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[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[goose]

Not true, it’s been proven less tax means more consumer spending creating more GDP a vibrant economy and stronger markets which is good for your retirement accounts. Creates the wealth mindset effect, people fell better about spending. 

Once again you show your simpleton understanding of economics.

Pick up a book you cսnt!

It’s been proven that the cost of the growth projected is far outweighed by the loss of tax revenue. $300 odd billion every year.
You were pointed to multiple well respected sources and your own congressional committee all saying the same thing.

you can shout and avoid and throw insults around but these people know what they’re talking about.

How has it been proven? It’s January ffs! This is their opinion, forecasts. Just like Stagflation and Inflation and all the others. Let’s see how much growth we get first and how much tax revenues that brings. You really have no idea. Your lack of understanding is unreal!

You think it’s an ‘opinion’???  

it’s the output of the most advanced technical economic models. 

[goose]

 

What’s interesting about the chart is if you select the 5 yr chart you’ll see that Interest rates took off in 2022, While Biden was in office, right around the time he announced his $5 trillion spending bill whilst telling us we had supply chain issues. 

 

And yet Trump has delivered more debt at a faster rate. 

And yet Interest rates are down and so is inflation, so is crime and drug death.

You know what’s up, GDP. As is Consumer sentiment and wage growth.

Up but slower than the Biden administration in ‘23 and ‘24.

[Nutsin]

But the debt grows at record levels and will grow even faster when the tax cuts land.
Good luck with that.

More debt than Biden, faster acceleration of debt and lower growth. 

Not true, it’s been proven less tax means more consumer spending creating more GDP a vibrant economy and stronger markets which is good for your retirement accounts. Creates the wealth mindset effect, people fell better about spending. 

Once again you show your simpleton understanding of economics.

Pick up a book you cսnt!

It’s been proven that the cost of the growth projected is far outweighed by the loss of tax revenue. $300 odd billion every year.
You were pointed to multiple well respected sources and your own congressional committee all saying the same thing.

you can shout and avoid and throw insults around but these people know what they’re talking about.

How has it been proven? It’s January ffs! This is their opinion, forecasts. Just like Stagflation and Inflation and all the others. Let’s see how much growth we get first and how much tax revenues that brings. You really have no idea. Your lack of understanding is unreal!

[Nutsin]

 

I never said our debt was nothing, I agree with Trump we need lower interest rates so servicing the debt is not so expensive. Rates have been dropping since Trump took office. See the 30 year fixed mortgage rate for proof or the 10 yr T-Bill, 

Here’s the 1 year chart for proof.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGS10

 

What’s interesting about the chart is if you select the 5 yr chart you’ll see that Interest rates took off in 2022, While Biden was in office, right around the time he announced his $5 trillion spending bill whilst telling us we had supply chain issues. 

 

And yet Trump has delivered more debt at a faster rate. 

And yet Interest rates are down and so is inflation, so is crime and drug death.

You know what’s up, GDP. As is Consumer sentiment and wage growth.

[goose]

 

I never said our debt was nothing, I agree with Trump we need lower interest rates so servicing the debt is not so expensive. Rates have been dropping since Trump took office. See the 30 year fixed mortgage rate for proof or the 10 yr T-Bill, 

Here’s the 1 year chart for proof.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGS10

But the debt grows at record levels and will grow even faster when the tax cuts land.
Good luck with that.

More debt than Biden, faster acceleration of debt and lower growth. 

Not true, it’s been proven less tax means more consumer spending creating more GDP a vibrant economy and stronger markets which is good for your retirement accounts. Creates the wealth mindset effect, people fell better about spending. 

Once again you show your simpleton understanding of economics.

Pick up a book you cսnt!

It’s been proven that the cost of the growth projected is far outweighed by the loss of tax revenue. $300 odd billion every year.
You were pointed to multiple well respected sources and your own congressional committee all saying the same thing.

you can shout and avoid and throw insults around but these people know what they’re talking about.

