Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[daveyg]

"Sir Alf It wasn't hard to see in the early Jan where Moyes needed to change, add a youngster to the game. From the evidence of the Zagreb game there were several who could have stepped up Ashby,Alese,Oko Flex and Longelo to give the current players a break .Add a couple of signings and he could change tactics and not fold in the cup games but No he couldn't admit or adapt. He's gone past his sell buy date. Look where we are now in the league and the PL form of 2022."

[Lee Trundle]

"I thought the media might have jumped on Moyes's back had we not won at Bournemouth. I thought that win might have bought him some time with his media mates, but it's good the spotlight is on him and his failures are being highlighted. A week ago, none of my mates believed me how shit his record was against the bigger teams, and I couldn't be arsed to produce a load of proof for them. Now it's in the media, they believe it."

[Takashi Miike]

"alf, even switching the big man with downes and letting tomas stay up the field would be an improvement, though the answer for me at the moment without paqueta is fornals in that advanced role. that's an area we should be targeting for more depth. I've no doubt there's some kids in the younger age teams that could do the job but he rarely trusts non defenders from those younger teams"

[BRANDED]

"My fear is that Moyes is, consciously or subconsciously, doing what is required to keep his job. As outright offensive play is not part of his natural thinking this play is the obvious choice for him."

[Sir Alf]

I forgot that Mike. Only Aguerd missing. Shame the Romanians were not more of a test but yes I recall Rice and Downes running the midfield. This latest article jumping on the band wagon too: https://www.hammers.news/columnist/david-moyes-is-massively-contradicting-himself-with-west-ham-midfielder-tomas-soucek/

[Takashi Miike]

"""Possibly we just don't know because Downes alongside Rice, Aguerd as CB, Emerson for Cresswell and Paqueta in the midfield all at same time has yet to be tried."" we have seen it against FCSB, Downes was man of the match"

[marty feldman]

Until Moyes wakes the fuck up . And drops soucek and cresswell nothing will change. It's total incompetence on a scale I haven't seen since roeders 2nd season.

[Sir Alf]

"To play on the front foot, aside from tactics and intent, we will need better technical footballers than Soucek, Coufal and perhaps even Johnson and younger, quicker players than Cresswell, Soucek again and even Ballon Dawson as much as we appreciate the sterling job he has done. Do we already have the players to play that way? Possibly we just don't know because Downes alongside Rice, Aguerd as CB, Emerson for Cresswell and Paqueta in the midfield all at same time has yet to be tried. I suspect we may still be a midfielder, forward and wing back light to really play on the proverbial front foot from the first minute but maybe not? But will we ever find out if Moyes never sets us up to play by keeping the ball, pressing high and including all these blokes he bought in the team? I got the feeling he will leave the club never having tried"

[Any Old Iron]

"Despite all his good work in clearing up Pellegrinis' mess Moyes has blown it in 2022. What we've been watching this year is relegation form and corresponding results. The majority of games have been dull and if I'm honest I haven't enjoyed a single one of them this season. The worst part for me is that I no longer look forward to our games. There's just no ambition from Moyes and zero entertainment on the pitch. Even when we occassionaly win it's not exactly a convincing performance. After investing such huge sums on new players I expected improvement, but instead he seems to be taking us backwards. Yes, he built up a lot of credit during the previous 2 years when we seemed to heading in the right direction but that is now history and this year has been abject. I was one of the few who wanted Moyes to stay after his first stint and was happy to see him return but now I've lost faith. What bothers me is his complete lack of flexibility. Time and time again the team are sent out to stifle the opposition, no matter who they are. We never see West Ham start on the front foot and dominate a game any more. And in most games we only show our attacking capability when we're behind. We can all see this yet Moyes continues to repeat the same mistakes, and for this reason I'm close to calling for his head. If he can't get the team to click and get wins against Palace and Leicester then I'll have had enough of him."

[Dutch Iron]

"What I find worrying is that a lot of our supporters seem to have the same lack of ambition as Moyes' has. We are not poor little West Ham anymore. We are are a big club with an enormous fanbase that can attract big players. I feel a lot of our fans still see us as a lower midtable PL club. In other words if DM keeps us out of relegation he's done a good job. Even now we have a squad of players that is capable of so much more. We will never take the next step as a club if DM is the one in charge of this transistion. With his constant cautious approach he is making the players (unconsciously) believe that we need be afraid of every opponent we play. In stead of go out and believe in our own qualities and make the opponent worry about how to deal with us. I dont see almost any player playing with freedom and used to his strengths (Fornals, Downes). I see players that DM is afraid of dropping (Soucek, Cresswell) because he cannot change his way of thinking. I dont mean this bad but in this way he looks somewhat autistic to me. When Fornals played as a 10 yesterday for only 15 minutes he looked a totally different player then we've seen all year. He looked free and happy. In a way I cannot even blame Moyes, thats just how he does his job. In all the years following WH I've seen some rubbish teams and performances. It was mostly easier to accept because we lacked the quality. Now its frustrating knowing we have so much quality and potential of becoming a real force. Its not about Moyes in or out its about taking West Ham forward. At the moment its making my life less enjoyable..."

[New Jersey]

Zico - l bet you can remember Platt putting in that volley against Belguim right at the end of injury time? What s piece of skill!

