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Moyes Out ( Released )
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Moyes Out ( Released )
"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"
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"solated hammer 11:29 Wed Dec 14 You can't use that golden generation from the academy as an example as they weren't transferred in. And you say Redknapp didn't do too bad in the transfer market. That's a big call. Yes, he signed some excellent players but for every decent player he signed there were several others that were dross. I get transfers are hard and risky and managers are looking for the next big thing on a cheap so you have to take risks. But, for me, Redknapp took punts, some paid off hugely, many others never. If you want to see for yourself check this link and if you put it in date order you can see the players he signed for every club he managed in date order. It actually makes fun reading as some of the names that popped up I'd long forgotten. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/harry-redknapp/spielertransfers/trainer/448 I think also what needs to be said is that we are talking more about a playing style and a transfer strategy. Buying players that suit a style. Redknapp never did that. He bought players that were available and hoped they would do a job."
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"Russ of the BML I have to disagree with you there. I will give Harry Redknapp his dues, he didn't do too bad in the transfer market, and at the time our academy players were second to none. We really did have a golden generation at our finger tips, we bought some decent players in. The late 90's was a good time to be a Hammer. But Terry Brown ruined it. Selling Rio was the start. Harry said, sell Rio over my dead body. That was the start of the decline."
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"Sir Alf 5:46 Tue Dec 13 ""If any of our owners had intelligence or half a brain and didn't want to see a load of money wasted again wouldn't they have grilled the manager on his plan (strategy) and operational plan to implement the new style before they signed off 170 million on player recruitment. ??"" Very good point. But as I said on here a week or so ago. I've been going to West Ham regularly since late 80's and I have never, ever seen a transfer policy with any strategy or aligned to any playing style. When you talk about intelligence and brains I don't doubt our owners ability in that area when making a pound note. But when it comes to running a football club properly then that's where they fall off a cliff."
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"Sir Alf 5:49 Tue Dec 13 Spot on. The full backs are like wolves, they run all day. However, rather than them, I would say our priority is getting Morocco's manager."
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Shut up Keep Dreaming you miserable cսnt. You know fuck all about football. You make a proper cսnt of yourself every time you post anything.
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Btw I realise Scaloni is the Argie manager but it's tge Moroccan players at tge WC that are the ones that are affordable and high energy and just what West Ham need. Would love 2 or 3 of their lads to join Aguerd especially the full backs and that midfielder with the slap head
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"goose 11:37 Tue Dec 13 Scaloni as manager? Interesting. If he could bring a few of those high energy Moroccans with him it might be just what we need. I think the consensus is that nothing will change and it's just a case of putting off the inevitable. Even if he tried to play a possession game would he know how to implement it allied to the need for a rapid and effective press? I say ""he""ù I also include Nevin, Nolan, Warbarton and McKinley. But anyone know if any of these blokes have any experience of playing in or coaching teams that play that way? We know Moyes and Nolan don't. McKinley has worked with Moyes before so guess he hasn't. Just leaves Warbarton ? In short it's a classic case of ""you don't know what you're doing""ù. ? If any of our owners had intelligence or half a brain and didn't want to see a load of money wasted again wouldn't they have grilled the manager on his plan (strategy) and operational plan to implement the new style before they signed off 170 million on player recruitment. ?? Due dilligence is a useful thing to ensure you ain't being played by a bullshitter :-) I suspect they were just thrilled being in Europe again and hadn't noticed that league form had dropped off a cliff."
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"Sir Alf 10:10 Tue Dec 13 ""Just been reading an interview from Lanzini saying how Moyes wants to play a more possession based game"" Then he's failing by his own standards. Possession STATS last season and this one: 21/22 - 47.4% 22/23 - 45%"
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"In the same interview that Moyes said that managers live or die by their recruitment he also said, ""we don't want to sign a cheap player just to fill a space"", a week or two before he signed Emerson and Kehrer. To be fair, even though I don't rate them, the likes of them two and Cornet are decent enough squad players to have because of their versatility and experience. If Moyes is in big trouble it should be for how terrible he's done with the better quality signings made before and after he came. Unless he gets sacked soon it really looks like Scamacca and Paqueta will follow Vlasic, Haller and Anderson down the road of expensive flops let go at a massive loss."
