West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread

[muskie]

Odds slashed from 5/1 to 7/2.

Watch this space.

I think we're fucked.

[Iron Duke]

If we can at least stop that bellend from getting a haircut.

[Westham67]

Man U struggled to get two past Man Spurs. If we dont concede cheap goals, we can at least get a point on Tuesday, agaianst  Man U

[anotherbrickinthewall]

We will finish on 37 pts and 4th from bottom 

[Tomshardware]

Need to keep up the momentum and get something on Tuesday night.   

In league table for last 6 games played we are in 6th place.  Palace and spurs are in bottom 3.  

[Briano]

Spuds and happy clappers in the mix now, Leeds and Forest looking over their shoulder…good team spirit and some top class players so nothing to worry about

[eusebiovic]

After beating Spurs, I thought we still needed 7 wins or 6 plus a few draws to have a chance of staying up. At least 40 points.

I'm still not convinced that 38 points will be enough.

[Mad Ferret]

We're going to do it. Aren't we? 

 

Nope we’re down, so says Alf.

[Manuel]

There is hope. We have to go on a run now. If we do stay up its going to be razor tight. GD might be crucial and ours sucks, but we're at least close to Forest in that respect. Suspect it may come down to us having to beat Leeds by a larger margin than Forest beat Bournemouth in the last game, or some such scenario,

It's way too early too make precise predictions like that ffs, it's early Feb with 42 points still to play for!

Have you got next weeks lotto numbers?

[nychammer]

There is hope. We have to go on a run now. If we do stay up its going to be razor tight. GD might be crucial and ours sucks, but we're at least close to Forest in that respect. Suspect it may come down to us having to beat Leeds by a larger margin than Forest beat Bournemouth in the last game, or some such scenario,

[Westham67]

We're going to do it. Aren't we? 

 

YES, we are the omens are with us, and the god of the football is a Hammer

[honky cat]

We're going to do it. Aren't we? 
 

[the exile]

So Spurs have lost. They will be right in the mix if we win today, as will Palace if they lose tomorrow. 

Keep believing!

[zebthecat]

Thank you LUFC.

[El Scorchio]

Do we know if Todibo is in danger of more than a three match ban? You obviously can't do what he did, but we would have heard something by now if that was the case, right? Maybe because it was in the middle of a fight and not just out of the blue.

[zico]

The one thing Harry had which Nuno doesn't was man mnanagement and an ability to make players believe they are better than they are.  He probably got them to believe the bollocks he was telling them and he has made a career out of it to be fair to him.  He might have even given some confidence to Kilman! 

[El Scorchio]

What I liked was when asked which one player he managed would he put in the team right now to help us, with virtually no hesitation he said Paolo Di Canio. Completely agree.

Rio second choice- that's obvious too.

I enjoy his take on things. He will always be a dodgy backstabbing rat for what he did to Bonds, yet he's one voice in the game who makes the most sense. 

Agree- he's always good to listen to and will say what he thinks, despite being utterly unscrupulous. 

[El Scorchio]

In three of the four we probably deserved more than we got. That's what irks me. Had we got 'wolvsed' four times then you'd say we were well done and deserved it, but the two key decisions in the Forest game were pretty disgraceful and very cruel and decided the result (add Brighton away to that, although not part of the four) The Fulham game was just cruel on Scarles and all three were late late goals that you really can't recover from or answer to. Brighton at home was just stupid individual mistakes from a pair of idiot players and if not for either of those, (I am aware only one of the pens was converted) that could have been different,

But yes not picking up more points from those was very damaging although fortunes were incredibly cruel to us.

[Massive Attack]

What I liked was when asked which one player he managed would he put in the team right now to help us, with virtually no hesitation he said Paolo Di Canio. Completely agree.

Rio second choice- that's obvious too.

I enjoy his take on things. He will always be a dodgy backstabbing rat for what he did to Bonds, yet he's one voice in the game who makes the most sense. 

[DukeofDevo]

Bless you lads. While its mathematically possible to survive, fans can still hope I guess but for me its been over since xmas. Too weak in key areas of the squad before the season began and not addressed this window.  Burnley will see us as a chance for 3 points and beat us I think especially since Kilman and Mavropanos will start. 

Sullivan is only interested in managing the cash flow now to keep the listless ship, that is West Ham, afloat for the immediate term before we go down. 

Sullivan, when we go down, will officially become the worst owner in our 126 year history.  Screwed the club over financially and as a footballing force and we will be back to where we were in the 1950s, a second tier club.

 

 

I agree the 1 point from those possible 12 over the Christmas period will send us down! Played well in the games and deserved more, but we couldn’t defend as lead!  Losing to Villa as well after leading twice is not good enough. Even if we reach 40-45 points it’s really up to what the couple of teams do above us that counts just as much! If it does go to the last game of the season, and we’ve been there before, it’ll be our own fault!

[El Scorchio]

What I liked was when asked which one player he managed would he put in the team right now to help us, with virtually no hesitation he said Paolo Di Canio. Completely agree.

Rio second choice- that's obvious too.

[Massive Attack]

A good point he did make was the fact that we could and probably should have scored three or four when we were on top, as well as mentioning the miss late on.  Missing guilt edged chances is as bad as letting a few in.

If only we had a fox in the box who would bury such chances if on the pitch long enough getting in the right positions. Redknapp is many things but he does know what he's talking about in the game. He does that polite backhanded compliment but if you pay attention to his subtle opinions, he would often make the point that's needed like you say about not inviting unnecessary pressure.

[theaxeman]

It's all about opinion. I was listening to Pardew on Sunday and he felt Nuno made a couple of tactical errors.

[zico]

Saw the interview and felt Harry was playing devil's advocate a bit here.  Didn't seem to want to criticise Nuno or Kilman but he did subtly say that bringing another defender on naturally invites pressure.  A good point he did make was the fact that we could and probably should have scored three or four when we were on top, as well as mentioning the miss late on.  Missing guilt edged chances is as bad as letting a few in.

[Manuel]

Yep, agree with 'Arry on that.

Can't really blame Nuno. He set us up brilliantly in that first half, and even at the start of the 2nd, we were going for a 3rd.

And should've gone 3-2 up at the end before they went and won it.

How come you never get bored? Weird.

[Rossal]

To be fair, I was listening to Arry talking to Geo about the match and he said that from his experience as a manager, it didn't really matter what Nuno did or didn't do and it was Chelsea putting the pressure on us and driving us back regardless. Geo definitely tried to lead him into saying bringing Kilman on was a mistake, but he said it wouldn't have mattered whether he bought on a defender or an attacker. The tide had turned.

The issue with Nuno is he invites pressure to the shittest part of our team. The defence......especially one with Kilman in it.  The way to relieve pressure was to stop them coming at us, by getting stuck in again in the midfield with fresh legs and continuing to press high with fresh legs up top.  Now the fresh legs up top bit is a no go due to the shit squad planning but he could have put some legs in midfield to get us 10-15 yards higher. 

Maybe maybe not. Like I said in that particular match, Redknapp's opinion which despite his age I do consider more valid than ours, was that it wouldn't have mattered when he was asked what he would have done. And that's from a manager who was pretty attack minded. 

The real issue is having a squad so shit that it's Kilman who has to come on. 

I dont mind ol Arry but i disagree with that