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[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Massive Attack]

Ah, whataboutery...let's deal with this prick first shall we?

Why did he need a laser sighted sidearm at a, I'm guessing the intent was peaceful, protest?

 

It's not whataboutary, should have preempted you saying something so idiotic, I haven't changed the point, talking about a different class of gun within the same frame of reference is not whataboutary, it's a valid point. Do you have a problem with guns of any class being allowed in public or what? I mentioned assault rifles as suddenly you feel a laser sight is too much, when people have been openly carrying AR-15s in MAGA protests for the last couple of years

It's not whataboutery when you start a question with "And what about... " in order to deflect rather than answer the point

You clown, that's exactly what whataboutery is.

What whataboutery is about is that it's about what something else is about.

[THUNDERCLINT]

Is there a restriction on the type of gun someone should be allowed to carry now?





 

Never said there was or should be. 

The point you're contorting yourself to dodge is why take one to a  (peaceful) protest?

Was the protest at Capitol Hill Peaceful or an incitement to violence then? plenty of guns on display there

Well if we ever get to the bottom of that one and find out what Ray Epps and the hundreds of FBI assest were really up to I'll let you know.

But you carry on with the endless whataboutery.

[THUNDERCLINT]

So much of the recent unrest In Minneapolis is a result of who is in the White House.

So politically motivated violence, like terrorism?

[THUNDERCLINT]

And what about assault rifles?

Ah, whataboutery...let's deal with this prick first shall we?

Why did he need a laser sighted sidearm at a, I'm guessing the intent was peaceful, protest?

 

It's not whataboutary, should have preempted you saying something so idiotic, I haven't changed the point, talking about a different class of gun within the same frame of reference is not whataboutary, it's a valid point. Do you have a problem with guns of any class being allowed in public or what? I mentioned assault rifles as suddenly you feel a laser sight is too much, when people have been openly carrying AR-15s in MAGA protests for the last couple of years

It's not whataboutery when you start a question with "And what about... " in order to deflect rather than answer the point

You clown, that's exactly what whataboutery is.

The point I've made which your so keen to dance around but not touch is why he felt the need to take a specialised firearm to a "peaceful" protest. I never said a laser sight was " too much" I said it changes the nature of why the weapon is carried.

As for firearms in public I really couldn't care less, go fucking nuts, legalise stinger missles. I don't care. 

[Mr Anon]

Amusing that the NRA and hardline republicans have pushed back against trumps claim  that guns have no place at a protest. you agree with open carry or even closed laws or not? Some of you can't seem to decide

I agree with all of the above, however you need to use a little common sense with such a responsibility, don’t you agree?

 

 

Maybe we're both agreeing here, I don't believe any guns of any sort should be carried by civilians at a protest

[only1billybonds]

Attention should be drawn to Nurse's post at 15.09.

Under Obama, 51 civilians died at the hands of ICE agents. These same agents received nothing but applause from the left wing media/establishment.

Obama deported more than 8 million people during his two terms.

Obama pinned a madal on Tom Homan, the Trump appointed border czar. Homan is now seen as a menace to the public.

So much of the recent unrest In Minneapolis is a result of who is in the White House.

[Nutsin]

Amusing that the NRA and hardline republicans have pushed back against trumps claim  that guns have no place at a protest. you agree with open carry or even closed laws or not? Some of you can't seem to decide

I agree with all of the above, however you need to use a little common sense with such a responsibility, don’t you agree?

[Mr Anon]

Amusing that the NRA and hardline republicans have pushed back against trumps claim  that guns have no place at a protest. you agree with open carry or even closed laws or not? Some of you can't seem to decide

[Mr Anon]

Is there a restriction on the type of gun someone should be allowed to carry now?




 

Never said there was or should be. 

The point you're contorting yourself to dodge is why take one to a  (peaceful) protest?

Was the protest at Capitol Hill Peaceful or an incitement to violence then? plenty of guns on display there

[Nutsin]

[Mr Anon]

 

A pistol carried for self defence is likely to be used purely as a deterrent or at reasonably close range.

A laser sighted pistol implies a completely different intent and the presumption of needing to be very accurate at a longer range.

And what about assault rifles?

Ah, whataboutery...let's deal with this prick first shall we?

Why did he need a laser sighted sidearm at a, I'm guessing the intent was peaceful, protest?

 

 

It's not whataboutary, should have preempted you saying something so idiotic, I haven't changed the point, talking about a different class of gun within the same frame of reference is not whataboutary, it's a valid point. Do you have a problem with guns of any class being allowed in public or what? I mentioned assault rifles as suddenly you feel a laser sight is too much, when people have been openly carrying AR-15s in MAGA protests for the last couple of years

[Massive Attack]

Is there a restriction on the type of gun someone should be allowed to carry now?







 

Never said there was or should be. 

The point you're contorting yourself to dodge is why take one to a  (peaceful) protest?

Totally normal behaviour. Especially for an intensive Nurse.. *Looks nervously over in Nurse Ratcheds direction* 

Geezer was half expecting a shoot-out when in the close vicinity of ICE agents. Thick as mince prat fucked about and found out, as they say. 

