Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[southbankbornnbred]

"Big win on Saturday - and thank feck for it. We desperately needed those three points, ahead of the three upcoming league fixtures. But it changes very little. We won, great. I'm West Ham and want us to win every game. But we beat a terrible side - possibly the only side in the division currently worse than us. It's like being voted the most handsome man in the burns unit. Let's see where we, and Moyes, are after the next three games. He still needs to improve massively. But it's a start."

[Rossal]

"A big 3 points on sat but not enough for me to suggest we've turned a corner. We got the set up wrong for me, they outnumbered us in the middle and its only because they are dogshit they didnt capitalise on it. Everyone saying how good the 3 centre backs were (they were excellent) but they shouldnt of had so much to do against the worst team in the league at home! Our Feb and March fixtures are horrible, I dont think Moyes is the man to get results out of them, come out of next 2 months bad and we are scrapping for the final 10 games or so The other worry is if we fail to get Dyche now and Everton or Leicester snap him up then who do we get when we finally pull the trigger with Moyes? Need to act now before we're left with no one to pick from"

[master]

Good coaches encourage passing and moving off the ball. That leads to this kind of entertainment. https://twitter.com/stopthatfooty/status/1617176885905031169?s=20&t=MR01Utkt0WZr75vMU3RNYA

[Willtell]

"""no, 'hysterical' is saying julian's main quality was being a thug"" ------------------------------------------------- Except you made that up Mike. Surface never said it was his main quality. Dicks was a thug and like Surface I enjoyed seeing him do it because he was ours and had passion for WH. He had a lot of positive things about him but he could be a thug that could never last a game in this era."

[marty feldman]

Even 2 years ago when we finished 6th under Moyes our possession stats were utter crap . There's a hell of a lot of revisionist nonsense being spouted . While I fully expect us to stay up comfortably in the end even under Moyes . if there's one manager who could get us relegated it's him . His Everton teams were terrible to watch as well . The bloke is completely incapable of change and that's all there is to it .

[Sir Alf]

"The game has progressed / changed and to be successful or at least avoid struggling you need players that are technically excellent. Pace and pressing is mandatory now to be able to compete and sometimes beat the best teams and also compete with most teams. We lack pace and recruitment did not address this fundamental flaw with the exception of Aguerd and Cornet. But tactics and approach need to change but haven't. The formation is just the same and the players selected have suited what used to work. Loyalty to those players is perhaps a sign of an insecure Moyes who has been picking blokes that will not question what he's doing based on the fact that they will then get selected ? The victory over Everton was very welcome but the underlying problems remain imho. Nevin and Moyes still employ the counter attacking philosophy. It is flawed now. Only having 30 odd percent possession against most teams will not get us enough points Imo. I watch every other team. The goalkeeper is key to keeping the ball and involved in the passing movements. We don't do that. Fab is not comfortable , quick or agile enough. Soucek, Coufal and Antonio not technically good enough to start games imo. We also still end up just hoofing it long from the back and turning over possession. We don't try to play ourselves out and beat the high press. Why? We don't have the players to do it and Moyes doesnt generally select the players that are better suited to do it. The team is not coached to do it either. The recruitment failed to address the chronic lack of pace and movement. Moyes and Nevin don't even see it I'm sure. The selection of Soucek, Cresswell and the recruitment are testament to that. Our problems are far from over. There will be no miraculous turnaround. We have to hope we have enough quality players to get us the 40+ points we need in spite of the management , coaching etc"

[Takashi Miike]

"no, 'hysterical' is saying julian's main quality was being a thug"

[swindon hammer]

"Dicksy was a great player who's rightly a West Ham legend. That being said he should have had a better and more distinguished career than he did and part of that was his own doing with his lack of discipline at times and probably not looking after himself in terms of his diet etc. As far as the Liverpool team of the 80s they were like a machine. Sure they could sometimes be ugly and scrap out the 1 goal wins away from home when they needed to but they put many teams to the sword with ease (including us) when they hit top gear. I don't think you could ever say the likes of Rush, Dalglish, Molby, Whelan, Barnes, Beardsley, Houghton, Aldridge etc weren't exciting to watch."

