The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Nurse Ratched]

=12.35px"Take John Prescott, John like Nigel was charismatic and people generally liked him so he got away with lamping a member of the public."

That member of the public deserved to get lamped. 

[THUNDERCLINT]

I am slightly bemused about the acceptance of Nigel as an 18yo (and probably older… what if anything changed his mind?)
I can imagine if Starmer was accused of the same it wouldn’t be accepted so calmly
Reminds me a bit of Trump supporters
As Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose a vote
Doing it in Minnesota now for real

 

 

It's not very complicated at all so I understand why you don't get it.

Some people have a skill or a persoal characteristic which makes them useful or liked and admired which means indiscretions are forgiven.

Othe people are just cunts and get treated accordingly.

Take John Prescott, John like Nigel was charismatic and people generally liked him so he got away with lamping a member of the public.

Mike Amesbury, like Starmer, is a rotten festering pus filled cսnt so when he lamped a member of the public he got porridge.

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

 

Crowborough has a Tory MP - Nus Ghani.

 

 

This is correct.

It's actually the Green Party's Deputy Leader Rachel Millward who objects to migrants being housed in her area.

[OK_Guy]

I stand corrected... sure I saw a Green MP getting slaughtered at a local meeting about the camp.

[One Sunny Day]

people forget it was Blair & Co. who opened the door to mass-immigration to keep New-Labour in power, admitted by Milliband in 2009...  look what's happening in that Nazi-town Crowborough ( the sitting Green MP doesn't want immigrants in 'her' constituency)... and people wonder why Reform will win next GE, only complacency by the Electorate thinking Reform will win will give other Party's a chance.

btw... I used to call people cunts when I was at school, some still are. 

 

 

Crowborough has a Tory MP - Nus Ghani.

[Nurse Ratched]

Was told that if I didn’t like the prospect of a Reform government I should LEAVE THE COUNTRY 
I lived through Thatcher & Johnson as PM so doesn’t affect me THAT much

And of course if people are so upset about the current government why are YOU still here?
Mr Sharia Tice might have a spare room for you
Inshallah 

I think I already said I voted for this Government 
Pay attention 

I didn't tell you to leave the country.

I'm still here because this is my beloved home and I am a 'somewhere' not an 'anywhere'

If you did, I missed it. So IF you did, please accept my apologies for accusing you of being evasive about it.

[Fauxstralian]

Was told that if I didn’t like the prospect of a Reform government I should LEAVE THE COUNTRY 
I lived through Thatcher & Johnson as PM so doesn’t affect me THAT much

And of course if people are so upset about the current government why are YOU still here?
Mr Sharia Tice might have a spare room for you
Inshallah 

I think I already said I voted for this Government 
Pay attention 

[OK_Guy]

people forget it was Blair & Co. who opened the door to mass-immigration to keep New-Labour in power, admitted by Milliband in 2009...  look what's happening in that Nazi-town Crowborough ( the sitting Green MP doesn't want immigrants in 'her' constituency)... and people wonder why Reform will win next GE, only complacency by the Electorate thinking Reform will win will give other Party's a chance.

btw... I used to call people cunts when I was at school, some still are. 

[Nurse Ratched]

Apologies, I assumed it would be easily inferred. I voted Reform. I will vote Reform next time, too.

For avoidance of doubt, I am a Thatcherite who also voted for Brexit.

Are you prepared to be as frank and honest about voting Labour? We know someone must have.

 

[Fauxstralian]

Nurse
Seem to have missed who you voted for instead of Starmer 
 

[Far Cough UKunt]

The bloke is just a plastic Oz bellend.

[Nurse Ratched]

("I don't understand. Every time I mention Farage I call him a Nazi. Why are people still going to vote for him when I have expressly - at every opportunity - called him a Nazi? Why isn't this working? I know - I should keep on calling Nigel Farage a Nazi")

[Eerie Decent]

Farage is a Nazi

 

 

You silly, pathetic cսnt.

This sort of made up bollocks is exactly why he is going to win the next election by landslide. Do you not understand that these childish fake orchestrated accusations are convincing people even more that a change is needed?

In fact, carry on with it.

[Fauxstralian]

I am slightly bemused about the acceptance of Nigel as an 18yo (and probably older… what if anything changed his mind?)
I can imagine if Starmer was accused of the same it wouldn’t be accepted so calmly
Reminds me a bit of Trump supporters
As Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose a vote
Doing it in Minnesota now for real

[One Sunny Day]

Trying to work out how getting Braverman is a good thing for Reform. Reform supporters are well known for their top priority, by far, to be stopping the boats and getting rid of immigrants. Remind me again about how Braverman did on that score while she was Home Secretary? More small boat crossings than ever and spunked millions of tax payers pounds on a failed bid to swap a few asylum seekers that had shown up in the UK with some Rwandans.

[Nurse Ratched]

Wes Streeting: student politics to public sector wonk to Labour mp. 

Versus

Richard Tice: very successful multi millionaire businessman before entering politics, was a leading driver in the Brexit movement (the biggest exercise in democracy in our generation) 

You silly sausage. 

The rest of your comment is depressingly childish twaddle about Nazis. Can you do better?

