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He had more tricks (when he weren't gifting it back to the opposition) but the 1 player in our Squad post Rice that is the most talented is Bowen.
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stubbo-admin wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 16:59He's the kind of player I always wish to have in the team. We look back to a player like Di Canio with rose tinted glasses, and forget he was a stroppy, away-day skipping, in and out genious.
- He scored some great goals
- He played some exquisite passes
- He performed some outrageous tricks and flicks
- He tackled hard
- His penalties were as close to a sure thing as you get
- He had some moments of shithousery that were a joy to behold
- ..and he played THAT pass to Bowen in Prague
Pre-betting trial, Paqueta was in tremendous form and worth the entrance money. He's still been a key component in a team that has been horrible to watch since then....we shouldn't forget he's lacked the runners and the central forward making the movements to feed the ball to, and worked under a succession of managers who were frankly anti-football.
Was he consistent? No. Was he ultimately a bit disappoint? Yes. But did he give us the kind of moments that only a player like that can, and are what makes football the emotional, enjoyable experience it can be? Absolutely.
I'll miss West ham having a player in the sqaud like Lucas Paqueta...the soert of player that other teams covet. That attracts players that just want to play with a player like that. The most talented player in the squad. We're a poorer setup for him not being with us anymore.
I agree with his worth pre betting trial. But don't think he was anything like Di-Canio nor do I think he will he be remembered for anything other than the pass to Bowen.
The most talented player in the squad? In terms of what he was capable of, perhaps. But in terms of his all round game, eg passing, then I wouldn't be so sure.
I certainly don't think we are poorer without him. If we are then it's certainly not discernible in the results when he isn't playing. My view is he has been liability for the last year or so and I am glad to see the back of him. Being the most capable player doesn't change that.
The most talented player in the squad? In terms of what he was capable of, perhaps. But in terms of his all round game, eg passing, then I wouldn't be so sure.
I certainly don't think we are poorer without him. If we are then it's certainly not discernible in the results when he isn't playing. My view is he has been liability for the last year or so and I am glad to see the back of him. Being the most capable player doesn't change that.
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- He scored some great goals
- He played some exquisite passes
- He performed some outrageous tricks and flicks
- He tackled hard
- His penalties were as close to a sure thing as you get
- He had some moments of shithousery that were a joy to behold
- ..and he played THAT pass to Bowen in Prague
Pre-betting trial, Paqueta was in tremendous form and worth the entrance money. He's still been a key component in a team that has been horrible to watch since then....we shouldn't forget he's lacked the runners and the central forward making the movements to feed the ball to, and worked under a succession of managers who were frankly anti-football.
Was he consistent? No. Was he ultimately a bit disappoint? Yes. But did he give us the kind of moments that only a player like that can, and are what makes football the emotional, enjoyable experience it can be? Absolutely.
I'll miss West ham having a player in the sqaud like Lucas Paqueta...the soert of player that other teams covet. That attracts players that just want to play with a player like that. The most talented player in the squad. We're a poorer setup for him not being with us anymore.
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He got way too much credit (he deserves some) for that pass. It was Bowen who did most of the work by signalling he was willing to run in to that gaping space in behind and then the rest was all on Bowen to score it under pressure from a defender and an on rushing Keeepr.
For the most part he has been a let down with an awful professionalism/attitude to jump ship when the shit hits the fan when all the Club ever did was stand by him unequivocally. We deserved better treatment than that and in my opinion he did get caught out being a greedy cսnt with his pals through the bookies.
For the most part he has been a let down with an awful professionalism/attitude to jump ship when the shit hits the fan when all the Club ever did was stand by him unequivocally. We deserved better treatment than that and in my opinion he did get caught out being a greedy cսnt with his pals through the bookies.
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Good riddance
It's always been all about him and now the rat deserts the fast sinking ship which is indicative of his character or lack of it.
He never gave a shit about West ham and would have pissed off to city long ago if it wasn't for the betting enquiry.
His deliberate sending off against Liverpool on a day we lost a true club legend and the epitome of everything Lucas isn't was disrespectful in the extreme and in my view he wasn't fit to wear the shirt after that..
Plenty of people make excuses for him and point to his undoubted talent being a positive but overall the risk to reward ratio when he played was to the teams detriment.
A mercenary and prima donna who got an easy ride compared to the stick others got for wanting to get away.
It's always been all about him and now the rat deserts the fast sinking ship which is indicative of his character or lack of it.
He never gave a shit about West ham and would have pissed off to city long ago if it wasn't for the betting enquiry.
His deliberate sending off against Liverpool on a day we lost a true club legend and the epitome of everything Lucas isn't was disrespectful in the extreme and in my view he wasn't fit to wear the shirt after that..
Plenty of people make excuses for him and point to his undoubted talent being a positive but overall the risk to reward ratio when he played was to the teams detriment.
