Mubama

[Come On You Irons]

"Let's face it. He was awful when he came on last night. Supporters clamber for youngsters to be given a chance, but they must seize their opportunities and prove their worth when given game time. Mubama fluffed his lines last night. He's clearly not good enough. Looks like a League 1 level player to me."

[Pagey]

"There’s usually a ridiculous and deluded expectation that any youngster who gets a chance will hit the ground running. A striker especially, as it’s their job to score goals. If they don’t, it stands out. We’ve had Haller and Scamacca in recent years, who both didn’t work out for whatever reason, yet people think Mubama will come in, score goals and hit the ground running. It’s not going to happen. When he doesn’t play well or score, people get on his case, his confidence will drop and he won’t improve. It’s the Premier League. There needs to be some sort of realism involved along with patience. He’d probably be better off on loan, playing regular football."

[Jasnik]

I have never seen another team take so long to sub a player in. What the ferk does he need to tell them; they warm up to come on in the 60th minute they didn't get on the pitch till the 80th minute. Surely Nolan can show them his holiday snaps at half time.

[zico]

"You have to remember that before players enter the pitch Nolan is standing there with his bloody Ipad telling them what to do and where to go, so the players performance on the pitch without a doubt at the very least partially down to the management team. Personally I think football is a relatively simple game made complicated by some managers and coaches."

[Mad Dog]

Twoleftfeet. Because moyes is the root cause behind most of the problems?

[Eerie Descent]

"You're wondering why topics to do with the current West Ham team become about the manager who buys, picks and sets up the current West Ham team? You fucking plank."

[twoleftfeet]

Why does every thread on this site become anti Moyes? I’m surprised he hasn’t been blamed for the war in the Ukraine by the Tena ladies on here.

[zico]

Cottee and Defoe would struggle playing on their own in a Moyes team as a solo striker. It's not like Mubama has been missing loads of chances. He was chasing about early on but it must be disheartening when you look behind and see Soucek 30 yards away. I don't think he is the answer but at 19 or so you would have to be a bit spacial to be the focal point in this team at that age and I think he can improve but that's down to the coaching.

[simon.s]

Academy of Football is dying a death at our club. Players like Cottee would stand no chance with todays West Ham manager. That’s the word you are looking for…..

[RdUeSpSrEeLsLsed]

"Reading some of the comments about a kid who’s learning the game and is now labelled as shit amazes me. I thought it would be one or two but most posts are on a negative about a kid who’s gone from playing in an attacking youth set up to counter attack football and normally without Paq, Bowen and Kudus around him. I really hope he doesn’t read this shite. He needs a loan to build him up as a player and then see if he has it, not the way Moyes is doing it by throwing him to the Wolves. I thought he grew into the game a bit yesterday. Academy of Football is dying a death at our club. Players like Cottee would stand no chance with todays West Ham fan"

[daveyg]

"i didn't think he was that good yesterday and wished he did a Bowen and really chase the last defender down but when Bowen does it there are others a bit further up to help. However when he was chasing the 2 last defenders and keeper the rest of the team weren't even in their half. Even Bowen wasn't helping.I actually thought Bowen didn't help him in anyway and had a poor game after his goal. I've seen Mubama make a difference when he's played in the Europa or the Burnley game. People bang on about Ferguson being so much better but he has been supported in every way possible. Mubama and every other youth product inc Johnson who Moyes seems to take his anger out and know one else. until we get rid of the main problem in all this,MOYES, I can't see any youth players getting a decent chance. Marshall is a better prospect granted. I would like to see Marshall and Mubama alongside Bowen. I'm sure both would benefit."

[the exile]

"Being a central striker in a side managed by David Moyes must be one of the most difficult jobs on the planet, so I sympathise with Mubama. But sadly I have to agree with the majority on here - doesn't look like he's going to be good enough. I am more hopeful for Marshall. He has different qualities and I can see him developing into a goalscoring wide forward, similar in some ways to Bowen. He shouldn't be considered as an either/or option with Mubama - they are very different kinds of players. Given our problems with a wide left forward, I really think Marshall should be getting in and around the squad for that position, especially if Benny and/or Fornals are off. After all, at the very least I don't believe that he could be as bad as either of them."

