto that the ballooning personal debt and credit card delinquency and you have the consumer data. If you still wanna ignore basic maths & clear data then I cannot help you.

Funny how when GDP growth was negative in Q1 it was all about the pull forward of inventories, but now when that unwinds you wanna ignore it?

Cutting jobs isn’t going to deliver growth btw. 

Cutting Gov’t jobs is good for private sector jobs.

Everybody but you understands that Capex is what lays the table for manufacturing jobs and output. Money is being spent, warehouses, plants and factories are being built. Even Rolls Royce has joined the party. Give it time PMI will follow, those that know understand this natural occurrence, it will happen and when it does I’ll be here to mock you again.

Beginning of last year you were screaming inflation and Stagflation. That obviously didn’t happen. I’ll be back to remind you of what an absolute idiot you are in a few months when the hiring starts and again when production takes off.

 

You should probably take a look at the jobs numbers - there is no growth.

Again I suggest you go back and look at the capital investment data I shared with you. It's data centres/AI driving it. Not cars, not iphones (when are those US made iphones going on sale?), not steelworks.

The manufacturing sector in the US is contracting and so is demand and this while input prices continue to rise.

Be my gust to come back every month with manufacturing PMI.

Actually PMI is above 50 so it’s not contracting.

Manufacturing is part of capex see Rolls Royce as just one example. There are plenty of others if you care to look. 

Manufacturing is only 10% of US GDP.

Even without the obvious robust growth we will see in manufacturing in the year ahead the US GDP and therefor the US consumer and Economy are gonna do very well under Trump and Trumps policies moving forward.

You must be gutted. Like I keep saying read about the difference between Macro and micro economics then apply them to the US economy. You might just stop mugging yourself off.

[goose]

It really is hard to believe that you are trying to claim the GDP numbers coming in so hot is not good news ffs!

Not only is it a big win but it is happening without much help from the Fed and with the democrats shutting down the Gov’t. Let’s also not forget the amount of Gov’t jobs/ bloat being reduced to help the private sector.

And it’s lead by a strong consumer. Thats what counts.

Pick the peanuts out of that. 

 

I’ve shown you in absolute mathematical terms what demand really is. Backed up by PMI & LEI data. Layer onto that the ballooning personal debt and credit card delinquency and you have the consumer data. If you still wanna ignore basic maths & clear data then I cannot help you.

Funny how when GDP growth was negative in Q1 it was all about the pull forward of inventories, but now when that unwinds you wanna ignore it?

Cutting jobs isn’t going to deliver growth btw. 

Cutting Gov’t jobs is good for private sector jobs.

Everybody but you understands that Capex is what lays the table for manufacturing jobs and output. Money is being spent, warehouses, plants and factories are being built. Even Rolls Royce has joined the party. Give it time PMI will follow, those that know understand this natural occurrence, it will happen and when it does I’ll be here to mock you again.

Beginning of last year you were screaming inflation and Stagflation. That obviously didn’t happen. I’ll be back to remind you of what an absolute idiot you are in a few months when the hiring starts and again when production takes off.

 

 

You should probably take a look at the jobs numbers - there is no growth.

Again I suggest you go back and look at the capital investment data I shared with you. It's data centres/AI driving it. Not cars, not iphones (when are those US made iphones going on sale?), not steelworks.

The manufacturing sector in the US is contracting and so is demand and this while input prices continue to rise.

Be my guest to come back every month with manufacturing PMI.

[Sydney_Iron]

Like a Boss!





 

 

 

 

 

Not really  Just being spun that way?

Denmark keeps its role in Greenland, NO change

US Military bases (as are British or French) are seen as an extension of the country (similar to sovereignty) whilst being used as a military base, if or when they don't want the base anymore it just reverts back! US has always had the option of more bases in Greenland! and use and control of airspace.

US gets mineral rights, as does EU, Australian mining and exploration company's etc, BUT its down to being granted access and approval from the Greenlanders, NO change TBH! 

China and Russia not allowed, Well they are nowhere to be seen now, so no real change?