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Kehrer is another defender who doesn't do the basics of defending well enough. We just wasted money on crap like him and Emerson who are squad fillers presumably on high wages. didnt Moyes say something managers live and die by their signings? if thats true then Moyes is in big trouble.
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"A load of crap about changing how we play, he's says it to just appease but he has no real intention of actually implementing it. A David Moyes side is never gonna be possession based side."
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"he's gotten worse but what player hasn't this season other than downes? he (and the coaching staff) makes every player worse, and it isn't a new thing. there's plenty of players that suddenly regain their ability once they're away from him"
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"I 100% agreed with that, Miike. Unfortunately, that's where we are, and under those circumstances, Kehrer is an accident waiting to happen every game."
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"eerie, wouldn't you agree that the only reason we're under pressure so much is that dour jock cսnt's philosophy of sitting deep and welcoming pressure? even the best defences would struggle under him. that first half against france was a carbon copy of most of our league games, sat deep and the front three getting very little help. they had their chance to change it weeks ago, and it's just delaying the inevitable"
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"Sir Alf, I'm pretty sure that you didn't read an interview from Lanzini saying any of that about Moyes. All he actually said was ""when we have the ball we will have more chances to win the game"". The rest of it was probably taken from that godawful hammers.news website where they like to read a lot into any quote, just for clickbait headlines. I don't think there's any evidence at all that Moyes is really trying to change things up."
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"Just been reading an interview from Lanzini saying how Moyes wants to play a more possession based game and recognised that teams cottoned on to our counter attacking, sit deep, keep the shape and 4-2-3-1 system. We'll talk is cheap as they say. I have thought ( dangerous ) that he may not have had much time with the players to change that much due to getting the transfers completed after the season started and then having the Thurs / Sunday schedule for the first few months of the season. But that's the generous view. The fact that he stubbornly picks the previous players and sticks with the same formation and system of play and tactics, plays so many out of position etc suggests he doesn't know how to make the changes, is too loyal to players that match to the honest, non technical grafters he has largely managed all his managerial career. His blueprint in other words. Simply put he cannot change, he doesn't know how to. Nothing wrong in that but do the right thing and resign gracefully and honestly. Most would applaud him for that but then I suppose 5 million bags a year is tough to let go of? If I see Soucek dropped or moved forward to where Downes is I might believe there is hope but won't hold me breath"
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"Playing in the French league for PSG, with all that talent in front of you dominating the ball every game where you're doing very little defending, is very, very different to West Ham in the Prem, with backs to the wall defending in every single game we play. Kehrer is a very good technical footballer, but his defensive nous is terrible, he's rash, and makes glaring errors at crucial times every single game, often leading to goals. We are in an absolute relegation dogfight, and we need more reliable players than him. If we were a free flowing attacking team, he'd fit in well, but we're entirely the opposite."
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Manuel you don't play as many games for PSG as kehrer did if you're utter shite . Their ruthless unlike the shysters who run us .these players are more than good enough to pull out of this .but we all know Moyes won't change formation. Which is causing the problems you cannot have a left back that cannot run . Yet Moyes sets the team up with the sole intention of protecting him what he's done to fornals is criminal.
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"british is best 3:30 Sun Dec 11 ''Were more than capable of getting results with Dawson and kehrer'' No we're not. Dawson is okay, but Kehrer is a walking fucking disaster. More than capable? Lol."
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I wouldn't put too much store in anything old Hugh pumps out . Were more than capable of getting results with Dawson and kehrer as long as Moyes doesn't fuck up the midfield in front of them . If waistcoat can make rice sit in front of the defence at all times . surely Moyes can demand he does the exact same for us .