A mercenary and prima donna who got an easy ride compared to the stick others got for wanting to get away.
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fraser wrote: ↑17 Jan 2026, 22:30wils wrote: ↑17 Jan 2026, 21:39fraser wrote: ↑17 Jan 2026, 20:46Oh come on that's just silly, we beat QPR because Fernandes wasn't playing after he was when we lost 3-0 to Wolves, we lost 3-0 to Wolves cause Paqueta wasn't playing... We hadn't won a league game without Paqueta before today... Anything can be twisted like that... They're all in it together and it isn't down to any individuals.He missed 5 games in 2025. We won 2 and only lost 1 of them.
He missed 2 games in 2026 so far, we won both of them.
Winning 4 and losing only 1 out of the 7 he hasn't played is significant for a team that has won so few games over the last year or so.
I know it's a simplistic take, but I have long held that his play (losing possession, diving all the time) undermines the team.He also missed the Wolves game easily our worst performance of the season... Selective facts... So easy to pick games.. We also didn't win other games he missed... It's utter nonsense.. Not just him but any single player...
Won't be long before you can say "we never got relegated the whole time Paqueta played for us, and now he's left were in The Championship"
I'm gutted it didn't work out. He's far too skilful for the iterations of West Ham he was part of and the safety net coward managers. I didn't even want to sell him to Manchester City for £85million plus Palmer. Now a shadow of the player he was then, half because of the Betway nonsense and half because we beat it out of him.
I'm gutted it didn't work out. He's far too skilful for the iterations of West Ham he was part of and the safety net coward managers. I didn't even want to sell him to Manchester City for £85million plus Palmer. Now a shadow of the player he was then, half because of the Betway nonsense and half because we beat it out of him.
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You always hoped and expected more from him especially with consistency. There was the odd moment of genius but really far too far and few between. He didn't become worth his place in the team by the end. You were always waiting for something special that so rarely actually came.
As I said on another thread, I think he checked out as soon as the Man City move fell apart and the FA came for him. To add there's no doubt the refs absolutely marked his card (no pun intended) and he got consistently treated very poorly by them.
As I said on another thread, I think he checked out as soon as the Man City move fell apart and the FA came for him. To add there's no doubt the refs absolutely marked his card (no pun intended) and he got consistently treated very poorly by them.
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Generally flattered to decieve and delivered very little end product.
Probably was at fault for as many goals as he scored.
his silly hair and silly dancing will not be missed.
Probably was at fault for as many goals as he scored.
his silly hair and silly dancing will not be missed.
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stubbo-admin wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 16:35
He also was consistently the player who could progress us into the final third.
Yep agree with that, he was decent between around half way and up to the final third but rarely did anything in the final third. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. Piss poor from a so called creative playmaker.
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Say what you like about Paqueta, but I'm much less confident in our ability to score a penalty now! Bowen got lucky the other day, and he's not nearly as good at pens as Lucas was.
He also was consistently the player who could progress us into the final third.
He also was consistently the player who could progress us into the final third.
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stubbo-admin wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 16:16 Club Statement:West Ham United can confirm that Lucas Paquetá has been given permission to undergo a medical and discuss personal terms with Brazilian club Flamengo, after a fee was agreed for his permanent transfer.
Lucas has made it clear that, for personal and family reasons, he wishes to return home to Brazil and make a fresh start after being cleared in July 2025 of FA misconduct charges that took two years to be resolved – a situation that caused him significant mental strain.
Despite the Club doing everything possible to persuade Lucas to stay, he has remained adamant that his wish is to leave. Therefore, the Head Coach and the Club have reluctantly agreed to accept his transfer request.
West Ham United would like to take this opportunity to thank our management, players, staff and loyal supporters for the unwavering and devoted support they have shown to Lucas throughout his time at the Club and, in particular, over the past two and a half years.
The Club will make no further comment at this time.
Quite an unusual press from the club, suppose they just want to get their side of the story over for fans to understand what happened, even though it was pretty much an open secret anyway.
I have no emotion either way about him leaving, mainly because I didn't rate the show pony. A couple of tricks on the half way line ain't of any use, he was clearly incapable of doing anything in the final third at this level, barely laid a glove on defenders aside from the vey odd fleeting moment. Glad we got good dough for him.
I have no emotion either way about him leaving, mainly because I didn't rate the show pony. A couple of tricks on the half way line ain't of any use, he was clearly incapable of doing anything in the final third at this level, barely laid a glove on defenders aside from the vey odd fleeting moment. Glad we got good dough for him.
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Agreed axeman ( he has failed at West Ham but better having him than no one ) assuming we are not going to replace him this window ( even a loan). Which at this moment looks to be whats gonna happen.
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Never lived up the hype / reputation. He failed in Italy as a number 10, then was successful with Lyon as a number 8. Rarely played that role at West Ham under successive managers and then subjected to a betting trial ( by media ) that lasted 2 years.