[goose]

 

So when you posted about GDP data why bother? It’s a nothing burger right? Just happens to be a slower growth than Biden. 
Did your GCSE teach you that GDP growth was nothing but deregulation was really important? No wonder you failed.

And that record accumulation of debt is nothing as well right?

Biden was a corpse in office but that corpse delivered more growth than your orange abuser  

 

I never said our debt was nothing, I agree with Trump we need lower interest rates so servicing the debt is not so expensive. Rates have been dropping since Trump took office. See the 30 year fixed mortgage rate for proof or the 10 yr T-Bill, 

Here’s the 1 year chart for proof.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGS10

 

What’s interesting about the chart is if you select the 5 yr chart you’ll see that Interest rates took off in 2022, While Biden was in office, right around the time he announced his $5 trillion spending bill whilst telling us we had supply chain issues. 

 

 

And yet Trump has delivered more debt at a faster rate. 

[Nutsin]

 

So when you posted about GDP data why bother? It’s a nothing burger right? Just happens to be a slower growth than Biden. 
Did your GCSE teach you that GDP growth was nothing but deregulation was really important? No wonder you failed.

And that record accumulation of debt is nothing as well right?

Biden was a corpse in office but that corpse delivered more growth than your orange abuser  

 

I never said our debt was nothing, I agree with Trump we need lower interest rates so servicing the debt is not so expensive. Rates have been dropping since Trump took office. See the 30 year fixed mortgage rate for proof or the 10 yr T-Bill, 

Here’s the 1 year chart for proof.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGS10

But the debt grows at record levels and will grow even faster when the tax cuts land.
Good luck with that.

More debt than Biden, faster acceleration of debt and lower growth. 

Not true, it’s been proven less tax means more consumer spending creating more GDP a vibrant economy and stronger markets which is good for your retirement accounts. Creates the wealth mindset effect, people fell better about spending. 

Once again you show your simpleton understanding of economics.

Pick up a book you cսnt!

[Nutsin]

What does it matter, the economy is now picking up steam, it’s what’s in front of us what counts you retard.
Markets are priced on what lies ahead. Tax cuts kick this year, Deregulation is happening at a fast clip, new technology, Trillions in new investment. Nobody cares about your silly little nothingburger negative data point. It’s not relevant! 

 

So when you posted about GDP data why bother? It’s a nothing burger right? Just happens to be a slower growth than Biden. 
Did your GCSE teach you that GDP growth was nothing but deregulation was really important? No wonder you failed.

And that record accumulation of debt is nothing as well right?

Biden was a corpse in office but that corpse delivered more growth than your orange abuser  

 

I never said our debt was nothing, I agree with Trump we need lower interest rates so servicing the debt is not so expensive. Rates have been dropping since Trump took office. See the 30 year fixed mortgage rate for proof or the 10 yr T-Bill, 

Here’s the 1 year chart for proof.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGS10

 

 

What’s interesting about the chart is if you select the 5 yr chart you’ll see that Interest rates took off in 2022, While Biden was in office, right around the time he announced his $5 trillion spending bill whilst telling us we had supply chain issues. 

[goose]

What does it matter, the economy is now picking up steam, it’s what’s in front of us what counts you retard.
Markets are priced on what lies ahead. Tax cuts kick this year, Deregulation is happening at a fast clip, new technology, Trillions in new investment. Nobody cares about your silly little nothingburger negative data point. It’s not relevant! 

 

So when you posted about GDP data why bother? It’s a nothing burger right? Just happens to be a slower growth than Biden. 
Did your GCSE teach you that GDP growth was nothing but deregulation was really important? No wonder you failed.

And that record accumulation of debt is nothing as well right?

Biden was a corpse in office but that corpse delivered more growth than your orange abuser  

 

I never said our debt was nothing, I agree with Trump we need lower interest rates so servicing the debt is not so expensive. Rates have been dropping since Trump took office. See the 30 year fixed mortgage rate for proof or the 10 yr T-Bill, 

Here’s the 1 year chart for proof.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGS10

But the debt grows at record levels and will grow even faster when the tax cuts land.
Good luck with that.

