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Moyes Out ( Released )
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Moyes Out ( Released )
"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"
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"Bring in a striker, while needed, will not be enough solve the problems IMO. Moyes showed today that he will stick with his same, failing tactical approach. He picked the players for it. Yesterdays men like Moyes. Soucek touched the ball less than 10 times according to one report? First game I gave seen in a long while. Is that true ? Soucek also had 65% pass accuracy rating? So 6 out of 9 passes ok? All players nowadays hit upper 80s and low 90 percent. Anyway, all went as predicted which gives no satisfaction. It jut beggars belief. I suspected he would pick Soucek and Antonio but Cresswell too !! Oggy I understand because of the Dawson situation but all this confirmed what we know. He has no idea or know hoe to play any other way. That's it in a nutshell. Anyone with a shred of sense and self protection would try some wholesale changes just to show fans he is trying to find a different way to win football matches. He isn't and doesn't know any other way. It's over, he's done. Everyone with eyes and a brain knows this. Shame our illustrious owner doesn't. The ineptitude at all levels is embarassing. We will be relegated with a manager change asap. It's inevitable:"
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Genuinely think they're letting it get so shit that they can justify getting the walrus in.
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"Miike Westside is a good lad and well appraised, I've had plenty of exchanges on the subject with him and can tell you what he will say The sale to the Czech is a purchase option at a predetermined price, irrespective of circumstance Meaning, the obligation is purely Sullivan's, to sell if that option is exercised There is no obligation to buy but if he does the price is fixed The element that we have not established is how long that option extends to, it clearly will have limitation Now were we to be relegated the probability of that option being taken logically reduces - meaning Sullivan has lost money For my part, not Westside's, I could see a situation post relegation where the Czech offers a new deal, at a reduced price but I have obviously not seen the existing contract so can't comment upon any restrictions that may or may not exist to do so But either way, relegation can't do anything but harm Sullivan's return potential. That in it's own right may be the deciding Moyes factor. The Czech already has a serious investment and retains clear leverage, if I were he I would be pulling that to oust Moyes sharp order"
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"I hope westside can explain how sullivan can allow us to be relegated and not lose any money. if, as expected, he's still intending to sell in the next few months - how can an inevitable relations not harm his investment? it's beyond bizarre what he and the other board members are doing"
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"goose 1:29 Sun Jan 15 'You think a throwaway comment about football is ""òdisturbed'?' So, you admit your post about wanted us to suffer 'relegation after relegation' was complete drivel, then. Fair enough."
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"I just don't get the position of Kretinzky and Sullivan. Surely Kretinzky wants to buy a PL club and would have made some kind of deal where if they club goes down his shareholding decreases or whatever, in any case it would be beneficial to own a championship club especially after what he has put into the club. Its in neither of their interests to see us relegated surely Sullivan would lose interested parties, massive TV revenues etc so the sleep walk to relegation just doesn't seem to be logical in the slightest. If there was no money spent and it was all done on the cheap again then you would have some kind of idea of what is going on. Yet an outlay of 170 million to yield relegation is beyond belief. Sacking Moyes now costs what 5 million tops. Relegation would cost 100 million and the loss of any real decent deal for Rice. Its a fucking nightmare all over again and after 2 years of us finally looking like we had got out act together Sullivan decides to put us back in our box. cսnt!!"
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"I agree. But I think the situation is worse: I think we'll be relegated if we don't sack him this week. The Everton game is so important: needs to be a new manager to try to get the win and, even if he doesn't, to at least give the team some coherence before that string oof much tougher games. If we go pointless in the next four games, which is a strong possibility, then we will go down. And it will turn very ugly."
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"If West Ham don't sack Moyes before the Everton game then we are no longer a serious football club that genuinely aspires to be in the Premier League. The new manager (it IS inevitable we will have one this season) needs to be given the game against Everton to try to gain a vital ""bounce""ù win before the string of games against Newcastle, Spurs and Chelsea. It's quite possible that, should we lose to Everton, at least some potential managers will not be interested in the job because their opening games will be Newcastle, Spurs and Chelsea - after which we could be staring relegation in the face by March. Who wants the job then? They might themselves be out by June - or on a lot less money."
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"Unfortunately it's looking increasingly like we are stuck with him until the end of the season. It's painfully reminiscent of the Grant season and we know what happened there. There are a number of people on here telling us we are not going to be relegated just like they did in the Grant season. What their reasoning for this is beyond me. Do they have a crystal ball or as I suspect is it just blind faith. Supporting your team through thick and thin is something we all know about here, however, sometimes it requires people to stand up for what is right. It's right for us to now let the club know that Moyes is not right for our club."
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It's becoming increasingly apparent that Aguerd apart the job lot of players fostered on Moyes in the last week's of the transfer windows were clearly not his preferences. So he is basically starting that these are not my players so is playing a game of who blinks first with our diminutive chairman probably hoping for his compensation payoff. The trouble is Sully is even more pig headed and stubborn than Moyes and would happily cut his own knob off to spite his ballbag as long as he believes somebody didn't get one over him. It's shocking Moyes wasn't shown the door when the WC started and now it's looking as desperate as any other time we've been in danger of relegation.
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Goose That isn't what you said mate. You said you hope West Ham suffer relegation after relegation until Sullivan loses every penny. That's fucking disturbed. Which is why you are now desperately trying to draw attention away from what you actually posted.
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He sets up ultra defensive. He leaves a man on his own up front who has no influence whatsoever on the game. Twenty minutes from time he decides to send a couple of attackers on. Too late again. You would have thought the thick twat would have learned a lesson by now. If they are going to sack him it will be after tge Tuesday board meeting. Wishful thinking?
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"goose 12:23 Sun Jan 15 Yeah, mate. Everyone agrees with that. The stuff you said about being happy for the club to suffer relegation after relegation, not so much."
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"If they were going to fire him it would have been tonight, so I'm very afraid that the haggis munching twat will still be with us next Saturday. Sullivan must have a death wish."
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"SurfaceAgentX2Zero 11:19 Sat Jan 14 Re: Moyes Out Nah fuck Sullivan. The only reason he's here is money, he's either too stupid or too tight to make obvious decisions so fuck him. I'd happily see him penniless."
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"Apart from the club colours I can't think what bit of the West Ham we love Sullivan has retained""¶."
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"I really don't think Moyes is looking for the sack. His approach has just hit a brick wall and he doesn't have the nous to get out of it or try something different. It's dismal, and has been for ages. The paralysis from the board is shocking, and we're in danger of another Avram Grant situation, which they vowed would never happen again."
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"simon s Given his previous behaviour, you might well be right about Sullivan. However, it does beggar belief that any kind of businessman would risk spunking away hundreds of millions of pounds of PL income and losses on the transfer values of that £180m lot for the sake of saving a couple of million pounds pay-off."