‚ö? Aston Villa v West Ham - Official Match Thread

[charleyfarley]

". ........... V Villa Park 22nd Oct 16:30 GMT VAR Chris Kavanagh David Coote (2) - 7 0 Mart??nez, Cash, Konsa, Pau, Digne, Douglas Luiz, Kamara, McGinn ¬©, Zaniolo, Diaby, Watkins Subs: Olsen (GK), Diego Carlos, Chambers, Lenglet, Dendoncker, Tielemans, Kellyman, Bailey, Traor?© Areola, Coufal, Zouma ¬©, Aguerd, Emerson, ?Ålvarez, Souƒçek, Ward-Prowse, Bowen, Paquet?°, Antonio Subs: Fabia?Ñski (GK), Kehrer, Mavropanos, Ogbonna, Fornals, Benrahma, Kudus, Ings, Mubama Aston Villa 10/11: Draw 11/4: West Ham 12/5 ."

[Rossal]

"""We are a boring shithouse cսnt of a team, littered with superb players"" Made me chuckle, and its bang on to be honest. On paper there isnt much between us and Villa......except they have a good coach that picks the correct team and we have the dinosaur"

[LeroysBoots]

Hoping Steidten can influence Sullivan re the idiot Moyes Get rid at the end of the season

[Willtell]

I understand why Moyes tends to be loyal to long term players but even I was screaming for Soucek to be taken off at half time. Soucek is never an attacking midfielder and never the best defensive midfielder either but he was there because of loyalty. Antonio was dreadful as well and it looks as though time has caught up and passed him now. Why haven't we got a decent back up? Moyes decisions again and why so many want him fired which won't happen unless our league position gets a lot worse. The Europa game in Greece will see a lot of changes and I think how that goes for the reserves will make up Moyes mind for how we play the next PL game. Moyes can't continue to be loyal to Soucek with Kudus on the bench but what alternative to Antonio is there if Mubama never gets a run? Unfortunately these are problems of Moyes own makings.

[fraser]

"Yeah it's just one bad game. We've let in 12 goals in our last 5 league games, that's 2.4 goals a game. So we need to score more than that to win games, our two players furthest up the pitch were Soucek and Antonio.. That's unsustainable"

[Takashi Miike]

"do you watch the games, or just look at the league table? without areola this season, we would be bottom six. your right about the cups, as beating a pub team every fortnight will again keep the cսnt in his job"

[wd40]

Tim fucking Sherwood? That great manager oh let's all listen and learn . Spurs lovers

[wd40]

Villa a team on the up us a bad day at the office It happens its . .. football. Cup it is...again enjoy!

[Eerie Descent]

"People digging out Paqueta ffs The lad is being flogged out on the left wing, he's as far away from a winger as you can be, he's one of the best central midfielders in the league, it is a crime to football that this fucking manager is committing. I wasn't pissed off yesterday, because I've seen this coming, but I'm fucked off today because it's so clear what's going on. Gimps on here blinded by a couple of jammy result wasn't going to sway me, we are a boring shithouse cսnt of a team, littered with superb players. It's beyond the pale."

[Manuel]

"Not read the thread, but it feels like we have gone back a long way with this defeat and there are a few things coming home to roost. I had Tim Sherwood and Owen Hargreaves as pundits, and both of them said that Paqueta is being wasted and we don't need Soucek in the side. Moyes's stubbornness is infuriating. Sack the cսnt today."

[Takashi Miike]

"AOI, exactly that. he'll just tell them to be even more cautious and sitting deep"

[Any Old Iron]

"Moyes post match: “We weren’t as resolute as we have been and we need to be harder to play against……… You need to be ugly at the back if you have to be”. So there you have it, just negative ideas from Moyes. No talk of how much better we have to be going forward. He doesn’t even consider that. If ever a manager has run out of ideas it’s Moyes."

[fraser]

"I don't think either of those was soft, first he was unsighted and a deflection. Second was hit like a rocket, not many would have saved it."

[Full Claret Jacket]

"Areola showed exactly why he isn't playing for a Champions League club today. Pulls off a great save from Luiz and then lets in 2 soft ones. Defensive shambles today. Missed headers, Zouma too slow. The midfeld was completely outplayed. No idea what Paqueta was doing. Shocking performance. Looked like he couldn't be bothered. Putting Ward Prowse deeper seems to have affected his game. As for Antonio up front. How long do we have to put up with this. He is shot. Might be a useful sub for 15mins but Antonio just doesn't contribute enough. When I see the movement, pace and instinct of strikers at other clubs it only amplifies the poor decision to stick with him. Moyes football just bores me to death. A lot of money spent on some very talented players who look like they have forgotten their strengths."