More debt than Biden, faster acceleration of debt and lower growth. 

[Nutsin]

Simple way to prove that big boy.
whats the full year 2025 GDP?

What does it matter, the economy is now picking up steam, it’s what’s in front of us what counts you retard.
Markets are priced on what lies ahead. Tax cuts kick this year, Deregulation is happening at a fast clip, new technology, Trillions in new investment. Nobody cares about your silly little nothingburger negative data point. It’s not relevant! 

 

So when you posted about GDP data why bother? It’s a nothing burger right? Just happens to be a slower growth than Biden. 
Did your GCSE teach you that GDP growth was nothing but deregulation was really important? No wonder you failed.

And that record accumulation of debt is nothing as well right?

Biden was a corpse in office but that corpse delivered more growth than your orange abuser  

 

 

I never said our debt was nothing, I agree with Trump we need lower interest rates so servicing the debt is not so expensive. Rates have been dropping since Trump took office. See the 30 year fixed mortgage rate for proof or the 10 yr T-Bill, 

Here’s the 1 year chart for proof.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGS10

[goose]

5% GDP  
​
​​​ no wonder you failed that GCSE

That’s the Atlanta Fed forecast, they forecast 5.4- 5.6%. They have the reputation of having the best model for this. Those that know this follow it, markets and investors pay attention to this. It matters a whole lot more than your silly backward looking data points.

The mere fact that you don’t understand that it’s what’s in front of us that counts says it all.

Once again you are proving just how little you understand economics and markets.

It’s below GCSE grade. Did you graduate high school?

 

It’s a Q4 forecast which has been widely debunked and is driven by demand import which has fallen off a cliff. Even 5% lands a full year growth behind Biden.
LEI is the most widely used tool for forward projection, shall we talk about that?
“High school”  
 

[goose]

What a load of bollocks!

Simple way to prove that big boy.
whats the full year 2025 GDP?

What does it matter, the economy is now picking up steam, it’s what’s in front of us what counts you retard.
Markets are priced on what lies ahead. Tax cuts kick this year, Deregulation is happening at a fast clip, new technology, Trillions in new investment. Nobody cares about your silly little nothingburger negative data point. It’s not relevant! 

 

 

So when you posted about GDP data why bother? It’s a nothing burger right? Just happens to be a slower growth than Biden. 
Did your GCSE teach you that GDP growth was nothing but deregulation was really important? No wonder you failed.

And that record accumulation of debt is nothing as well right?

Biden was a corpse in office but that corpse delivered more growth than your orange abuser  

[Nutsin]

5% GDP  
​
​​​ no wonder you failed that GCSE

That’s the Atlanta Fed forecast, they forecast 5.4- 5.6%. They have the reputation of having the best model for this. Those that know this follow it, markets and investors pay attention to this. It matters a whole lot more than your silly backward looking data points.

The mere fact that you don’t understand that it’s what’s in front of us that counts says it all.

Once again you are proving just how little you understand economics and markets.

It’s below GCSE grade. Did you graduate high school?

[Nutsin]

 

Your track record is worshipping a makeup wearing abuser of woman and posting random links from Facebook which are quite often proven to be complete nonsense.

Every data point & fact you are presented you hide behind “liberal myth” and your failed GCSE business studies.

The ‘golden age’ you talk of is actually a worse jobs market than Biden, a higher national debt and faster acceleration of debt, lower manufacturing jobs and output, and most importantly slower gdp growth than 2023 and 2024 under Biden.

slower growth than Biden. What a golden age  

What a load of bollocks!

Simple way to prove that big boy.
whats the full year 2025 GDP?

What does it matter, the economy is now picking up steam, it’s what’s in front of us what counts you retard.
Markets are priced on what lies ahead. Tax cuts kick this year, Deregulation is happening at a fast clip, new technology, Trillions in new investment. Nobody cares about your silly little nothingburger negative data point. It’s not relevant! 