[Mike Oxsaw]

No list (yet) if Labour ministers/MPs doing such a good job that they deserve re-electing?

[Fauxstralian]

Farage is a Nazi & Tice lives under Sharia law by choice 
As poor as Starmer has been being not a Nazi puts him ahead 
Streeting I understand lives in England so I put him ahead of Tice
As for Truss I think any government minister who has died recently or sustained a brain injury has her covered

[Eerie Decent]

And you think that parade of clowns can run the country?
Which ‘real world’ do YOU live in?
I know it’s a wet dream for you Essex Thatcherites but how exactly do you expect Nigel, Tice, Truss & a bunch of teenage councillors to run a country without driving it into a ditch

 

 

 

I'm not cock-a-hoop about them, however, the left-centrist Tories and the left-centrist Labourites have completely and utterly ruined the country, dating back to the Evil Blair reign. Do I think Reform are the complete answer? No. If I had my way, Rupert Lowe would run the country, but it's not going to happen.

We need a change, and as it stands, Reform are now the only show in town. People in the real world have had enough, the destruction of the country that has happened since 1997 has finally awoken the sort of people that wouldn't normally bother to vote.

Regardless of your pathetic little digs, it's happening. Get yourself back to Australia if you're that bothered, you won't be missed.

[Fauxstralian]

Nurse
Given a choice of Starmer, a Nazi or a continuation of Tory incompetence under Sunak (following Cameron May Johnson Truss) I did vote for my Labour candidate
I take it you voted for Reform or more of the Tories
Please advise
Dont be shy

Starmer has been atrocious which is why I was hoping he would be replaced asap
That will happen after the upcoming May debacle I suspect 

[One Sunny Day]

Per Trillion dollars in GDP generates approx &165-190 Billion dependant on who’s algorithm you choose to believe. Since 2020 US GDP has grown from $20 Trillion to $30 Trillion. Even with your speculative numbers that would more than pay for Trumps tax cuts and then some.

But do Carry on telling everyone just how much GDP the Us will generate over the next 5 years. We’re all ears.

Per Grok AI.

The amount of tax revenue generated per $1 trillion in GDP depends on the tax-to-GDP ratio (also called the revenue-to-GDP ratio), which varies significantly by country, what level of government is included (federal/national only vs. all levels including state/local), and the specific year (due to economic conditions, policy changes, etc.).

This ratio represents the percentage of GDP collected as tax revenue. Therefore:

- Tax revenue per $1 trillion GDP = (tax-to-GDP ratio as a decimal) × $1 trillion.

### Key Examples (Based on Recent Data)
- United States (most common context for this question in USD terms):
  - Total tax revenue (federal + state + local): Typically around 25–27% of GDP in recent years.
    - OECD data for 2023: 25.2% total tax-to-GDP ratio.
    - Earlier/recent estimates (2021–2024 period): Often cited around 27% (Tax Policy Center) or similar.
    - → This means roughly $250–270 billion in total tax revenue per $1 trillion of GDP.
  - Federal revenue only (what people often mean by "tax revenue" in US discussions): Usually 16–19% of GDP.
    - Recent figures: Around 17% (U.S. Treasury Fiscal Data for FY 2025 estimates).
    - Historical average (last 40+ years): ~17.4% (CBO).
    - In some years like 2022: Closer to 19–20%.
    - → This means roughly $170–190 billion in federal tax revenue per $1 trillion of GDP.

You can go argue with Grok if you like.

Using Grok isn't the nail in the coffin you think it is, it still gets simple things wrong a lot, let alone moderately complex ones 

Nutsin's using the online child porn maker tool to argue for him? Haha! Doesn't surprise me. We already know he loves a rapist and is continually projecting about it.

[Nurse Ratched]

Labour & 14 years of Tory incompetence have been terrible Nurse
But happy to hear how you think Reform with Nigel , Tice, Jenrick , Truss , Zahawi, Braverman etc will be better
The floor is yours
Do you seriously think that crew can run a country?

 

 

It'll be different. It'll shake things up and break the gooey centrist monopoly that Labour and the tories have inflicted on us for 40-odd years. That's enough for me right now. 

Now I'll be happy to hear your thoughts on why Labour (who you very clearly voted for, despite your evasion) are better than Reform would be, and which of their ministers are better than Farage, Tice, etc. Name names.

[Massive Attack]

Labour & 14 years of Tory incompetence have been terrible Nurse
But happy to hear how you think Reform with Nigel , Tice, Jenrick , Truss , Zahawi, Braverman etc will be better
The floor is yours
Do you seriously think that crew can run a country?

Better than the current lot, Lib Dems and Greens, yes.

[Fauxstralian]

Labour & 14 years of Tory incompetence have been terrible Nurse
But happy to hear how you think Reform with Nigel , Tice, Jenrick , Truss , Zahawi, Braverman etc will be better
The floor is yours
Do you seriously think that crew can run a country?

[Fauxstralian]

And you think that parade of clowns can run the country?
Which ‘real world’ do YOU live in?
I know it’s a wet dream for you Essex Thatcherites but how exactly do you expect Nigel, Tice, Truss & a bunch of teenage councillors to run a country without driving it into a ditch