In a much better team he may achieve some consistency but for us he failed is the harsh truth. Not necessarily all of his own doing but nonetheless a failed stint overall imo.
In a much better team he may achieve some consistency but for us he failed is the harsh truth. Not necessarily all of his own doing but nonetheless a failed stint overall imo.
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Club Statement:
West Ham United can confirm that Lucas Paquetá has been given permission to undergo a medical and discuss personal terms with Brazilian club Flamengo, after a fee was agreed for his permanent transfer.
Lucas has made it clear that, for personal and family reasons, he wishes to return home to Brazil and make a fresh start after being cleared in July 2025 of FA misconduct charges that took two years to be resolved – a situation that caused him significant mental strain.
Despite the Club doing everything possible to persuade Lucas to stay, he has remained adamant that his wish is to leave. Therefore, the Head Coach and the Club have reluctantly agreed to accept his transfer request.
West Ham United would like to take this opportunity to thank our management, players, staff and loyal supporters for the unwavering and devoted support they have shown to Lucas throughout his time at the Club and, in particular, over the past two and a half years.
The Club will make no further comment at this time.
Re: Crapaqueta
wils wrote: ↑17 Jan 2026, 21:39fraser wrote: ↑17 Jan 2026, 20:46Oh come on that's just silly, we beat QPR because Fernandes wasn't playing after he was when we lost 3-0 to Wolves, we lost 3-0 to Wolves cause Paqueta wasn't playing... We hadn't won a league game without Paqueta before today... Anything can be twisted like that... They're all in it together and it isn't down to any individuals.He missed 5 games in 2025. We won 2 and only lost 1 of them.
He missed 2 games in 2026 so far, we won both of them.
Winning 4 and losing only 1 out of the 7 he hasn't played is significant for a team that has won so few games over the last year or so.
I know it's a simplistic take, but I have long held that his play (losing possession, diving all the time) undermines the team.
He also missed the Wolves game easily our worst performance of the season... Selective facts... So easy to pick games.. We also didn't win other games he missed... It's utter nonsense.. Not just him but any single player...
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Win rate with him playing in the team: 15%
Win rate without him playing in the team: 57%
That's statistically significant. A wide confidence interval because of the small sample size, but it's significant.
Win rate without him playing in the team: 57%
That's statistically significant. A wide confidence interval because of the small sample size, but it's significant.
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wils wrote: ↑17 Jan 2026, 21:39fraser wrote: ↑17 Jan 2026, 20:46Oh come on that's just silly, we beat QPR because Fernandes wasn't playing after he was when we lost 3-0 to Wolves, we lost 3-0 to Wolves cause Paqueta wasn't playing... We hadn't won a league game without Paqueta before today... Anything can be twisted like that... They're all in it together and it isn't down to any individuals.He missed 5 games in 2025. We won 2 and only lost 1 of them.
Not even statistically significant
He missed 2 games in 2026 so far, we won both of them.
Winning 4 and losing only 1 out of the 7 he hasn't played is significant for a team that has won so few games over the last year or so.
I know it's a simplistic take, but I have long held that his play (losing possession, diving all the time) undermines the team.
Not even statistically significant
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fraser wrote: ↑17 Jan 2026, 20:46Oh come on that's just silly, we beat QPR because Fernandes wasn't playing after he was when we lost 3-0 to Wolves, we lost 3-0 to Wolves cause Paqueta wasn't playing... We hadn't won a league game without Paqueta before today... Anything can be twisted like that... They're all in it together and it isn't down to any individuals.
He missed 5 games in 2025. We won 2 and only lost 1 of them.
He missed 2 games in 2026 so far, we won both of them.
Winning 4 and losing only 1 out of the 7 he hasn't played is significant for a team that has won so few games over the last year or so.
I know it's a simplistic take, but I have long held that his play (losing possession, diving all the time) undermines the team.
He missed 2 games in 2026 so far, we won both of them.
Winning 4 and losing only 1 out of the 7 he hasn't played is significant for a team that has won so few games over the last year or so.
I know it's a simplistic take, but I have long held that his play (losing possession, diving all the time) undermines the team.
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When he scored his penalty against Brighton, he celebrated like he'd won us the game single handedly...
bloke infront of me at the LS pointed out that when Welbeck scored his first penalty he ran into the goal, picked up the ball and jogged back to the centre spot.
It's all about him
bloke infront of me at the LS pointed out that when Welbeck scored his first penalty he ran into the goal, picked up the ball and jogged back to the centre spot.
It's all about him
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Oh come on that's just silly, we beat QPR because Fernandes wasn't playing after he was when we lost 3-0 to Wolves, we lost 3-0 to Wolves cause Paqueta wasn't playing... We hadn't won a league game without Paqueta before today... Anything can be twisted like that... They're all in it together and it isn't down to any individuals.