[goose]

 

I say we because we all witnessed it. FACT!
You continually pick out negative data points that are minor details and present them like they are a bigger issue than they are.
In one breath you are playing the long game regarding Stagflation LOL. In the other you point out lagging data as disastrous such as  manufacturing output. Nobody is thick enough to not understand that Jobs and manufacturing output follows Capex, except you.

my track record speaks for itself, I’ve been dead right, while you’ve been proven to be nothing but wrong, which will continue by the way.

I’d like to say you amuse me but you constantly blowing up every thread chasing Joyo around with your childish, retarded abuse is far from entertaining. You’re just a shit bully with fuck all to offer. 

 

Your track record is worshipping a makeup wearing abuser of woman and posting random links from Facebook which are quite often proven to be complete nonsense.

Every data point & fact you are presented you hide behind “liberal myth” and your failed GCSE business studies.

The ‘golden age’ you talk of is actually a worse jobs market than Biden, a higher national debt and faster acceleration of debt, lower manufacturing jobs and output, and most importantly slower gdp growth than 2023 and 2024 under Biden.

slower growth than Biden. What a golden age  

What a load of bollocks!

Simple way to prove that big boy.
whats the full year 2025 GDP?

[goose]

5% GDP  
​
​​​ no wonder you failed that GCSE

[Nutsin]

We? No just you.
You get presented with clear data & facts from your own government or renowned experts, your response is always ‘liberal myth’ or GCSE business studies. Although I’m reasonably certain you failed it.

You don’t have a point, you just post random links from Facebook.

Like I said, you’re 60 years old, still working and you have some desperate need for validation of your life from anonymous strangers. Your (late) midlife crisis brings me amusement every day

 

I say we because we all witnessed it. FACT!
You continually pick out negative data points that are minor details and present them like they are a bigger issue than they are.
In one breath you are playing the long game regarding Stagflation LOL. In the other you point out lagging data as disastrous such as  manufacturing output. Nobody is thick enough to not understand that Jobs and manufacturing output follows Capex, except you.

my track record speaks for itself, I’ve been dead right, while you’ve been proven to be nothing but wrong, which will continue by the way.

I’d like to say you amuse me but you constantly blowing up every thread chasing Joyo around with your childish, retarded abuse is far from entertaining. You’re just a shit bully with fuck all to offer. 

 

Your track record is worshipping a makeup wearing abuser of woman and posting random links from Facebook which are quite often proven to be complete nonsense.

Every data point & fact you are presented you hide behind “liberal myth” and your failed GCSE business studies.

The ‘golden age’ you talk of is actually a worse jobs market than Biden, a higher national debt and faster acceleration of debt, lower manufacturing jobs and output, and most importantly slower gdp growth than 2023 and 2024 under Biden.

slower growth than Biden. What a golden age  

What a load of bollocks!

[goose]

I think we all know it happened.

Amazing that you still have the Nads to come on here and talk economics when you obviously don’t understand what is happening. All you can do is read a report, without any basic understanding of what it means. A bit like a six year old.


But thanks for the laugh!

We? No just you.
You get presented with clear data & facts from your own government or renowned experts, your response is always ‘liberal myth’ or GCSE business studies. Although I’m reasonably certain you failed it.

You don’t have a point, you just post random links from Facebook.

Like I said, you’re 60 years old, still working and you have some desperate need for validation of your life from anonymous strangers. Your (late) midlife crisis brings me amusement every day

 

I say we because we all witnessed it. FACT!
You continually pick out negative data points that are minor details and present them like they are a bigger issue than they are.
In one breath you are playing the long game regarding Stagflation LOL. In the other you point out lagging data as disastrous such as  manufacturing output. Nobody is thick enough to not understand that Jobs and manufacturing output follows Capex, except you.

my track record speaks for itself, I’ve been dead right, while you’ve been proven to be nothing but wrong, which will continue by the way.

I’d like to say you amuse me but you constantly blowing up every thread chasing Joyo around with your childish, retarded abuse is far from entertaining. You’re just a shit bully with fuck all to offer. 