[THUNDERCLINT]

Is there a restriction on the type of gun someone should be allowed to carry now?



 

Never said there was or should be. 

The point you're contorting yourself to dodge is why take one to a  (peaceful) protest?

[THUNDERCLINT]

What's the issue with a laser sight? if you had to use one why wouldn't you want to shoot straight? 

 

A pistol carried for self defence is likely to be used purely as a deterrent or at reasonably close range.

A laser sighted pistol implies a completely different intent and the presumption of needing to be very accurate at a longer range.

And what about assault rifles?

Ah, whataboutery...let's deal with this prick first shall we?

Why did he need a laser sighted sidearm at a, I'm guessing the intent was peaceful, protest?

[Mr Anon]

Why would you take a firearm to a vigil/protest?

And not just a regular run of the mill concealled carry straight out of the box one but one which is laser sighted...

What's the issue with a laser sight? if you had to use one why wouldn't you want to shoot straight? 

 

A pistol carried for self defence is likely to be used purely as a deterrent or at reasonably close range.

A laser sighted pistol implies a completely different intent and the presumption of needing to be very accurate at a longer range.

And what about assault rifles?

[Fauxstralian]

Is there a restriction on the type of gun someone should be allowed to carry now?
Someone should tell the NRA that they are being undermined by Republicans 
Man up you soft cock commies

Not aware of Obama sending untrained masked gunmen onto the streets to shoot people dead during the course of identifying and removing illegals

 

[Nutsin]

The Governor Tim Walz spoke with Trump about ICE and what’s happened and Trump told him that he will be happy to reduce ICE numbers if the police co-operate amd hand over the criminals instead of letting them back out on the street. 
Trump is not going to allow the Sancguary city madness to continue.
As for Walz he’s probably trying to negotiate a pardon for his involvement in all the fraud that’s been going on where there are whistleblowers and evidence verifying he knew it was happening but allowed it because it funded the Dem party.

the Dems are rotten to the core.
 

[Nurse Ratched]

Bottom line, if Saint Barak of Obama was driving these deportations of illegals, no one would care. 

[Pub Bigot]

More slave trade nonsense

£1.1 mill for a vanity project? Constantly harping on about the slave trade never the work done to stop it. 

If they want to build a memorial, do it for those who lost their lives stopping human trafficking, and shame the African chieftains who sold their own people. 

[THUNDERCLINT]

I don't have an issue with how they remove offending illegals, don't have an issue with targeted arrests full stop, it's more their routine "check ins" of places of work and rounding up of working illegals that all feels a little "where are your papers?" and wearing masks and balaclavas is reinforcing that image.

 

That's entirely the point, they don't have papers because they're, duh, fucking illegals.

And the masks and balaclavas wouldn't be necessary if they and their families weren't at risk of being doxed by scumny commies.

[THUNDERCLINT]

Yes, Trump did say the bloke murdered shouldn’t have been carrying a legal gun in a holster which was taken off him
I guess he is finally coming round to the idea that citizens walking round with guns is insane 
Maybe that’s progress … or a bit more dementia 

Why would you take a firearm to a vigil/protest?

And not just a regular run of the mill concealled carry straight out of the box one but one which is laser sighted...

What's the issue with a laser sight? if you had to use one why wouldn't you want to shoot straight? 

 

 

A pistol carried for self defence is likely to be used purely as a deterrent or at reasonably close range.

A laser sighted pistol implies a completely different intent and the presumption of needing to be very accurate at a longer range.

[Takashi Miike]

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[Council Scum]

As an American who are entitled to carry a legal weapon to the grocery store, a protest, a Charlie Kirk rally, a President Trump rally, a child care centre, a school or a football match
Anyone who says otherwise is un American , a soft cock liberal commie and should be rounded up and deported. Or shot in the back by the ICE Gestapo

But why would you feel the need to take a laser sighted firearm to a protest?

If it's all tolerant soy fed commies on a jollytheys outing why would you even think "I know I'd better take my laser sighted Sig Sauer 9mm?"

I mean, he was a nurse, wouldn't he be taking a first aid kit to help. 

[THUNDERCLINT]

As an American who are entitled to carry a legal weapon to the grocery store, a protest, a Charlie Kirk rally, a President Trump rally, a child care centre, a school or a football match
Anyone who says otherwise is un American , a soft cock liberal commie and should be rounded up and deported. Or shot in the back by the ICE Gestapo

But why would you feel the need to take a laser sighted firearm to a protest?

If it's all tolerant soy fed commies on a jollytheys outing why would you even think "I know I'd better take my laser sighted Sig Sauer 9mm?"

[Council Scum]

I don't have an issue with how they remove offending illegals, don't have an issue with targeted arrests full stop, it's more their routine "check ins" of places of work and rounding up of working illegals that all feels a little "where are your papers?" and wearing masks and balaclavas is reinforcing that image.

It's one step away from checkpoints and national ID cards that nearly everyone here is dead against 

Easier to find someone when you know exactly where they are going to be isn't it?

Turn up at the house and they aren't there, you won't ever find them again.