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"Miike You need to take a deep breath and read other people's posts before you lauch into you usual hysetical response. As I quite clearly stated, I loved Dicks kicking the shit out of opposition wingers. I'm puzzled how you missed that. I don't really buy your, 'he only did it to bullies' nonsense, but there you go, who am I to shatter your dreams? I also loved Billy Bonds doing it. FLS, too. They could both play a bit, mind."

[Takashi Miike]

"julian was regularly doing the job of two men in that side back then, not just a LB but also a LW. ahead of his time, and now teams need to insert an extra CB in to the side to accommodate such a player, yet all you take away from his years of great service is he was a bit nasty to some wingers. you must have also hated billy bonds, as most of the run ins julian had were with the opposition's cunts/bullies"

[goose]

Technically Dicks was a fantastic player.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"Miike I'll always defend loyal and distinguished West Ham players, even if , through no fault of there own, they have played on as first choice for a year too long. You should probably do the same, instead of acting the cսnt. IIRC Liverpool were a superbly fit side who used to wear teams down and often bang in two or three goals in the last 15 minutes against teams who were on their knees. Hugely effective, good football in my book, but not what I think most people on here mean when they are banging on about 'entertaining'. But whatever, you really can't have it both ways. You can't idolise 'Julian' and then cry that the football isn't pure enough for you. I liked having Dicks in the team. He was a massive thug who regularly booted opposition wingers into touch. I enjoy that a lot. But Ashley Cole, he wasn't."

[Takashi Miike]

"cried? no, I just corrected your football illiteracy regarding dicks. what's funny is you defended cresswell earlier this season, who even at his best wouldn't be fit to lace julian's boots. only an idiot would say that late 70s/80s liverpool team were shit, and even after me mentioning the seven seasons they scored two goals a game, you still stand by it. an absolute fucking bellend"

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Miike I don't think I need lessons on attractive football from a bloke who nearly cried when I suggested Julian Dicks was a bit over-rated.

[Takashi Miike]

"""As well as the aforementioned 1 nil to the Arsenal, we've had Dirty Leeds, the hugely successful Liverpool of the 80s, Blackburn, Leicester, all of whom have played shit football. "" I think Liverpool had 80+ goal seasons seven times during that period, absolutely clueless"

[scouse kid]

I would like too see players picked on form A positive mindset from the manager rather than turtling up at every opportunity and see our youths get an opportunity to progress into the first team oh and see players develop with good coaching and leadership

[goose]

Nobody is demanding anything. Given the resources available our football is way off what I'd say is acceptable. Winning games & playing decent stuff usually go hand in hand.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"goose Don't ask me, mate, I'm a self-confessed philistine. Ask someone who's droning on about wanting to be 'entertained' and demanding 'enjoyment'."

[goose]

What's good football in your book then?

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"goose I'd give my right arm for a season like that, too. Or Leicester's. It doesn't make them players of 'good football' though. Of course, 'good football' is entirely different from good football (winning football), which is what both Blackburn and Leicester did play."

[Westside]

"A two goals a game season average for a team, is a rarity. In the last 5 years, in the Premier League only an average of two clubs per season, have averaged 2 goals a game, or more, for the season."

[goose]

You brought them up as shit football. Football doesn't have to be tonnes of passes. They played with proper wingers and got tonnes of crosses in for shearer & Sutton. They won the league and scored 80 goals. I'd give a left bollock for a season like that.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"It was you that brought up goals per game, not me. Apart from 1-0 to the Arsenal, Blackburn's was just about the worst goals goal-scoring ratio in PL history. Leicester, unsurprisingly, were worst and Chelsea and Man U got close a couple of times each. Blackburn, Shearer and Sutton included, were a bunch of cloggers"

[BRANDED]

Few

[BRANDED]

"Yeah? That bloke with the hairband went to Man City for £100,000,000 and hardly plays. What we are playing against is highly organised teams of broadly equal ability and a fee way beyond us."