[Lee Trundle]

"Part of me says, he's only 19. But then again, so is Evan Ferguson and he's miles behind him in terms of development."

[North Bank]

"Lee last season as an 18 year he bagged a goal a game in the 18 year old leaue and FA Youth Cup, in PL2 where the age is up to 21, he bagged 13 goals in 20 games and although 18 to 21 doesn't seem a chasm in age it is in their physique and development. I don't think we can judge him in an ultra defensive team, that has little idea when playing & creating in the last third"

[Manuel]

"No I agree, but I can't see him walking for free somehow, think both parties have put too much work in to have that conclusion. My hunch is he will sign and be loaned out, could be wrong though."

[Lee Trundle]

"We've offered him a contract. He's the one who turned us down. I'd love for him to come good, given how much I've called for him to play. I've just not seen anything from his limited appearances that suggest he will."

[Manuel]

"LT - I doubt he will be a youngster that we just say right son your contract is up so sorry but off you pop. He has progressed more than the average youngster does and could still be useful in and around the squad and could improve, then there is the possibility of a new manager arriving. As long as he's not too greedy I think we will make him an offer if we haven't already, which I think we have."

[Lee Trundle]

Was Mubama that prolific? https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/divin-mubama/leistungsdaten/spieler/670848/plus/0?saison=ges

[Lee Trundle]

Was Mubama that prolific? https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/divin-mubama/leistungsdaten/spieler/670848/plus/0?saison=ges

[North Bank]

"Rossai good post mate, anyone expecting an 18 year old striker playing for a side that struggles in the last third to rip it up, needs to look a bit deeper to where the issue lies. We've seen our top PL goalscorer struggle along with Scamacca & Haller, who are both excellent strikers, we've even made Danny Ings who has a decent scoring record at his previous club look like Iain Dowie. Mubama & Marshall are prolific at U21's for a pair of 18 years olds and coached correctly they could become top players, but I have very little confidence that our first team coaches have the skillset to bring the best out of them"

[Rossal]

"""His movement was not very good by any stretch. If anything, he’s actually a bit lazy. We all want him to be a success, but he won’t be. He doesn’t have the basics."" Must of been watching a diff game because don't agree with that at all"

[Lee Trundle]

"I've been one of the ones more vocal for Moyes to give him some more game time. If I'm brutally honest, then I've never been impressed with him when he has played. Isn't his contract up at the end of the season? He won't be loaned out, if that's the case, and he won't be getting a new contract from us the way things are going."

[Gaffer58]

"Does he need loaning out to the championship or league 1 to toughen him up, he can usually bully the defenders in the youths but against premiership defenders who in theory are the quickest and fully matured he doesn’t stand a lot of chance. Also as Moyes expects him to play as a defender 10 yards outside out box. So having a season where the game is more physical may help him."

[BillC79]

"I thought he did better in the second half, and actually was more lively when he went out to the right wing. Couple of nice touches, played a decent ball through to Bowen in the first half that almost led to a one on one, did a nice bit of skill that should have won a free kick in a dangerous area. Bit early to judge. What I didn't like though was his lack of challenging for the aerial duels. He didn't even jump half the time - a basic of football is that there should never be an unchallenged ball"

[Ron Eff]

"He’s not good enough, it doesn’t matter how you play him or who with. His movement was not very good by any stretch. If anything, he’s actually a bit lazy. We all want him to be a success, but he won’t be. He doesn’t have the basics."

[Rossal]

"He was poor yesterday but he was also a lamb to the slaughter the way we play His movement and runs are actually very good, the problem he had yesterday is that Fornals JWP and Soucek are incapable of passing the ball forward The majority of time we go backwards and sideways till it reaches the back 4.....they then get pressed rolled it back to Fab who punts it up field Now although he needed to be more physical up there......no 18 year old on the planet with his experience would have got much change out of 2 championship centre halves the way we were playing Yes he could have done better on the ball at times, but looked like ever time he got it he was trying to hard after having fuck off to live off for the first half hour he was on Too early to write him off, but if we play him please play some fucking out and out wingers and a no10 to give him some service"