[Texas Iron]

"Moyes has gone backwards""¶ Except in low quality Europa""¶ We need better to progress""¶ Epitaph""¶ Spent 150million""¶got worse""¶"

[Meerkat]

"Sir Alf 5.08 Good post , Moyes can use injuries to new signings as an excuse not to change things . Being West Ham it's unlikely all new signings will be fit and avail at the same time . It will be post WC at this stage if at all . If with luck they are then Moyes has a dilemma. I think unfortunately he will still pick too many of the old guard and we will go on in the same fashion . It's a travesty when you consider this is Rice's last season with us ."

[zico]

"New Jersey 6:11 Mon Oct 31 Robson got injured again in 90 hence bringing Wright in as you said. As much as I loved 1990 we sometimes forget that we were crap against Ireland and Egypt, decent against the Dutch, got outplayed and lucky against Belgium, fortunate against Cameroon and played really well against the Germans. So two good performances in 6 games!"

[New Jersey]

"Sir Alf - l think that was Mexico 86, Wilkins fortunately got sent off and Robson got injured, so he was forced to change. At Italia the players got him to change his defensive system and brought Mark Wright ( l think) in."

[Full Claret Jacket]

Moyes recent comments make me think he has less belief in this team than most other people. He talks like we should think of ourselves as a team aiming to avoid relegation. Maybe that is why he pursues safety first negative tactics rather than a more expansive style our attack minded players could thrive on. We will never integrate and see the best of good players if all we do is ugly stuff to stop other teams.

[marty feldman]

Palace are playing poorly away from home ATM . If we can't beat them Moyes needs to go . They made Everton look like prime Barcelona last weekend .

[Sir Alf]

"If we ever get Aguerd, Paqueta and Cornet fit at the same time, it might be time to do the unthinkable and hope for a knock to Soucek and Cresswell ? Moyes might then have no choice but to play Downes, Rice and Paqueta in midfield with Cornet wide. He could also switch Bowen for Antonio some games when ( as has been the case a lot this season ) Bowen is struggling. I remember Bobby Robson's famous Italia 90 side only hitting form in the group stages when he was forced due to injury to play Lineker and Beardsley. Similar situation when Pardew, due to injuries, gave a chance to Elliott Ward alongside Anton as the CBs and we went on a run that got us in the play off places just and then we won the final. Bizarre to say Moyes the luck of a couple of injuries to his ""old guard"" to force him to change?"

[Side of Ham]

Dawson was our set piece threat....enough of one to even cause havoc for others to get on the end of the corner.

[Sir Alf]

"I'm like many, after 12 months of narrow losses to any of the rich clubs and even not so rich ones, questioning how long the process of transition that Moyes talked about before the season is going to take? Has it even started? I guess some signs are there. But he has the ""Innovators Dilemma"" ( ok innovator circa 1992). He has done well with clubs on limited resources Everton and us until the last window, using a tactical set up and system based on sitting deep, defending well in a disciplined shape but looking to hit teams on the break with a fast counter using a diagonal ball or one over the top for big battering ram Antonio to run on to and not forgetting a large number of goals from set pieces. Those games we used to win against the rich teams and others were entertaining because we won but often had long spells where we were playing as we do now. But when you win them you forget the bad stuff. Once we got sussed by the opposition we needed a new way to play. This required different players and systems. But Moyes, had to wait until this summer to get a very decent budget to get these players. But now we wait... In his defence, we don't seem to have got them all fit at once yet and especially Aguerd. But I think he has this ""dilemma"" and he and Nevin ( he primary tactical coach who Southgate employs which is no surprise as its defensive) are reluctant to take the risks and still revert to the old approach. Perhaps its the unavailability of Paqueta and Aguerd and Cornet? But if Soucek is accommodated by moving DOwnes into a position he has no clue how to play, you start to wonder? When all the new players are available I think he will still turn to Soucek and the aging Cresswell. The choice of Soucek is the indicator for me that Moyes and co will not change. He is not a ball playing midfielder, he struggles with accurate passing by Premier League standards. A lovely fella, real team man but not suited to playing the little one twos with Rice and others to beat the press of the opposition. Its been highlighted by Jamie Redknapp and Gary Neville too now. If they are seeing it then its becoming obvious to everyone. We will know post WC. Moyes will, barring some catastrophic results next couple of games, still be here. But he will hopefully ( touches rabbit foot, lucky clover ) have Aguerd, Paqueta, Cornet at his disposal along with Emerson. If I see Soucek, Cresswell in the starting 11 every Premiership game, it can only be concluded he cannot change. Old dog, new tricks etc."

[Swiss.]

Palace are a peer team now so yes it's a must win. I actually think we will lose and Moyes needs to go.

[Texas Iron]

"Moyes interview seemed happy wig result""¶ F'ing Idiot""¶"

[Texas Iron]

"Must win Palace""¶ Not easy""¶"

[Manuel]

I think the positive we can take from it is that we are being negative away and only losing narrowly. With a more progressive coach we can see we could be so much better.

[Russ of the BML]

Meerkat 3:43 Mon Oct 31 Apparently. Although some bloke on Facebook said to me that he remembers the good old days of going away from home and going for the win and getting beat 5-1 or 4-2. I said he was a fucking pillock. We've got 1 point from our last 4 away games and thats with a negative approach. So what's the fucking difference.