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Moyes Out ( Released )
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Moyes Out ( Released )
"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"
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"Last 26 league games we've got 25 points, does anything else need to be said. Moyes out!"
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"There is a wider issue and Moyes is just a part of it. The rest of the Premier League has left us behind in terms of Youth Development, Training Facilities, Scouting, Analytics/Data driven approaches, Recruitment, Style of Play, Management Structures. We need someone to come in and sort all of that, just as Ashworth is doing at Newcastle. Should spare no cost to get this sorted and then go from there!"
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"An apathetic crowd today, only fired up be the penalty save. So that may well be a factor in their decision making. I don't think they're too worried about noise being made on places like here."
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"If the old adage of "" you're only as good as your last game "" applied , he would have been sacked ages ago . Agree with Charoo , his arrogance is off the charts . We owe him nothing , nobody else came in for him after we didn't keep him on first time . We have made him relevant again . "" Win is what I do "" Well , you don't do nearly enough . Good riddance ."
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Does anyone really think we are going to get rid of Moyes? They did get rid of Pellegrini which was a bit of a shock given their form at the time so some hope but im not so sure they will do likwise again in a hurry. Happy to be wrong.
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"Twoleftfeet, listen Any manager would get the same treatment if they kept being a duck, so yes. I'm not depressed at all. Im always positive until proved wrong. Was even positive before today's match. I don't love a bit of told you so more than anyone else on here. And again, keep posting crap as it suits you I've never seen a post from you speaking about football. It's all cunting off others. Just like your fat pal Leonard Hatred. Pair of pre 70's supporters who can't get your head out of your arses"
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"We look like the worst team in the league to be frank & in his BBC interview MOYES reckons we played well today. Plenty of money, plenty of time but its abysmal. Game over Should be sacked tonight Hang on a couple of days & might have POTTER on the candidate list. No win in 5 & 3 successive Premier league defeats."
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"Won't get a much better time in the middle of a season than now with the word cup break. Seriously doubt Sullivan will change it now - but depends on the balance of power at the club. I think it's time to go - we are getting worse, not better."
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"I've maintained my position on upgrading the Manager for some time but not sacking him for sackings sake. My position has changed. Time to go regardless, his arrogance, inability to adapt, lack of ideas and the fact he can't even get the team fit means he should be sacked tonight."
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"There are no excuses any more. We've spent big. The manager has had plenty of time. It's now very much ""his""ù squad. Key players know the ""system""ù (such that it is). We've got England's most dominant DM. New players have been here for a few months now (though I accept some might need more time). Moyes and his team are out of excuses and talk. We're waiting for performances. They aren't coming."
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We've been shit for well over a year. The new draught of players were supposed to upgrade and improve. It wasn't a fucking rebuilding project. Scamacca and Paqueta are decent proven players. Moyes and his system makes them and the whole team look and play shit. He's out of his depth now and needs to be fucked off and replaced with someone who can string an attacking side together and get a tune out of what we all believed were some excellent signings. OVERDRAWN for the last 12 months Dave. Cheerio.
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""" we saw this coming a year ago, we told you this would happen "" You are an utter cսnt keep dreaming. I guarantee a new manager would get exactly the same treatment from you, you love a bit of I told you so. If you spent as much time supporting the club as you do slagging it off you might feel a lot less depressed."
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"Paqueta might feel HE's been had? Early days for him, of course. And I hope a change of manager galvanises him. But, right now, under Moyes, it looks like we've been had for £50m. He's closer to a dud than a star right now. I take the point that Moyes' painful negativity and lack of adventure cannot help Paqueta. But it would be nice to see something more from him soon. At that price, at some point, you've got to deliver."
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"marty feldman 9:03 One can but wish, but I doubt the sycophantic alchy even knows his own name or address 80% of the time."
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"I also think the loss if Pearce and Irvine has been largely catastrophic for Moyes. Irvine was the tactical brain behind most attacking aspects, and Pearce as a driving force and leader of men is almost impossible not to respect. Losing those two, and gaining McKinlay (who when I've heard talk offers nothing insightful) and Warburton (couldn't be less Stuart Pearce) has been body blows to us in my opinion. Nolan is basically class clown. Warburton is a manager biding his time, with no playing career to back up his opinions, and a managerial career at the age of about 60 that no serious player will respect."
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"IMO he will have lost half the dressing room by now. Players will be starting to either think of exit strategies, or that their lot might be better under the next guy. Guys like Paqueta and Scamacca will be feeling like they've been had. When it gets to that place, there is no coming back. There will be too many of the squad that don't care enough about the club or the manager to want to dig in. With that many new players in in one go, you have no built in credibility with them...you have to earn it and quick, and he hasn't. He's dead man walking. The board won't understand this side of things or at least won't want to. So they'll dilly dally, giving him until Jan with the World Cup period to ""work on it"", but it won't help. Agents will be in players ears working against the club, and nothing about the club will have them telling them to shut up. Fundamentally he's engineered a mess, he's doing what any manager would do and calling for time. But this is when you need you board to stand up and put him out of his misery instead of waiting for the true death spiral. Leadership is about spotting and making the right call early...by the time it's agreed on universally it's too late. I have no faith in our board to do that...but this decline started this time last year. They're either blind, stupid or both. He's already had 12 months to find a way to sort it out and hasn't. Moyes out."
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"A few of us here saw this coming a year ago if not more. He did well by establishing togetherness, workmanship and discipline. But he never knew his best team, he was plain lucky by having a team working well sitting deep and counterattack most teams. This was and still oss his only plan. With the set of players available we could and should be so much better in all aspects of the game. Enough is enough. Managers like Allardyce, Dyche, Bruce, Pulis and Moyes are just as valuable as dinosaurs. Big mouthed brainless fools Can't wait for us to sign a younger manager with abilities to make us look fun, tough, smart and better. Upwards"
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"Yup. It feels like time is up after today. Leicester were shit. We could and should have taken this by the scruff of the neck but again we were so passive without the ball and slow as molasses with it. It's broken and it needs fixing. Surely that was it, or at the most he gets three games after the WC to turn it around."
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Wonder what World Cup Managers are going to be sacked /dismissed in December that we might consider