[Full Claret Jacket]

"Areola showed exactly why he isn't playing for a Champions League club today. Pulls off a great save from Luiz and then lets in 2 soft ones. Defensive shambles today. Missed headers, Zouma too slow. The midfeld was completely outplayed. No idea what Paqueta was doing. Shocking performance. Looked like he couldn't be bothered. Putting Ward Prowse deeper seems to have affected his game. As for Antonio up front. How long do we have to put up with this. He is shot. Might be a useful sub for 15mins but Antonio just doesn't contribute enough. When I see the movement, pace and instinct of strikers at other clubs it only amplifies the poor decision to stick with him. Moyes football just bores me to death. A lot of money spent on some very talented players who look like they have forgotten their strengths."

[Takashi Miike]

"spot on, I can see the players are a!ready bored of his shit. alvarez in particular. why are we still relying on a middle aged converted winger as our only forward? he played against newcastle after not training all week, then picks him again after another trip to jamaica or wherever the fuck they were playing. I don't give a shi t what the new dressing room spokesman says about how much they love moyes. they clearly aren't enjoying this prehistoric style of football"

[Hammer and Pickle]

"I thought Paqueta‚Äôs response to the Moyes tactics today was spot on. Yes he did look like he was having a kick around on the beach, and why not - his manager is a cսnt."

[alfs barnet]

Antonio's first half performance was abysmal. Paqueta thought he was having a kick around on the beach in Brazil - casual and selfish. Massive defensive errors throughout the game. Villa do look good but we made them look so much better than they actually are. If we don't bounce back from this we can easily find ourselves being grateful for how shit the bottom 5 are this season. 15th to 6th place is going to be very tight this year.

[Sydney_Iron]

"Well, that was a pile of dog shit wasn't it?"

[Vexed]

Fucking sick of this shit Moyes serves up. Properly fucking sick of it. This squad is better than that today but what does he say to them before the game and at half time? What the fuck was he waiting for to get Kudus on? What the fuck was Antonio doing? One of the worst performances I've seen from a West ham player that today from him. Dire. If we give Moyes another contract I think I'm done. Can't fucking stand him.

[Texas Iron]

Moyes is...has been and will continue to be the problem... For all the reasons statrd on here... 500million spent...lucky to finish in the top 12... Dinosaur Moyes...NO NEW CONTRACT

[Stowie.40]

"Deservedly well beat and we only made a game of it for a bit cos of a ridiculously lucky goal. They are a good side, make no bones about it they will be having a very good season, especially with that home form and they have a top draw manager. They took the piss out of our midfield, it was JWP, Soucek & Alvarez worse games this season, couldn‚Äôt get near em. Having said that, how the fuck Moyes didn‚Äôt change it at half time beggars belief, I mean Antonio put in a performance on par that even Mike Newell it Neil Mellor would be ashamed off. Fucking embarrassing that cսnt is still starting for us."

[Helmut Shown]

"We carved out a lot of openings but the passing was bloody awful all day and it has been a feature of our game for some time. Antonio and Souchek were the worst offenders but that does not absolve the rest of them. I think we got more cover for the right back when Mavropanos played, although that was in the Europa league. When Coufal gets up the field in support of Bowen the cover from Souchek and Zouma is too slow."

[threesixty]

"The other thing that is bugging me is that he’s not using games to get youth players ready for the future. It feels like he’s waiting for 4 players to all break their legs in one game to give Mubama a start, or at least some meaningful minutes. All this, “ you’ve got to take your opportunity crap”. You don’t give any fucking opportunities! You need to plan how you seed these youth players in. You cant keep saying, they’re not good enough, you’re not making them good enough! And if your Mubama you must be thinking, he’s not even starting kudus who’s probably better in training than ings, Antonio etc.. so you must be thinking, what do I have to do? Must be heartbreaking to know you’re not in a meritocracy. The reason Rice is a 100m player is that he got minutes on the pitch cos we didn’t have anyone else. If Moyes had a senior player in that position there would be no Declan rice as we know it. Plan to make these kids great. Don’t just rely on chance."

[fraser]

"Diaby looked good for them signed this season, has nobody told Emery he's not supposed to play him yet"

[daveyg]

"Any old. It doesn't matter if we had just scored the subs should have still been made. Use your subs,Yesterday Arsenal just scored but brought on Harvetz and Trossard. Moyes had Kudus again waiting there to come on. Again it took ages for him to come on. We're losing 3-1 without looking to get back into it. Yet no furtther subs until 86th minute and then another goal for Villa. Why not for the umpteenth time bring on Mubama. He might not be the top top striker we require but he would have been better than what was on the pitch after 76 mins. But we're not going to get that under Moyes. Ings will start on Thursday for mo reason. It's beyond a joke and yet the likes of Joyo and that cretin Two will defend Moyes."