"So, we're not going to even talk about the outrageous covid inquiry Then?"

[chim chim cha boo]

"You utter cunts. They actually WANTED us to die. Utterly shocking, the biggest news probably EVER and you try and swerve it, you pea-brained gonks?"

[Hammer and Pickle]

Who’s Dr Ink Kenneth?

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

"'https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus#tab=tab_1 This is the current WHO blurb. The thesis is that at the time, it was all a scare and the government’s response was OTT. I don’t agree as I believe the coronavirus posed a real threat that was eventually addressed.' 'ark at Dr Ink."

[riosleftsock]

"Zeb They did have one, years ago I had to supply a copy of it to a client and help them to produce a BCP strategy around it (it was too unwieldy and couldn't be implemented at that level). They had previously produced plans for avian and swine flu as well. I also got the original covid early on and was in much the same state, it took me a good 6 or 7 months to fully recover."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"I’m not wrong you’re having another fit of frustrated rage though am I, Michael."

[Takashi Miike]

your beliefs have proven to be wrong time after time. never on the right side of any subject. It's why you need to do the site a favour and fuck off

[Takashi Miike]

your beliefs have proven to be wrong time after time. never on the right side of any subject. It's why you need to do the site a favour and fuck off

[zebthecat]

"""Perhaps they could have just followed the original government pandemic response plan"" That was the problem, they didn't really have one. Operation Cygus was carried out to come with that plan but it was never implemented and what was there (the PPE stocks) was unusable. Perfectly well young people were killed during the initial alpha wave. imfamously a couple of anti-vax campaigers. I know 2 who died and one poor bugger who lost a lung. Yes I know it is only an anecdote but quite a lot of people did actually die of it. I had alpha in mid-March 2020 and it was not fun at all. I was very close to calling an ambulance a couple of times as my asthma inhaler wasn't touching it and I could barely breathe. The relief when I woke up and could suddenly breathe properly was wonderful. Omicron was just really really snotty cold in comparison. It amazing just how much snot the human head can hold."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus#tab=tab_1 This is the current WHO blurb. The thesis is that at the time, it was all a scare and the government’s response was OTT. I don’t agree as I believe the coronavirus posed a real threat that was eventually addressed."

[riosleftsock]

"""What level of Covid response would you have considered adequate, Kenneth?"" Probably the same response we have for a bad flu season, which is what this turned out to be. Perhaps some additional advice to shelter for the elderly and vulnerable. Perhaps they could have just followed the original government pandemic response plan instead of tearing it up and listening to modelling from a completely discredited idiot at Imperial. Perhaps we could have followed Sweden's model?"

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Just try to focus here, Michael. It’s a fair question."

[Takashi Miike]

another thread hijacked by the three mongs of the apocalypse. oxygen thieving cunts

[Hammer and Pickle]

"OK, Kenneth. What level of Covid response would you have considered adequate, Kenneth? I’m guessing something along the lines of it all being the EU’s fault right? You’d get behind that, wouldn’t you."

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

‘You think lock down was disruptive?? That would be a minor compared to seeing people Dropping like flies around you. Society would never have been able to function. People would have just stayed at home anyway.’ There wasn’t people dropping like flies though. Society would have gone on and only those in fear would have stayed at home. No-one I know that ignored the restrictions suffered any consequences. They went to work as normal. They had pub lock ins.

[Hammer and Pickle]

Crumbs Fat Ron - the meat pie is never going to succumb to your advances at this rate.

[threesixty]

"Mike “ That's a bit too much like playing God for my liking and the nation would have been better served by advising the vulnerable to self-isolate as much as possible and the rest of society” As I said before, it was pretty hard early doors to tell exactly who was more vulnerable because there were examples of people in their twenties and thirties dying after exposure. People with no underlying illnesses. Yes they were fewer than the general “at risk” people but they were enough for any normal Person to say “fuck I don’t think I need this one “. Also, I don’t think people have an idea of how many people in the western world have some sort of underlying condition. There are millions of diabetics, high blood pressure etc people Out there .. a lot undiagnosed. So the potentially vulnerable list was quite high. Not to mention the people that need to care for the elderly and at risk etc It’s just not as simple as shut them all away. Look how many died in the care homes… Someone most have brought it in right? I just think it’s all a bit revisionist now."

