‚ö? Bristol City v West Ham - Official Match Thread

[charleyfarley]

"V Ashton Gate Stadium 16th Jan 19:45 GMT NO VAR Darren England: (3) - 19 0 O‚ÄôLeary, Tanner, Vyner, Dickie, McCrorie, Williams, James ¬©, Pring, Gardner-Hickman, Mehmeti, Conway Subs: Bajic (GK), Knight-Lebel, Roberts, Knight, Nelson, Cornick, King, Bell, Wells Fabia?Ñski, Coufal, Mavropanos, Zouma ¬©, Cresswell, Emerson, Souƒçek, Ward-Prowse, Benrahma, Cornet, Ings Subs: Areola (GK), Anang (GK), Johnson, Ogbonna, Casey, Mubama, Marshall, Scarles Bristol City 16/5: Draw 13/5: West Ham 17/20"

[Nick QQQ]

"Not withstanding some of the awful performances last night, people keep missing the point in my opinion. Bristol City were a bunch of match fit, aggressive, committed players. We were a bunch of unfit, uncommitted, scared in the tackle players. Mainly because most of them haven't played a lot and still get played out of position. Ings being the exception who is just shot to bits."

[southbankbornnbred]

"And Danny Ings remains one of the worst players I've ever seen in a West Ham shirt. He can't play Moyesball as a lone striker. But even that aside, his legs have gone and doesn't have the mobility to be a threat in the top two divisions any more. He would need to join a team that plays two upfront - and can afford the luxury of him playing off a bigger target man. That's the only future for him. Otherwise he's as useful as a chocolate teapot."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Somebody on here bent my ear the other day when I suggested that Cornet - like Ings - just isn't up to it at the highest level. They'd wanged on about him not starting ahead of Fornals etc. Well, last night - against a bang average Championship side - was a chance for him to prove people wrong. He was woeful. Others were, too, so it wasn't just him. Lots to do to this squad to make it fully competitive more regularly than the few occasions we can put out our strongest XI."

[southbankbornnbred]

"We all know about the pros and cons of Moyes. But what last night reiterated beyond any question was just how poor some of our backup players are. Ings, Cornet, Benny (a forward line without a single goal between them this season) and several others last night. Mav looks nervy and like a mistake waiting to happen. The terrible backpass for the goal screwed him and his passing after that was dreadful. Somebody needs to get onto him about his composure etc. We are quite poor once we get a succession of injuries - and the Afcon stuff has heaped further problems on us. Even the kids don't look ready because we're not loaning them out properly and making sure they're battle hardened by the time they get an opportunity. I fear we've screwed the situation with Divin. Not sure if he's good enough, because we haven't made sure he's played a high-quality of lower league football and really learned the ropes - yet every now and then we ask him to step up to Premier League etc standard. There's still a lot of work to do at West Ham."

[Come On You Irons]

"Moyes basically signalled his intention to throw the game in his pre-match interview. Disagreed with the interviewer that it would be a shock if the team currently 14th in the Championship beat the team 6th in the Premier League. Disgraceful and almost a sackable offence in my opinion. He is a defeatist, dour cսnt. I'm sure Sullivan was pleased we lost though, so none of what us punters think matters."

[1964]

"I'm split on Moyes, frankly overall he's done OK but I don't like his style of football either, always on the back foot defending, slow to start games. Last night the players let us all down, not a lot he could do about it. True we should have better strength in the squad but who exactly is at fault for that? Sullivan must take some blame as well as Moyes. ... and why are we always dithering in transfer windows."

[Takashi Miike]

"he's so fucking useless, he set up with wingbacks yet still used two wingers ahead of the wingbacks. It's abysmal ?üòÇ"

[Takashi Miike]

"there was nothing wrong with alvarez or fornals. he could have also included earthy as another midfield option, there's no defending his bollocks"

[El Scorchio]

"I don’t want to overly defend him but I’m not sure what other players, given who was unavailable last night, he could have actually picked. Emerson at LB and Cresswell on the bench with Mubama starting is probably it."