[Hammer I am]

Like a Boss!

 

 

he left with exactly what he had before, at the price of upsetting all his allies, what a boss!

[Nutsin]

Or maybe the LEI read which has been below 100 for about 6 months straight?

It really is hard to believe that you are trying to claim the GDP numbers coming in so hot is not good news ffs!

Not only is it a big win but it is happening without much help from the Fed and with the democrats shutting down the Gov’t. Let’s also not forget the amount of Gov’t jobs/ bloat being reduced to help the private sector.

And it’s lead by a strong consumer. Thats what counts.

Pick the peanuts out of that. 

 

I’ve shown you in absolute mathematical terms what demand really is. Backed up by PMI & LEI data. Layer onto that the ballooning personal debt and credit card delinquency and you have the consumer data. If you still wanna ignore basic maths & clear data then I cannot help you.

Funny how when GDP growth was negative in Q1 it was all about the pull forward of inventories, but now when that unwinds you wanna ignore it?

Cutting jobs isn’t going to deliver growth btw. 

Cutting Gov’t jobs is good for private sector jobs.

Everybody but you understands that Capex is what lays the table for manufacturing jobs and output. Money is being spent, warehouses, plants and factories are being built. Even Rolls Royce has joined the party. Give it time PMI will follow, those that know understand this natural occurrence, it will happen and when it does I’ll be here to mock you again.

Beginning of last year you were screaming inflation and Stagflation. That obviously didn’t happen. I’ll be back to remind you of what an absolute idiot you are in a few months when the hiring starts and again when production takes off.

[Nutsin]

Like a Boss!

[goose]

Or maybe the LEI read which has been below 100 for about 6 months straight?

It really is hard to believe that you are trying to claim the GDP numbers coming in so hot is not good news ffs!

Not only is it a big win but it is happening without much help from the Fed and with the democrats shutting down the Gov’t. Let’s also not forget the amount of Gov’t jobs/ bloat being reduced to help the private sector.

And it’s lead by a strong consumer. Thats what counts.

Pick the peanuts out of that. 

 

 

I’ve shown you in absolute mathematical terms what demand really is. Backed up by PMI & LEI data. Layer onto that the ballooning personal debt and credit card delinquency and you have the consumer data. If you still wanna ignore basic maths & clear data then I cannot help you.

Funny how when GDP growth was negative in Q1 it was all about the pull forward of inventories, but now when that unwinds you wanna ignore it?

Cutting jobs isn’t going to deliver growth btw. 

[Sydney_Iron]

See the Orange one has come out with more bollocks and insults; he needs to keep his trap shut and for once i agree with Starmer.

 'Insulting': Starmer reacts to Trump's comments on Nato troops in Afghanistan

UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Donald Trump's remarks about British troops in Afghanistan were "insulting and frankly appalling".

[Nutsin]

Or maybe the LEI read which has been below 100 for about 6 months straight?

It really is hard to believe that you are trying to claim the GDP numbers coming in so hot is not good news ffs!

Not only is it a big win but it is happening without much help from the Fed and with the democrats shutting down the Gov’t. Let’s also not forget the amount of Gov’t jobs/ bloat being reduced to help the private sector.

And it’s lead by a strong consumer. Thats what counts.

Pick the peanuts out of that. 

[goose]

Or maybe the LEI read which has been below 100 for about 6 months straight?

[goose]

Sssssh! Don’t tell Goose.

I gave you this lesson yesterday.
Refer back to my posts about net exports & inventories. Strip them away then talk to me about demand.

 

Here you go Goose and remember now, we had a Gov’t shut down that hurt the GDP numbers, without the Dirty Dems playing politics these numbers would be even higher.

I know it hurts!


https://www.atlantafed.org/cqer/researc ... %20percent.

 

 

it's like groundhog day.
gross demand was 2.9%. the net exports is figure is driven by weakening demand which the PMI figures underline.
Q3 in 2023 and Q3 in 2024 were stronger. Who are we blaming for that?