[Kaiser Zoso]

Mong doesn’t want any discussion of this now because his pathetic political bias overrides everything else and he can’t bear any criticism But he was up front with the other cunts self righteously pointing the finger at the time Like a few others on here

[goose]

Karen how’d do reckon you’d have got on during WW2? Run away as soon as they got your pronouns wrong?

[threesixty]

"What is it that Tyson said.. everyone’s got a plan till they get punched in the mouth right? The idea that psychologicallly any of you could deal with seeing 10% deaths around you is utterly bonkers. We aren’t robots ffs! There would be anarchy. You think lock down was disruptive?? That would be a minor compared to seeing people Dropping like flies around you. Society would never have been able to function. People would have just stayed at home anyway. I don’t think people think this stuff through. As someone said, it’s just survivor bias. Like when Kanye was saying oh.. slavery was a choice. Very easy thing to say when you’re not getting whipped and amputated! Like wise it’s pretty easy for people to imagine themselves just handling it all like they’re some ww2 hero’s… nah you’d be mentally fucked. We did the right thing but did it worse than we could have done because we had stupid lying bastards in charge. That’s all. The lesson from all this is you can only afford populism when the weathers good…"

[Mike Oxsaw]

"threesixty 7:28 Wed Nov 22 ""Even if 99% survived it's the unpredictability of that 1% is the main issue."" As it is with any probability issue. Simply take a group of, say fans at a football stadium. Over the course of a season you can be certain that a certain percentage of them won't live to see the final home game, but, unless you have detailed medical hostory of each, there is no way of knowing which individual fans will not be alive at the final final whistle. And even then, that doesn't take into account death or injury from accidents or criminal activity. From a probability perspective, the best that can be said of the vaccine - if it had any viable efficacy - is that it would not affect the overall probability of death amongst the whole group, but could possibly save some at the cost of others dying. That's a bit too much like playing God for my liking and the nation would have been better served by advising the vulnerable to self-isolate as much as possible and the rest of society offering whatever support needed to enable that quarantine to exist in parallel with the majority going about their business as usual. At worse, additional precautions could be adopted after discussion with the vulnerable involved and the level of precautions mutually agreed. Once it was identified as being spread by an airborne carrier, locking people away in a sealed room/home with each other was the height of stupidity. Shops, pubs, bars & restaurants would be free to implement their own precautions, as could other business establishments, such as a WFH rota, or even staggered business hours to reduce the overcrowding on public transport. for those who were affected."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Nope. Wheeling out the straw man that it wasn’t the fucking apocalypse isn’t going to make the government’s often laughable lapses, especially in the pre-vaccine staged the pandemic, any less glaring."

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

‘just because it didn't end up being worse with many more dead does not mean that couldn't have happened.’ Actually it does. It was only as deadly as it was. There is no alternate reality to what happened.

[BRANDED]

In that example 90% survive. Chris Whitty said as much yesterday. When the virus is in the population you can just try and manage it no matter what. Many people had already retreated from society before the healthy were told to stay at home. When omicron came alone it was so infectious they just held their hands up.

[Capitol Man]

I do wonder how a lot of you would have coped with some of the other dislocations people have had in their lives in the generation before us. A world was with little chat groups online claiming it's not really happening or that Hitler isn't so bad. Maybe that Churchill was on the take? And yes we've got on with it as we did through the pandemic and putting things back on track after it ends. It's survivor bias at play just because it didn't end up being worse with many more dead does not mean that couldn't have happened.

[BRANDED]

If 10% had died ( 800 million) what would we have done? Got on with it. Most people in charge know this.

[Capitol Man]

"Was the overriding policy perfect, no Should the reaction to the next pandemic be the same, probably not, seems to be the point of this inquiry - to recommend what we could do better. I know for a lot of you it's easier to believe some sort of conspiracy that to deal with the fact there were real legitimate risks here and something that was potentialy beyond human control - but that's where we were. But so much of the criticism we see is such utter nonsense. Never progressing beyond a child's understanding of vaccinations and the calculations that go into their approval, pretending there was some sort of massive global control agenda, being upset that their gym was closed or whatever. A lot was lost during the pandemic, but the route of basically ignoring it that some of you seem to have want to have taking wasn't a decent option. What has happened is that a terrible event in history has been used by extremists to push a political agenda and many of you are too stupid to see that pretty straightforward concept and would rather be drawn into some massive conspiratorial agenda involving Bill Gates or Anthony Fauci or whoever you want the bogeyman to be. It is funny to see how so many of you just want to be a whiny victim in all this though."