[1964]

If you'd had taken: Moore Peters Hurst Charlton Ball Hunt out of the '66 team Styles got sent off for a stupid retalliation and Jack Charlton made a backpass leading to a goal Would we have won the World Cup?

[Takashi Miike]

"the FACTS are, he went on to a cup game against a mid table championship team with THREE goalkeepers, NINE defenders and just two options in midfield (one, of course, his pet potato salad). those defensive numbers are what international managers take to a world cup/euros. that jock cսnt wants that many available in a winnable game against inferior opposition"

[Manuel]

"There is, or use to be, a saying that the lower ranked sides only get one chance of beating their 'superiors' what would normally happen last night is that we would nick it 0-1 and restore normality, but no instead we could have all turned it off after 3 minutes as those cunts can't hit a barn door. I really did not expect a repeat of the first game last night, but shockingly that is what happened. How do you play 180 minutes against Bristol City and look completely shit over the whole piece while sitting 6th in the PL, it's a real head scratcher and surely Sullivan and Co are asking the same question. This has really left a nasty taste."

[1964]

"Takashi Miike 11:01 Wed Jan 17 A PRATT like me never defended anything, I stated a few facts."

[1964]

"Takashi Miike 11:01 Wed Jan 17 A PRATT like me never defended anything, I stated a few facts."

[Rossal]

"yet another game where we look shit, shit football, shit tactics, shit style of play, shit players in Ings Soucek and Cresswell playing yet again May can't come soon enough when we can fuck Moyes off......funny the talk of a new contract has died down pretty quickly eh! Can anyone see us going to Sheff Utd on sunday and winning??"

[Takashi Miike]

"""Even without half a team and without that stupid backpass and a decent ref and a DECENT MANAGER we'd be in the cup this morning."""

[Takashi Miike]

"1964 10:49 Wed Jan 17 he's been here long enough to have established a set pattern of play where players can drop in and out and be effective. there is no pattern of play other than relying on individual bits of skill against the run of play, where he's happy for the other team to have the ball. It's anti-football, yet prats like you still defend it"

[fraser]

"1964 - Brighton managed it the other week.. That's what happens when you have a well coached and managed squad... Nearly everyone of our players cost more than their entire squad, but better coaching won."

[1964]

"FFS, you can't have the heart and brain ripped out of the team and still be fluent and effective. We had arguably 6 of our best players out. Kudus Paqueta Alvarez Bowen Aguard Antonio Even without half a team and without that stupid backpass and a decent ref we'd be in the cup this morning."

[El Scorchio]

"That was a rather patchwork team and the difference was that shitty backpass, but this is absolutely chickens coming home to roost regarding squad management. Yes it’s unlucky to have all those players out at once but that was what it looked like. A bunch of demotivated players who rarely get on the pitch, going through the motions and whose hearts just aren’t in it. That’s down to one man."

[simon.s]

"Sorry I forgot, Sullivan does have another ambition which is putting as many seats as he can in to that shitcunt stadium……"

[simon.s]

"I’m not sure Moyes would have had any more desire to win this game even if there was no Europa League, that’s the worry. I just want a manager who will give it a go on all fronts, probably too much to ask for in the modern game, given Sullivan’s only real ambition is to stay in the premier league."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"I thought the ref was fine - only one team really up for it yesterday and it wasn’t us. Feel sorry for Emerson, who did put a shift in. Marshall I want to see more of. Moyes can fuck off and take Soucek with him - the idea of playing Cresswell as a full back in a cup tie says it all. The bloke is taking the fucking piss."

[fraser]

Last night was so predictable I expected nothing more.

[Manuel]

"I don't think JWP should get a pass, but we've seen it plenty of times down the years on here where some players, for whatever reason, are above criticism, and he seems to be the latest one? He's not shit, no, but for me I was expecting more, even his corners are crap and predicable, I must be missing what he brings to the party, as I don't see it, not often anyway, one good game in six doesn't cut it. Let's not forget that nobody else wanted him. Agree that Moyes is obsessed with Europe and he thinks that's the barometer he should be judged by, aside from the PL, it's been evident for a while now. What a cսnt."