 

 

Your track record is worshipping a makeup wearing abuser of woman and posting random links from Facebook which are quite often proven to be complete nonsense.

Every data point & fact you are presented you hide behind “liberal myth” and your failed GCSE business studies.

The ‘golden age’ you talk of is actually a worse jobs market than Biden, a higher national debt and faster acceleration of debt, lower manufacturing jobs and output, and most importantly slower gdp growth than 2023 and 2024 under Biden.

slower growth than Biden. What a golden age  

[Nutsin]

_{Nutjob. Is there nothing the retard in the Whire House can do or say that you would criticize? Y}



 

 

 

Hello Jones, you again.

I don’t get caught up in the lefts constant theatrics about Trump. We all know the left are gonna throw their toys out of their pram every chance they get. So Iignore their bullshit, perhaps you’d be better served if you did too.

Here’s what I do pay attention to.
A secure border. Something Biden couldn’t do, Was he rally that useless?

Crime rates plummeting and Drug overdoses plummeting too. Wonder why that is? Could it be Trumps policies perhaps?

Massive fraud being used to fund Democratics campaigns, see Minnesotta.

Irans nuclear program being obliterated.
Maduro and his hateful regime being decapitated, the Venezuelans like that too.

The end of Wokism , no more men in women’s sports, tax cuts, less regulation, 5% GDP, cheaper oil, gasoline prices, the ending of 8 wars, the Abraham accords and a better model for the Middle East, much better than any Democrat has ever offered. America first and common sense policy on Immigration. A fully funded military and peace rough strength. A fully funded NATO and a better protected Arctic circle.The fall of the evil Iranian regime and the end of Communist Cuba. I could go on.

So what’s your point?

[Hammer I am]

Nazi, Facist, Communist, Stalinist  -  all 'dramatic' labels thrown by one side against the other. 



 

add libtards to that, fancy being threatened by a bunch of mungbean eating, low iron, bluehaired fops

[Nutsin]

Yup thought as much. 
Never happened did it?

I think we all know it happened.

Amazing that you still have the Nads to come on here and talk economics when you obviously don’t understand what is happening. All you can do is read a report, without any basic understanding of what it means. A bit like a six year old.


But thanks for the laugh!

We? No just you.
You get presented with clear data & facts from your own government or renowned experts, your response is always ‘liberal myth’ or GCSE business studies. Although I’m reasonably certain you failed it.

You don’t have a point, you just post random links from Facebook.

Like I said, you’re 60 years old, still working and you have some desperate need for validation of your life from anonymous strangers. Your (late) midlife crisis brings me amusement every day

 

 

I say we because we all witnessed it. FACT!
You continually pick out negative data points that are minor details and present them like they are a bigger issue than they are.
In one breath you are playing the long game regarding Stagflation LOL. In the other you point out lagging data as disastrous such as  manufacturing output. Nobody is thick enough to not understand that Jobs and manufacturing output follows Capex, except you.

my track record speaks for itself, I’ve been dead right, while you’ve been proven to be nothing but wrong, which will continue by the way.

I’d like to say you amuse me but you constantly blowing up every thread chasing Joyo around with your childish, retarded abuse is far from entertaining. You’re just a shit bully with fuck all to offer. 

[nychammer]

Nazi, Facist, Communist, Stalinist  -  all 'dramatic' labels thrown by one side against the other. 


 

[Mike Oxsaw]

The rise of Nigel has been good as it’s outed all the Tories who thought their party didn’t goose step enough
A bit like how Trump has rallied the inner fascist of Republicans 
 

A bit like how Trump has rallied the inner fascist wealth creators of Republicans .

There. Adjusted it to align more with the reality of the world we all live in, not your sixth-form debating forum ideal world,

[Fauxstralian]

The rise of Nigel has been good as it’s outed all the Tories who thought their party didn’t goose step enough
A bit like how Trump has rallied the inner fascist of Republicans 

[Far Cough UKunt]

I'd rather have Nigel than Keir Stalin.